***** Official United States vs Mexico CONCACAF Nation's League Final Thread *****

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Did someone check passports of all the Mexican fans in attendance, or are you just assuming they are US citizens for some reason?

Mexican fans made Mexico look bad, not the US
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Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
It's typical Mexico. I'm wondering if anyone saw where Guardado or Herrera grabbed McKennie by the neck?
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Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

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I don't understand how the USSF let that go. Don't get me wrong, I loathe ESPN soccer production, USMNT should be available on all cable networks, not on some backwoods channel or behind a streaming paywall.


The game wasn't even listed in The Score app which is one of the better ones out there for covering all things soccer. Only reason I knew this was on was because I happened to be channel surfing and stumbled across it.
Casual USMNT fan?


Yes, I guess The Score folks are.
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Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
It's pure Latin America trash.

They push it and push it and push it and the referees allow it.

How many times is Mexico going to choke McKennie without a card?



Same referee.


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akm91 said:

Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
It's typical Mexico. I'm wondering if anyone saw where Guardado or Herrera grabbed McKennie by the neck?
Herrera with a strong move up the most-hated Mexico player list
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yukmonkey said:

The last piece for me is for major networks to carry it.

You can't inspire the young in's from CBSSN at 8:30PM on a Sunday and no advertising.
very true. the "worldwide leader in sports" will air corn hole contests or Finnish ice curling or hot dog eating and they have tons of Itialian and Spanish soccer behind their "plus" streaming paywall, but no one can watch the damn USMNT on cbssports or paramount+ or whatever.. it is infuriating, which is why I said we need more great international matches like that one last night to inspire the next gen. Most of them didn't see that. Ended after midnight eastern on a channel many don't get.
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Any word on a possible replay on TV of the match? In English not Spanish BTW
Peace for Ukraine!
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tysker said:

akm91 said:

Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
It's typical Mexico. I'm wondering if anyone saw where Guardado or Herrera grabbed McKennie by the neck?
Herrera with a strong move up the most-hated Mexico player list
He's 2nd behind Rafa Marquez for me. Herrera shouldn't have been on the field at that point as he should've been sent off for the bad foul against Weah.
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monarch said:

Any word on a possible replay on TV of the match? In English not Spanish BTW
One of the nice things about cutting the cord is able to watch almost all the soccer I want with Fubo.tv. I have it set so it will record all USMNT games so if I end up not able to watch, it is automatically recorded.
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Great recap!
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Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
Normally your ref, or a linemans, would prevent something like that.
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oh no said:

Great recap!

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PatAg said:

Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
Normally your ref, or a linemans, would prevent something like that.


What does it matter? Concacaf told the referees that therre would be 22 players at the end of the match. So if the players on a yellow were doing it, they're not getting a caution.
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oh no said:

Great recap!

He does a lot of really funny/dry videos of non-standard highlights as well. He had a nice review of Berhalter's sideline mechanics, and did one for the Honduras game reviewing concacaf'ing of both teams
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Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

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Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
Normally your ref, or a linemans, would prevent something like that.


What does it matter? Concacaf told the referees that therre would be 22 players at the end of the match. So if the players on a yellow were doing it, they're not getting a caution.
Yep, if a studs up challeng that connects doesn't get a 2nd yellow, nothing is.
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Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

PatAg said:

Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
Normally your ref, or a linemans, would prevent something like that.


What does it matter? Concacaf told the referees that therre would be 22 players at the end of the match. So if the players on a yellow were doing it, they're not getting a caution.
hell, studs up late tackle by a player on a yellow was not even cautioned.
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yukmonkey said:

The last piece for me is for major networks to carry it.

You can't inspire the young in's from CBSSN at 8:30PM on a Sunday and no advertising.
If one of these networks would get the rights for a whole qualifying cycle (I dont know how long they usually buy the rights for, I think they split up all the games. ie; world cup, wcq home,wcq away, gold cup, nations league, friendlies might all have different rights)

If that network committed to putting the games on their main broadcast channel, and then advertised it, I imagine they would get massive numbers towards the end of the cycle. The breakup of the various contests and who gets to show it probably ruins that. Also, the younger generations is more andmore likely to not have cable subs, and is more amenable to having an app. Which I imagine is harder to get a ratings # from, though I think they have developed a way to show those #s.

I think I remember reading an article recently that whoever bought the rights to WCQ this cycle got it for both home and away, which is great.
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that was absolutely fantastic....we still have a lot of work to do, particularly in the back line, but man it felt GOOD
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JJxvi said:

There's a lot of USA-Mexico in my feeds this morning, but most of the "fans are a disgrace" tweets are because some England fans booed when the teams take a knee before kickoff.


England fans don't like that nonsense good on them
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Still buzzing after last nights game.

Love the way Weston showed up last night. He's got that it factor. Loved him getting into it with the Mexican players at the end of the game. That's what this rivalry is all about.
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The ref was utter rubbish last night. In the first 15-20 mins you knew immediately that the Mexican players were going to get whatever they wanted. So many decisions not given that could have allowed the US to grow into the game. Not surprised because its concacaf but still disgraceful to watch it live.
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KCup17 said:

The ref was utter rubbish last night. In the first 15-20 mins you knew immediately that the Mexican players were going to get whatever they wanted. So many decisions not given that could have allowed the US to grow into the game. Not surprised because its concacaf but still disgraceful to watch it live.
Has absolutely nothing to do with the referee.

Concacaf wanted 22 at the end of the match and the Mexicans knew it. And played like it.

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PatAg said:

yukmonkey said:

The last piece for me is for major networks to carry it.

You can't inspire the young in's from CBSSN at 8:30PM on a Sunday and no advertising.

I think I remember reading an article recently that whoever bought the rights to WCQ this cycle got it for both home and away, which is great.

1. I don't think you really know how "young uns" consume tv at this point. Here is a hint, it isn't looking through the 4 major channels. They are watching highlights on You Tube or streaming via a search where the channel doesn't really matter. I am not saying I wouldn't prefer it to be on a major channel, but the current format has negligible impact on younger viewers.

2. I have bad news for you if you think the broadcast is going to be on one channel, before the match CBS Sports was indicating they had half the matches for this year's WCQ.
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Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

Marvin said:

Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
It's pure Latin America trash.

They push it and push it and push it and the referees allow it.

How many times is Mexico going to choke McKennie without a card?



Same referee.



No, it wasn't
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I didn't realize the origin of the camo jacket Deuce was wearing last night:

https://instagr.am/p/CPzLRE2NS1y

Also hilarious that he removed the MiB patch!
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Jason_Ag98 said:

I didn't realize the origin of the camo jacket Deuce was wearing last night:

https://instagr.am/p/CPzLRE2NS1y

Also hilarious that he removed the MiB patch!
The Cooligans are gonna need to step up!
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Aston94 said:

PatAg said:

yukmonkey said:

The last piece for me is for major networks to carry it.

You can't inspire the young in's from CBSSN at 8:30PM on a Sunday and no advertising.

I think I remember reading an article recently that whoever bought the rights to WCQ this cycle got it for both home and away, which is great.

1. I don't think you really know how "young uns" consume tv at this point. Here is a hint, it isn't looking through the 4 major channels. They are watching highlights on You Tube or streaming via a search where the channel doesn't really matter. I am not saying I wouldn't prefer it to be on a major channel, but the current format has negligible impact on younger viewers.

2. I have bad news for you if you think the broadcast is going to be on one channel, before the match CBS Sports was indicating they had half the matches for this year's WCQ.
CBS Sports has "half" of WCQ's because away matches are the property of the home team to sell media rights for.
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Texaggie7nine said:


I don't disagree with him. That was awful.
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Something that was brought to my attention this morning. Did you know that you cannot buy a USMNT with the player name/number on it right now? At least not through the ussoccer website.

Even if you attempt to personalize it with a certain player, their customer service will cancel the order. You can however get all of the women's team.

That might be the dumbest thing I've seen in awhile
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wangus12 said:

Something that was brought to my attention this morning. Did you know that you cannot buy a USMNT with the player name/number on it right now? At least not through the ussoccer website.

Even if you attempt to personalize it with a certain player, their customer service will cancel the order. You can however get all of the women's team.

That might be the dumbest thing I've seen in awhile
Why can you get woman's name but not men's?
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The US men's players do not have an image rights agreement with US Soccer and the women do.
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https://theathletic.com/1737141/2020/04/10/u-s-soccer-mens-players-association-in-arbitration-over-jersey-license-fees/
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I mean the ref has the control to enforce the law of the game. So even if it was concacaf's decision to have 22 players at the end of the game he missed multiple calls that wouldn't have sent players off.
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Also hilarious that he removed the MiB patch!

I'm guessing it was a TV obligation, since they likely dont advertise with CBS.

Pretty funny though.
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It might have been addressed already, but does anyone know what was said/done to stop the game for Discrimination Protocol?
 
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