I don't want to beat up on Reed, but his receivers made some great catches that helped his #'s.

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I would just look at touchdowns and interceptions vs. P-4 (and ND) opponents

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I would look at accurate balls or completions thrown by various distances. I would also examine down and distance. It's pretty easy to throw a short checkdown on 3rd and 25.

tk for tu juan said:

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Here are some passing stat splits for the people who just want to focus on one thing and ignore the special teams sucking donkey ****, the team's sack leader getting zero sacks in final three games, rushing defense gap misses, etc.

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All QBs up to NFL pro bowlers have similar drop offs in the red zone. This is why a running game matters. Once you have the extra defenders (back of end zone) and 11 defenders essentially within 20-30 yards, the QB running threat fades. The deep ball fades. The pass rush becomes more effective.

You are essentially left with timing plays and small window throws. This is not hard to understand the drop off.

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Crocker said:

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"Improvement can be made, but I've always felt when it comes to accuracy, you either have it or you don't"
- Sun Tzu

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Good feet placement can improve accuracy along with a good throwing motion. He seems to lack both and needs to really work on that this spring.

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Consistent accuracy cannot be taught at this point. He is what he is. Elko and staff need to leverage his strengths. He may desire to be a NFL pocket passer but that ain't happening. Reed can be very successful but he needs to recognize running opportunities more often and our OC needs to leverage those strengths more regularly. It ain't rocket science.

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nu awlins ag said:

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Crocker said:

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"Improvement can be made, but I've always felt when it comes to accuracy, you either have it or you don't"
- Sun Tzu

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Good feet placement can improve accuracy along with a good throwing motion. He seems to lack both and needs to really work on that this spring.

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Consistent accuracy cannot be taught at this point. He is what he is. Elko and staff need to leverage his strengths. He may desire to be a NFL pocket passer but that ain't happening. Reed can be very successful but he needs to recognize running opportunities more often and our OC needs to leverage those strengths more regularly. It ain't rocket science.

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Be careful as you'll be known as a Mike Leach Leech.

What were his stats when we ran for over 200 yards vs when we were under it? When we couldn't run the ball and he had to throw it he wasn't very good. If we run the ball more he is fine. Very few QBs can keep a high % when the other team knows you are throwing it.

It seems to me that completion% alone isn't a great stat to rate quarterbacks, since it doesn't account for the depth of the throw.

Does anyone have YPA or EPA stats for Reed?

I doubt the picture will change much, in his case, as there should be a consensus there's lots of room for improvement.

Reed, himself, would probably agree.

Accuracy, not to be confused with completion percentage is mostly innate imo.

Good pass pro, a running game that keeps you more in 3rd and short/medium than 3rd and long, WRs with a good catch radius like Horton and familiarity with the offenae earlier on can all help completion percentage though

jeepdriver54 said:

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I'm sorry, but 10 just doesn't have what it takes to be QB1 on a championship level team. The last 2 games made that very clear.

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2026 will define his career. Most of the last 10 national title winning QBs had 25-30+ career starts when they won the big one. I'm not saying a national title is the benchmark obviously, but in year 3 as the starter you'd expect him to reach his peak.

Regardless of how mad TexAgs is at Reed right now, he and the offense took a leap forward from 2024 to 2025. A similar sized jump could mean great things.

He absolutely played poorly when it mattered most, but I'm not all the way out yet.

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What were his stats when we ran for over 200 yards vs when we were under it? When we couldn't run the ball and he had to throw it he wasn't very good. If we run the ball more he is fine. Very few QBs can keep a high % when the other team knows you are throwing it.

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There's not really anything there with completion %.

Against MSST we had 299 yards rushing and he completed 56.5%. Against Texas we had 157 yards rushing and he completed 63.5%. Against Miami we had 89 yards rushing and he completed 64.%.

The biggest difference between Texas and Miami and every other game is in yards per attempt and yards per completion. Texas was 5.6 and Miami was 6.1 in YPA. The next lowest was 7.6 against Mizzou. Texas was 9 and Miami was 9.5 in YPC. The next lowest was Mizzou at 11.1.

We averaged 4.6 YPC against Texas for 157 yards and only 2.5 against Miami for 89 yards, and the 4.6 against Texas was pretty average for us. In contrast, our next worst passing game against Mizzou was our best running game of the year, averaging 6.2 YPC for 243 yards.

Texas and Miami could be considered heavy passing games. We passed for 48.5% against Texas and 52.7% against Miami. Comparatively, we passed guy 57.4% against SC, 47.8% against Arkansas, and 53.6% against ND. We also passed for almost 60% against UTSA, but that's UTSA. Our overall average was 44%.

All that said, in his more pedestrian games we had a truly great run game. The difference in the losses we had was not in completion percentage, but yards. I'm not breaking down individual passes at this point, but it seems like we were making more shorter throws. Against Texas, 157 yards on the ground and 4.6 YPC should be an adequate run game. 5.6 YPA passing is just pathetic, though.

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Reed has no touch on his passes

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Notre Dame would beg to differ.

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ElephantRider said:

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Reed has no touch on his passes

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Notre Dame would beg to differ.

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I'm not sure they would. He was 17/37 and averaged 9.7 YPA. That goes down to 7.6 YPA if you take out the 86 yard TD pass to Craver on the third drive that was about 75 yards after the catch and involved Craver spinning out of a couple of tackles as he somehow stayed inbounds running down the sideline. The throw was also a little bit behind Craver.

Yeah we won the game on a great 4th down pass, but let's not pretend like the rest of the game went well. He had some great passes, but also a lot of bad ones and a handful where he got a lot of help from the receivers.