***** USMNT vs Jamaica WCQ Game Thread (11/16) *****

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Top of the table, thats all that really matters.
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I had to go teach. Is it worth watching the second half?
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Not really, no...
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jeffk said:

I had to go teach. Is it worth watching the second half?
If you can have it on but dont feel like you need to pay attention.

Young team struggling on the road.

The hope has to be that the away games so far will have prepared us for away @ mexico, @ costa rica and @Canada to try to take some points from those games. Gaining experience does matter for young players.
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Kampfers said:

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PatAg said:

Calm down Clarence

I'll calm down when our team stops routinely turning in performances where they look like they've literally never played a competitive match as a team before.

We may have gotten a point, but todays performance was embarrassing. The point just papers over the cracks because people will act like we did what we had to, even though we were thoroughly outclassed and lucky to hold on.
Embarrassing? ****ting your pants is embarrassing. This is how sports go.


The US playing this poorly against Jamaica is the sporting equivalent of ****ting your pants

Take a look at the zoo after we lost to Arkansas. That's what we just did. It's not even the loss (or draw, in this case). It's the fact that other than for a few moments (Spiller's TD run/Weah's goal), we didn't even look like we belonged.
You're aware they also just beat Mexico, and looked excellent doing it, right? games dont exist in a vacuum
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Juan Solo said:

Don't matter, beat Mexico!


The problem for USA is very similar for Mexico. USA gets up for Mexico since that is a huge rivalry, and similarly Mexico tends to play down to their competition and only gets up for big time games against the traditional world powers. (Not so much against USA though.)

It's incredibly frustrating.

Hope we pull it out vs Canada tonight.
LOL, keep lying to yourself.
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PatAg said:

jeffk said:

I had to go teach. Is it worth watching the second half?
If you can have it on but dont feel like you need to pay attention.

Young team struggling on the road.

The hope has to be that the away games so far will have prepared us for away @ mexico, @ costa rica and @Canada to try to take some points from those games. Gaining experience does matter for young players.
I hope you like vuvuzelas...
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PatAg said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Juan Solo said:

Don't matter, beat Mexico!


The problem for USA is very similar for Mexico. USA gets up for Mexico since that is a huge rivalry, and similarly Mexico tends to play down to their competition and only gets up for big time games against the traditional world powers. (Not so much against USA though.)

It's incredibly frustrating.

Hope we pull it out vs Canada tonight.
LOL, keep lying to yourself.
Whatever helps you sleep better at night Brian...
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aggiephoenix02 said:

PatAg said:

jeffk said:

I had to go teach. Is it worth watching the second half?
If you can have it on but dont feel like you need to pay attention.

Young team struggling on the road.

The hope has to be that the away games so far will have prepared us for away @ mexico, @ costa rica and @Canada to try to take some points from those games. Gaining experience does matter for young players.
I hope you like vuvuzelas...
bull****, no one likes the vuvuzelas
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Lol. Panic!
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PatAg said:

You're aware they also just beat Mexico, and looked excellent doing it, right? games dont exist in a vacuum


Yes. I don't get upset if we get out-talented. I don't get upset if we lose but played our hearts out.

I do get upset when we lose every second ball. When we make lazy play after lazy play. When we aren't mentally engaged enough to close players down. Simple, fundamental things that should be non-negotiable. Effort. Mentality.

This isn't a first for this team either re: not being in a vacuum.

Qualification isn't assured. We have some tough games ahead. Yet people want to pat ourselves on the back and say mission accomplished because we managed to steal a point.

Very possible that we're looking at a do or die situation in the last round of fixtures and wishing we hadn't approached some of these games so lackadaisically. It's not the result. It's the way we got there.
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True, true...
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Kampfers said:

PatAg said:

You're aware they also just beat Mexico, and looked excellent doing it, right? games dont exist in a vacuum


Yes. I don't get upset if we get out-talented. I don't get upset if we lose but played our hearts out.

I do get upset when we lose every second ball. When we make lazy play after lazy play. When we aren't mentally engaged enough to close players down. Simple, fundamental things that should be non-negotiable. Effort. Mentality.

This isn't a first for this team either re: not being in a vacuum.

Qualification isn't assured. We have some tough games ahead. Yet people want to pat ourselves on the back and say mission accomplished because we managed to steal a point.

Very possible that we're looking at a do or die situation in the last round of fixtures and wishing we hadn't approached some of these games so lackadaisically. It's not the result. It's the way we got there.
Man. You sound like fun.
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Four points is fine from a qualification standpoint. Six would have been great and a draw coming off a big win is disappointing.

I'm more bummed about Busio not showing out than I am about the tie. Also, on rewatch I think Steffen misplayed the shot on the goal. He may not have saved it even if he gets his feet and hands sorted correctly but his technique was bad there.
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Uh, about what?
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BES, are you originally from Mexico or were you born in the US. If its the later, I will forever refer to this gif for you while on the soccer board

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45 seconds in and we have our first hockey check. And in true CONCACAF fashion nobody gets sent to the penalty box.
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This gets asked yearly. Born in Mexico.
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8 minutes in and #15 has committed 2 separate 2' minors.
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That looks miserable.
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Where will be game in January against Canada be played?
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Not announced yet.
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Seven Costanza said:

Not announced yet.


Sky dome?
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

This gets asked yearly. Born in Mexico.
So you're saying that it's your honest opinion that Mexico gets up for traditional international powers, but NOT the USA? That Mexico gets beat by the USA because they play down to the USA's level?

In your mind, this is the reality that we are all living in?
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Mexico plays its best the better the opponent. With the seeming exception of USA.

I believe Mexico has more talent and potential that it squanders.
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I believe Mexico as a team has an incredibly low emotional IQ. Their emotions dictate and control entirely too much of their game play. THAT is why they play like crap against perceived 'lower quality' teams once things aren't going their way, while the truth of the matter is that Mexico simply isn't a good team because of their hubris and uncontrollable emotions...
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I'm just going to say that this match going on in Edmonton is a master class in ****housery. Canada had learned to play CONCACAF style.
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I enjoyed playing in the cold, but what they're doing there in Canada tonight is just down right silly.

It's gotta be so dang uncomfortable...
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aggiebird02
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Just watch, Brian... Canada scored and took a 1-0 lead. The wheels will now fall off for Mexico, they'll start playing even more out of control with their attacks, and with their defending (which will be done with bad fouls). It plays out the same way every time Mexico gets down in a game against a Concacaf team...
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The end of the half was comical. There were like three fouls in a row against a Canadian player. The R blows the whistle after the third and the Canadian was like "thanks ref". And the Referee was "yeah sorry dude. That's not a foul. It's halftime. Let's go inside."
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2-0. There will be serious questions for Tata tonight.
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Damn.
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Mathguy64 said:

2-0. There will be serious questions for Tata tonight.
This made my day.
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Mathguy64 said:

2-0. There will be serious questions for Tata tonight.
LOL. **** Mexico. Today. And every day.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
 
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