wangus12 said:

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AustinAg2012 said:

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Mbappe's a *****.

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He did say he idolized Ronaldo

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That's all Neymar's influence. Or just his French teammates.

theNetSmith said:

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Unbelievable non-call when Giroud took Hazard down just outside the area.

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With the teams so evenly matched one of those no-calls could have been the difference.

Another near post goal on a corner

Just stick a m an on the post

MookieBlaylock said:

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Another near post goal on a corner

Just stick a m an on the post

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To be fair, the goal did end up going in about 3-4 feet inside the post off a flick header, basically through the goalkeepers arms. Not certain a man on the post reacts in time, especially when you are taught to stay connected to the post.

MookieBlaylock said:

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Another near post goal on a corner

Just stick a m an on the post

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It feels like we can copy and paste this post right?
Its like the managers arent watching other games.

Juan Solo said:

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USMNT U-23 went toe to toe with this French team, we deserve to be in the finals!

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There is hope for us for sure.

tysker said:

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MookieBlaylock said:

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Another near post goal on a corner

Just stick a m an on the post

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It feels like we can copy and paste this post right?
Its like the managers arent watching other games.

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They forget that these teams really don't play together very much and put too much on the keeper
To cover the entire goal

Just crap coaching on the backside

PatAg said:

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MookieBlaylock said:

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Another near post goal on a corner

Just stick a m an on the post

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To be fair, the goal did end up going in about 3-4 feet inside the post off a flick header, basically through the goalkeepers arms. Not certain a man on the post reacts in time, especially when you are taught to stay connected to the post.

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But that eliminates a space the keeper has to even think about

and it puts pressure on the players to actualize their man

Kaepernick was the not marking that guy and almost made the play but he is getting blamed

MookieBlaylock said:

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PatAg said:

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MookieBlaylock said:

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Another near post goal on a corner

Just stick a m an on the post

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To be fair, the goal did end up going in about 3-4 feet inside the post off a flick header, basically through the goalkeepers arms. Not certain a man on the post reacts in time, especially when you are taught to stay connected to the post.

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But that eliminates a space the keeper has to even think about

and it puts pressure on the players to actualize their man

Kaepernick was the not marking that guy and almost made the play but he is getting blamed

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Im with you, there is no reason to NOT have someone on the front post at least.

England bunkered against Colombia for the last 20 minutes and still conceded. Any team with a lead in the final quarter of the game does it.

randy828 said:

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AustinAg2012 said:

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France should beat either Croatia or England, but after that second half of BS they pulled, I hope they lose.

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Might want to wait and see what happens at the end of the England v Croatia game before making judgement...pretty much all teams do this when they are in the lead.

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I agree.

The real problem is that there's no repercussion for getting a yellow in the semis. So getting a yellow for time wasting is a smart move. If I were in charge, I'd make yellows from the semis carry over to the finals, but you'd have to get creative to make it work right... That is, if a player picked up a yellow in the semis, then if they pick up a yellow in the finals, they're 'suspended' for the rest if the game but not shown a red. So they'd have to waste a sub to get him out of there but wouldn't play a man down. I'm sure purists would scream about that, but I think it'd be a good balance between trying to let teams play at full strength in the finals, but also making the consequences for getting a yellow in the semis pretty severe.

Why change the system? If the refs would only add on the time wasted to stoppage time, this tactic will go away.

That would be dumb.

Better way is to accurately add on to stoppage time to minimize the benefit of time wasting.

akm91 said:

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Why change the system? If the refs would only add on the time wasted to stoppage time, this tactic will go away.

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I agree about the refs... But the issue I'm raising about yellows goes beyond time wasting. These games are so heated that I think you have to make yellows hurt. (Getting the refs to whip them out is a different issue entirely)

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/

"But the bigger issue to many fans is the time-wasting behavior that underestimating stoppage time rewards. There's a reason that players feign injuries when leading or dig the ball out of the net and run to midfield after scoring a goal while trailing. Their perception is that not enough stoppage time is added. So far this World Cup, their perception has proven to be reality."

The thing about making yellows worth that much is that it becomes way too subjective. Every ref runs matches different. Some let stuff play out more and keep the cards in the pocket while others pull the cards out right away. Unless you have the same ref, it becomes an advantage to one side or the other based on who is in the center.

Senegal was knocked out of the group stage by Japan based on their disciplinary record of yellow cards over the 3 games which was 6-4.

wangus12 said:

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The thing about making yellows worth that much is that it becomes way too subjective. Every ref runs matches different. Some let stuff play out more and keep the cards in the pocket while others pull the cards out right away. Unless you have the same ref, it becomes an advantage to one side or the other based on who is in the center.

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This is so very true at all levels of the game. I officiate competitive youth as well as adult league games, and I prefer to "let the players play" unless/until someone starts taking advantage of my leniency and gets out of hand. Other refs I know like to assert themselves from the start of play. A good ref should go relatively unnoticed. His/her function is to enforce the laws of the game and ensure the safety of the players. But refs are people, too, and anytime you introduce a human element into anything, objectivity will be subject to the individual.

Good points and I agree about in-game refereeing.

It just seems odd to me that yellows are huge deal until the semis and then it's no big deal. It's a distasteful middle ground to me. Either they're a big deal, or they're not.

I'd like to see every match get scrutinized by the same VAR team... Only have very limited interruptions during the match, but instead, focus more on key events after the match. It's a pipe dream perhaps, but then you could revoke yellows that weren't deserved and also issue yellows that needed to happen (I'd love to see retroactive yellows for flopping and time wasting). In short - try to have a retroactive standard for yellows/reds since they are a big deal and they ought to have implications for future matches IMO (but I agree subjectivity is a huge challenge).

No no no. I can't say no enough. You are talking about refereeing a game after the fact. Not only is that a recipe for a disaster it's actually expressly forbidden in the LOTG. "The decisions of the referee are final"