Wouldn't it be 0-6?

Wicked Good Ag said:

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you dont think Oregon looks good in this game?

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Their defense didn't look particularly good in the first round, and they had a ton of miscues in the first half. Yes, they pulled it together in the second half. But I think they get beaten easily next round.

Was there a thesis statement in that rant?

This current game isn't the cutest of the first time bye, but the softness of the XII. But but but the XII beat LSU and BYU win their game! Well against LSU they're in shambles with players opting out, in the portal, and a coaching change. How many opt outs did UH have? BYU was the XII#2 and how many opt outs?

Time to play the playoffs at home, win home field based on seed. Play the championship at a rotating venue like the Superbowl.

Move the bowls to week zero

First step, they need to no longer allow any Big12 teams into the top 4. Only possible exception is if they schedule and beat 2+ legit OOC opponents to make up for not playing a real regular season. Otherwise, they can get into the playoffs, but should never get a top seeding regardless of record. Treat them like James Madison and the other scrubs who compete for the last spot.

zephyr88 said:

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#2 with the week 1 bye goes down without much of a fight.

#4 with the week 1 bye goes down and got shut dafuq out.

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#2 was #1 all season because they (like everyone else) played fairly weak schedules and lived on their own coattails all season.

#4 also played no one of consequence until today.

So is it bye week curse? Or is tOSU just not that good this year. They're good, I'm not doubting that. We're they THAT good though?

Miami squeaked in. Was the ACC better than we have then credit for?

Maybe tech just sucks

Put the 16 best against each other. Winner crowned champion.

Second tournament (NIT) of the next 16.

No bowls. If you are not in the top 32…who cares…try again next year.

They'll probably expand to 33 teams, guarantee each conference champion automatic bids, and give the highest ranked Div III team a first round home game.

He Who Shall Be Unnamed said:

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Looks like first round byes are going to go 0-5 (edit: 0-6) in the expanded playoff era. And the day is young. Additionally, the Big 12 will be held to a single win since the beginning of the CFP, if I recall. Add this to the lopsided games against JMU and Tulane, and the fact that there are easily 20 teams that would have given Oregon (who really doesn't look very good either) or Ole Miss a better game in those two first round games. There is no way one could argue that the top 12 teams in the nation made it to the CFP this year.

It's time to put to rest the notion that there are 4 conferences, and that conference champions deserve automatic bids. There aren't four conferences, despite what the Big and SEC haters will say in response to the non-CFP bowl records (those bowls are meaningless - just look at how many potential NFL draft picks opt out when their teams play in one). If you want to play in the CFP after a weak conference schedule, schedule some real out-of-conference games.

Rant over, I doubt anything will change.

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The majority of playoff games and NC games have been blowouts. This is nothing new

Pretty sure Big 12 has more than one playoff win in the CFP era.

Yes, they will figure out how to change it before next year.

AustinAg2K said:

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They'll probably expand to 33 teams, guarantee each conference champion automatic bids, and give the highest ranked Div III team a first round home game.

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So theyre going to make it worse and nearly unwatchable for most of December and January

25Lighters said:

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Tech had a very easy schedule. The best teams they played were Utah and BYU, and they out talent them across the board.

When they played an elite team they got exposed.

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I'm not certain I'd call Oregon "elite". I think Miami, Georgia, Alabama, OSU would and Indiana did beat them. I wasn't 100% sure that Oregon would beat Tech but i felt like they would. Neither should've been ranked as high as they were nor given the absolute greased skids they got through the CFP. I feel we would have beat either team plus JMU (Tulane too for that matter). We should've/could've beat Miami.

northeastag said:

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Pretty sure Big 12 has more than one playoff win in the CFP era.

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They do. They can get those wins outside of being the top 4 to prove that they belong. They should not be given the benefit of the doubt by default. If they can overcome what everyone else has to deal with, then it can be reevaluated at that point. Same goes for notre dame. No more default top spots to unproven teams. SOS should matter, not how well you did against teams in a weak conference, or in an intentionally weak schedule.

Why would they change anything? The amount of engagement they generated with all this is far beyond what it would be if they just did what was logical

Expand to 16. Auto bids for every single conference. Auto bid for Notre Dame regardless of record. Boom. Fixed!

Kenneth_2003 said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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They'll probably expand to 33 teams, guarantee each conference champion automatic bids, and give the highest ranked Div III team a first round home game.

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So theyre going to make it worse and nearly unwatchable for most of December and January

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Need to expand to 16 and give top 8 home games. That would eliminate the big layoff and reward top 4 with a home game. 2nd round at home too.

At this point CFP games >>>>>>> "bowl" games. These bowl games with teams that didn't make CFP are basically the equivalent of watching NFL preseason games.

Have a separate playoff for group of 5 with the lesser bowl games (pop tart, cheez it, etc). Then those games would actually mean something and I think more people would watch even if not big brand schools. Give those teams something to play for. Rotate one bigger bowl (Sugar, Orange, etc) for the G5 national championship.

Will be a 16 team playoff, with zero byes. SEC schedules (9-games now) are going to produce a lot of 3-loss teams who would be left out of the playoff otherwise.

He Who Shall Be Unnamed said:

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Looks like first round byes are going to go 0-5 (edit: 0-6) in the expanded playoff era. And the day is young. Additionally, the Big 12 will be held to a single win since the beginning of the CFP, if I recall. Add this to the lopsided games against JMU and Tulane, and the fact that there are easily 20 teams that would have given Oregon (who really doesn't look very good either) or Ole Miss a better game in those two first round games. There is no way one could argue that the top 12 teams in the nation made it to the CFP this year.

It's time to put to rest the notion that there are 4 conferences, and that conference champions deserve automatic bids. There aren't four conferences, despite what the Big and SEC haters will say in response to the non-CFP bowl records (those bowls are meaningless - just look at how many potential NFL draft picks opt out when their teams play in one). If you want to play in the CFP after a weak conference schedule, schedule some real out-of-conference games.

Rant over, I doubt anything will change.

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System was designed to give one of the non-P4 teams a shot, but the ACC f'd up and couldn't put forth a worthy champion so this year 2 got in. There may be a non P4 team once a decade or less that really deserves a shot, but allowing one in every year is over compensating.

Ag1188 said:

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Will be a 16 team playoff, with zero byes. SEC schedules (9-games now) are going to produce a lot of 3-loss teams who would be left out of the playoff otherwise.

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The 3 OOC games should be games scheduled against a team from each of the other P4 conferences or Notre Dame.

Stop playing G5 and FCS schools in the regular season, and they should not be part of the postseason.

Wicked Good Ag said:

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you dont think Oregon looks good in this game?

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No. No they dont.

The goal is to get the true champion. Is that not going to happen this year?!

Yes, it will. It works.

Logos Stick said:

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The goal is to get the true champion. Is that not going to happen this year?!

Yes, it will. It works.

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Could let 2 more G5 teams in and that would also work. Doesn't mean it's the best system

16 team playoff.
Top 16
No byes
No AQs
First 2 rounds on campus
Higher seed is the home team
FF and NC should be at one location and rotate locations yearly.

Hi, Im Brett said:

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Logos Stick said:

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The goal is to get the true champion. Is that not going to happen this year?!

Yes, it will. It works.

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Could let 2 more G5 teams in and that would also work. Doesn't mean it's the best system

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OP is *****ing about all kinds of stuff, far beyond the G5. There will always be flaws. Miami might win the whole thing and they didn't win one of the three conference championships that the OP thinks is legit.

Logos Stick said:

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The goal is to get the true champion. Is that not going to happen this year?!

Yes, it will. It works.

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Indiana is the only team I will be happy for if they win the NC.

The rest can pound sand and choke on their egos.

Logos Stick said:

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The goal is to get the true champion. Is that not going to happen this year?!

Yes, it will. It works.

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It works to get to the eventual goal, but there is a lot of collateral damage that the current system produces both in the regular season and in the post season.

With regards to regular season play, as others have stated, there is no reason for a Big 12 team to schedule difficult OOC games. Look at what Tech did this year, and what they have on their plate for next year. As long as there are guaranteed spots for conference champions, we will see more of the same. Win in a soft conference, maybe even get a bye, hope you get lucky and catch an opposing team on a bad day. With the way that traditional regional conferences have been carved up, some of the OOC games would have served to provide interesting traditional rivalry games between teams now in different conferences, or served to provide as a measuring stick between different conferences, etc. Instead, we get scheduled wins because weaker conference teams want to run the table and teams from stronger conferences realize that they aren't playing for one of 12 spots, they are playing for one of 10 or fewer spots.

With regards to post season, the CFP has absolutely destroyed the non-CFP bowl landscape. We are not only seeing the best players skipping their bowl games, we are seeing entire teams opting out. At least if you have the top 12 teams in, rather than DEI'ing it as they are doing, you should have one or two more competitive teams playing in competitive games.

He Who Shall Be Unnamed said:

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Looks like first round byes are going to go 0-5 (edit: 0-6) in the expanded playoff era. And the day is young. Additionally, the Big 12 will be held to a single win since the beginning of the CFP, if I recall. Add this to the lopsided games against JMU and Tulane, and the fact that there are easily 20 teams that would have given Oregon (who really doesn't look very good either) or Ole Miss a better game in those two first round games. There is no way one could argue that the top 12 teams in the nation made it to the CFP this year.

It's time to put to rest the notion that there are 4 conferences, and that conference champions deserve automatic bids. There aren't four conferences, despite what the Big and SEC haters will say in response to the non-CFP bowl records (those bowls are meaningless - just look at how many potential NFL draft picks opt out when their teams play in one). If you want to play in the CFP after a weak conference schedule, schedule some real out-of-conference games.

Rant over, I doubt anything will change.

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None of it is a debacle. If they had 16 or 24 teams it would be fine.

rootube said:

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He Who Shall Be Unnamed said:

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Looks like first round byes are going to go 0-5 (edit: 0-6) in the expanded playoff era. And the day is young. Additionally, the Big 12 will be held to a single win since the beginning of the CFP, if I recall. Add this to the lopsided games against JMU and Tulane, and the fact that there are easily 20 teams that would have given Oregon (who really doesn't look very good either) or Ole Miss a better game in those two first round games. There is no way one could argue that the top 12 teams in the nation made it to the CFP this year.

It's time to put to rest the notion that there are 4 conferences, and that conference champions deserve automatic bids. There aren't four conferences, despite what the Big and SEC haters will say in response to the non-CFP bowl records (those bowls are meaningless - just look at how many potential NFL draft picks opt out when their teams play in one). If you want to play in the CFP after a weak conference schedule, schedule some real out-of-conference games.

Rant over, I doubt anything will change.

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None of it is a debacle. If they had 16 or 24 teams it would be fine.

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Way too many teams. All that does is add more teams that don't belong.