Jarrin Jay said:

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47653160/big-ten-sec-deadlocked-college-football-playoff-format


The B1G is crazy, 24 teams?!?!?!!!! That is way too many. You would have 8-4 teams in the CFP field. At 16 you will have some 10-2 and a small amount of quality 9-3 teams.

24 team model calls to eliminate the conf. champ games. So with these super sized conferences the champion will be determined by these overly complicated and ridiculous tie-breaker rules?

Personally I think it should stay at 12 with no auto qualifiers at all and based ONLY on the regular season with more emphasis put on best wins and worst losses for teams with same records.

I get the argument for 16 even if it's too many, but 24 is way too much, so basically if you are ranked you are in the CFP, insane.

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Why is 16 too many? Similarly, if 24 disposes of the eye tests, would you favor it?

Big not only wants 24 but a giant pile of AQs and a lot of bad matchups, kinda like the Big10s regular season



I think 16 is the best, no byes but 12 beats 24 and a pile of AQs

You should have to play every team in your conference every year. Otherwise, you have too many teams in your conference.

You need enough teams so that bowl games are no longer required. 24 would be good.

Top 4 conference champions. Done

Either 16 or 32 - no byes, no home games ( use smaller bowls) sun bowl, pop tarts, gator bowl, etc - no automatic qualifiers, keep conference championships because little guy could still pull an upset but no automatic for conference winners as this puts more weight on season victories instead of one game.

one safe place said:

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You should have to play every team in your conference every year. Otherwise, you have too many teams in your conference.

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Agree x 1000!!! Alas those days are long gone of the SWC, Big 8, etc. at least when the conferences were 12 teams you played the majority of the conference.

JebediahOhio said:

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AGREE. We should not be having ANY conversations about 3 loss teams getting in. We should even be iffy on 2 loss teams. The national champion should be whoever has proven themselves the MOST throughout the WHOLE season, not just whoever gets hot at the end. If you want to see that, watch any other sport.

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Well the two loss team who many didn't think was deserving is playing for the title. So…

We have a system where conferences almost NEVER play one another during the regular season and we want to limit the playoffs and let a committee decide who is best based on nothing. That is why no other sport would be dumb enough to replicate this system. Let the conferences play one another in a playoff and we can decide on the field. It's bizarre that people are against this in America.

Because they got hot at the end of the season. There are probably teams who weren't in the playoff who could have had a similar run, but it doesn't mean they should be in.

one safe place said:

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You should have to play every team in your conference every year. Otherwise, you have too many teams in your conference.

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Signed

An Independent

JebediahOhio said:

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AGREE. We should not be having ANY conversations about 3 loss teams getting in. We should even be iffy on 2 loss teams. The national champion should be whoever has proven themselves the MOST throughout the WHOLE season, not just whoever gets hot at the end. If you want to see that, watch any other sport.

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Weekly improvement thru hard work, sweat and blood is the point of sports. Recognizing the end result and work that went into it is what playoffs are for


If you want the best over the average of the season stop watching when a conference champ is crowned

Not the worst idea
Getting rid of CCG is good
Having 2 rounds on campus is also good
Having the quarterfinals on new years at traditional bowl sites also good

The current format might discourage playing good OOC games In the future A&M might schedule NC State instead of Miami

If ND plays Purdue instead of Miami they are in the playoffs at 11-1
I'd rather have a few 3 loss teams that played challenging schedules instead of 10-2 teams playing intentionally weak schedules

SunrayAg said:

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12 is already too many. Should be no more than 8.

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Really? Don't look now, but the 12th team to get into the 12 team playoff is playing for the national championship tomorrow night.

greg.w.h said:

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Jarrin Jay said:

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47653160/big-ten-sec-deadlocked-college-football-playoff-format


The B1G is crazy, 24 teams?!?!?!!!! That is way too many. You would have 8-4 teams in the CFP field. At 16 you will have some 10-2 and a small amount of quality 9-3 teams.

24 team model calls to eliminate the conf. champ games. So with these super sized conferences the champion will be determined by these overly complicated and ridiculous tie-breaker rules?

Personally I think it should stay at 12 with no auto qualifiers at all and based ONLY on the regular season with more emphasis put on best wins and worst losses for teams with same records.

I get the argument for 16 even if it's too many, but 24 is way too much, so basically if you are ranked you are in the CFP, insane.

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Why is 16 too many? Similarly, if 24 disposes of the eye tests, would you favor it?

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Exactly. I like 16. The bye isn't helping these teams anyways. Just watch, next year we'll be #13 and everyone will be screaming for 16.

JebediahOhio said:

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AGREE. We should not be having ANY conversations about 3 loss teams getting in. We should even be iffy on 2 loss teams. The national champion should be whoever has proven themselves the MOST throughout the WHOLE season, not just whoever gets hot at the end. If you want to see that, watch any other sport.

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What are you even talking about? 3 loss teams (outside of Bama losing the CCG) were excluded regardless of who they played or beat. With 16 teams ND, Vandy, and t.u. (3 top 14 wins) all get in and deserved it every bit as much as Bama. Bama was playing crap ball the last month. They certainly weren't hot.

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. I like 16. The bye isn't helping these teams anyways.

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The 16 team proposal includes byes

8 or 10 teams is enough. This isn't Basketball.
Please stomp out the idea of 16+ teams!

JebediahOhio said:

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Because they got hot at the end of the season. There are probably teams who weren't in the playoff who could have had a similar run, but it doesn't mean they should be in.

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That's the virtue of a playoff. The SEC and B10 both had a chance to knock them off and failed.

Keep it at 12 or 16 and give the G5 a separate championship with 12 or 16.

BMX Bandit said:

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The 16 team proposal includes byes

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How would that work?

16 is 2^4 so there should be no byes unless they really did something strange.

First round:
1 vs 16
2 vs 15
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8 vs 9

no byes

aggiedad7 said:

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JebediahOhio said:

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AGREE. We should not be having ANY conversations about 3 loss teams getting in. We should even be iffy on 2 loss teams. The national champion should be whoever has proven themselves the MOST throughout the WHOLE season, not just whoever gets hot at the end. If you want to see that, watch any other sport.

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What are you even talking about? 3 loss teams (outside of Bama losing the CCG) were excluded regardless of who they played or beat. With 16 teams ND, Vandy, and t.u. (3 top 14 wins) all get in and deserved it every bit as much as Bama. Bama was playing crap ball the last month. They certainly weren't hot.

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spoken like a sip. tu got ***** slapped by Georgia. Lost to Florida, and had two overtime wins against terrible teams. If 16 teams mean teams like tu make the cfg, its a damn good argument to keep it at 12.

What I'm getting at is that there were conversations about tu getting in. My philosophy for college football (I guess it might be in the minority) is that the national champion should be the team who is the best the entire season.

Even if you're hot at the end of the season, if you had a weak regular season, you should not make it. Ideally, in an eight team situation, Bama shouldn't even be in the playoff. Same goes for ND, Vandy, tu, and even Miami (may be an unpopular opinion, but even though they made the natty, they didn't have a good enough regular season to justify the playoffs).

What has always made college football special is the value in the regular season. If we put the top 16 teams in, we're making the regular season less valuable.

24 would just be a bunch of play in games--seems you could automatically qualify P4 championship teams.

Bring back the SWC?

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SunrayAg said:

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12 is already too many. Should be no more than 8.

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Really? Don't look now, but the 12th team to get into the 12 team playoff is playing for the national championship tomorrow night.

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Exactly, 12 teams is too big of a safety net for these uber talented teams. Possessing the ability to win a title doesn't necessarily determine deservingness. Any system that allows a team that lost multiple games in the ACC (in an all-time embarrassing league year) is a bad system.

Miami could have tricked off at least 2 more games and they would still be the same team capable of going on a playoff run, but they wouldn't have earned the opportunity.

Jarrin Jay said:

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47653160/big-ten-sec-deadlocked-college-football-playoff-format


The B1G is crazy, 24 teams?!?!?!!!! That is way too many. You would have 8-4 teams in the CFP field. At 16 you will have some 10-2 and a small amount of quality 9-3 teams.

24 team model calls to eliminate the conf. champ games. So with these super sized conferences the champion will be determined by these overly complicated and ridiculous tie-breaker rules?

Personally I think it should stay at 12 with no auto qualifiers at all and based ONLY on the regular season with more emphasis put on best wins and worst losses for teams with same records.

I get the argument for 16 even if it's too many, but 24 is way too much, so basically if you are ranked you are in the CFP, insane.

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Yep, THIS

The 16 team option would still have 5 autobids. 24 team option no autobids.

But 24 team option eliminates conference championship games.

It's all a question of if you want the national champion to be the best team over the course of the season of the bets team at the end of the season. Seems like every other sport crowns the latter. With free transfers now allowed amongst schools, having the latter would encourage good non-conference games (early season loss to good team no big deal) and time for new talent each year to gel.