Need Help Choosing A Team!

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My goal is to start supporting a new football club starting as soon as possible. The preference is to choose a club in the premier league and not in the other leagues (All though I will watch some non-epl games through the season.) How does one pick a team? What criteria should I use to pick one?

My only criteria is to pick one which effectively utilizes its resources (too jaded by my A&M sporting fandom) and is occasionally (hopefully soon regularly) challenging for world championships ALA NBA or MLB.
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Honestly, just start watching games, reading about team's backstories, following players you like watching, attending games in person (if you can), and learning about players/managers to see which team(s) you connect with best. It's fun when you have a much more organic connection with the club.
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Watch a bunch of games for a month and pick a club that you enjoy watching.

I'll add that it's worthwhile to read a little on the club's history as you make your decision. There might be something there that you identify with or appreciate.
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Your criteria means you're effectively choosing between the top 6 or 7 teams (which is completely fine by the way).

Manchester City
Arsenal
Manchester United
Newcastle United
Liverpool
Chelsea
Tottenham

Highly unlikely any team outside of those 7 will challenge for a EPL title in the next decade (and maybe not even some of those teams will. Tottenham is slipping and hasn't wont anything of merit...ever. Manchester United haven't won a title in a decade.) So when you watch games and learn about the clubs, focus on those teams if you want to follow a team that has a chance at winning big trophies.
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My only criteria is to pick one which effectively utilizes its resources (too jaded by my A&M sporting fandom) and is occasionally (hopefully soon regularly) challenging for world championships ALA NBA or MLB.
Just go ahead and follow Man City. Nobody will respect you but you'll see your team win every year because they've broken every financial rule in the book to build a super team.
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wangus12 said:

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My only criteria is to pick one which effectively utilizes its resources (too jaded by my A&M sporting fandom) and is occasionally (hopefully soon regularly) challenging for world championships ALA NBA or MLB.
Just go ahead and follow Man City. Nobody will respect you but you'll see your team win every year because they've broken every financial rule in the book to build a super team.
Thank you for this comment. I was hoping people would make a case for the teams they support or hate. I don't want to lose my respect so I guess that strikes Man City from my list. All though I do respect the fans prior to the oil money started flowing in 2008 (yes, I did my research).
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Luton Town. There are no other options.
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KCup17 said:

Luton Town. There are no other options.
Unfortunately they're going right back down after next season.

Fullham is always an option due to their recent history of having USMNT players star at the club.
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Do you want a team with a storied history?
Do you want a team who was one of the five founding members of the Premier League?
Do you want a team who is in the process of building a palatial new stadium on the historic waterfront in its city?
Do you want a team that is shadow-owned in part by a Russian oligarch via his Iranian crony and in part by an English dandy who is nowhere near the tres commas club?
Do you want a team whose current board and executive management have taken a mid-table regular and frequent challenger for European spots to an annual relegation battler?
Do you want a team whose current board and executive management have gotten the club into the crosshairs of a financial fair play investigation by the football association?
Do you want a team whose dodgy finances would have fallen apart and caused the club to almost assuredly go into administration if they hadn't pulled a rabbit out of a hat on the last day of the season to escape relegation?
Do you want a team who has spent absurd amounts of cash in transfer fees and wages only to produce diminishing results on the field?
Do you want a team whose board and management are completely out of touch with its fanbase?
Do you want a team that hasn't won a single ****ing trophy in 28 years with no realistic prospects of winning another one on the horizon?
Do you want a team to support that is as much of a beating as Aggie football?

If yes to all of the above, welcome to Everton!

ETA: Everton supporter here.
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I follow Arsenal and have done so since the late 90s.

One of the more historic teams in terms of history and success. Haven't had much success other than winning the domestic cup quite a bit over the last few years. Have had some dark times over the last 5 years, but now have the youngest team in the league and challenged for the title this year. Fairly bright future due to their youth. Seem to finally have an executive team making smart decisions on which players to bring in.

Play in a very entertaining way. Hopefully they can make the next step and win their first title in 20 years.
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A quick review of the 7 clubs per your criteria:

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My only criteria is to pick one which effectively utilizes its resources (too jaded by my A&M sporting fandom) and is occasionally (hopefully soon regularly) challenging for world championships ALA NBA or MLB.

Man City: They certainly fit your criteria, but as others have said you won't get much respect for picking them. It would also be a pretty soulless existence I'd think. Imagine someone deciding today they wanted to follow college football and picking Alabama. Sure they'll win a lot, but....so what?

Arsenal: As said above, very exciting young core right now who almost won the league out of nowhere this year and have the potential to achieve things soon if they keep the core together and add the right pieces. They haven't won the big one in 20 years, and the years where they've even been in contention for it have been rare, but even in the lean years they were good for some FA Cups. So mixed results on utilizing resources but an upward trajectory at the moment. (Disclaimer: I am an Arsenal fan)

Man Utd: At one time the team that utilized its resources so well and won so much that everyone else hates them, even though the glory days were now more than a decade ago. Could be on the way back to contender status, but in terms of return on investment, the last 10 years have been a disaster.

Liverpool: Great historic club. For the last several years they have been second best to Man City (winning in 2020 for the first time in 30 years), although this season was their most disappointing season in a while. The good thing about Liverpool from an ROI perspective is even when they weren't winning the league for a long time, they were regular contenders for and occassional winners for big things, even the Champions League. Plus they have the team entrance to You'll Never Walk Alone, which I think is iconic.

Newcastle: Could be on the way up to rivaling Man City due to recent Saudi investment, but it's too early to tell on how good they are on the ROI. You do have to have Phil Mickelson levels of moral flexibility to jump on this bandwagon though.

Chelsea: For two decades they might have fit your criteria better than anyone, although the investment was from a Russian oligarch who had to sell the team in 2022 due to sanctions for obvious reasons. Now owned by Americans and the past year has been so bad it's monumentally hilarious to everyone else. 12 months of no plan other than throwing money around, without thinking about how the difference assets they are buying fit together. Still have enough money they can never be ruled out long term though, especially if they do identify a plan.

Tottenham: Talk a big game, occassionally go on a really good run, nothing to show for it in the end. At all. The least successful so called "big club" by a large margin.



Overall, I echo the suggestion to watch some games starting in the new season and see which team/story appeals to you. If you want to go beyond the "big" clubs there are some interesting mid-table teams with interesting potential or stories like Brighton, Aston Villa, etc.




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My son and I picked 2 teams at
Premier League
Championship
League one
League two

Plus even we have teams in national league
Oldham athletic
Notts Country
Wrexham

Gives you the full Sprectrum. IN the premerier league we root for one top 6 type team and one underdog type team. The only common team we root for is Manchester City. For me mostly because I was a huge David Silva fan. He was a big fan of Sergio Agero and Edin Deko. My underdog team in EPL was Leichester City, 2015 was a great ride, but now relegated. Luton Town is a great story, will root for them and Burnley as my underdog teams in EPL next year.

I know a few hardcore Newcastle, Arsenal, and Liverpool fans. They have locations / pubs / sports bars where they all meet and watch the games. After you pick a team, you might try watching a few games with other fans. Or maybe even before deciding and reading up on the stories go watch games with other dedicated fans.

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I was in this boat about 10 years ago and chose to follow Aston Villa, mostly because I want to own an Aston Martin one day (ridiculous, right?)

They have history so that was cool, but then got relegated…but I probably enjoyed watching them work back up even more. They finally look to be turning a corner after finding a legit manager this season.

However, like the Aggies, AVFC will frustrate the hell out of you, and leave you scratching your head more often than not. But as Aggies, we are use to that.
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I've tried to find a team in the Premier League and haven't quite yet. Not a fan of Man City or Newcastle because they are state owned. When I first started following the Premier League, Man U was the dominate team and rooting for the them felt like rooting for the Yankees. I visited London and Chelsea had a very posh, aristocratic feel so I hated them until they signed Pulisic. I like both Liverpool and Everton (odd I know) because Liverpool has American owners and Everton had Tim Howard when few Americans were playing overseas. I've never really had a reason to love or hate Arsenal. I like Tottenham because of Son/Kane and also feel a bit sorry for them.

From a broader European perspective, I've found myself a big fan of Celtic. I visited Scotland/Glasgow before becoming a fan and really enjoyed it. I walked past the stadium which piqued my interest, and I connected with the backstory. A club founded to feed and provide community for Catholic immigrants with a soft spot for Irish Republicanism. The first few games I watched on TV were Celtic v Rangers and the atmosphere was incredible. They reminded me of the best games I've been to at Kyle Field. Even though Scotland is basically a 2 team league, it gives the season a CFB feel where every game matters because dropping points can break your season. They are also committed to playing a free-flowing style which is fun to watch. Even though they have had poor European campaigns, there is always a higher goal to shoot for, and they win plenty of domestic trophies to keep you feeling good (yes, it's a very small pond).
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So the reason everyone is saying City is because you said: "My only criteria is to pick one which effectively utilizes its resources (too jaded by my A&M sporting fandom) and is occasionally (hopefully soon regularly) challenging for world championships ALA NBA or MLB."

So here's the deal: imagine that the NFL didn't have a salary cap and that around 1999 Bill Gates bought the New England Patriots, a crappy franchise without much history to that point. So he pumps a bunch of money in the club, still hires Belichick, they still win a bunch of Super Bowls, and then when Brady left, they just go out and buy Mahomes. And Tyreek Hill and Derrick Henry. Then imagine someone said exactly the same thing you said who was picking an NFL team. What are you going to say? That they aren't well run or use their resources effectively? They've got Bill Belichick, of course they use their resources effectively. Are they going to challenge for championships? Holy crap, it's a minor miracle when they don't win. But… you'll be one of *those* kind of fans, right?

That's City. Completely hits all of your criteria, and yet… ick.
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Thanks everybody for the feedback. I started this journey on choosing a soccer team which helped me forget A&M sports (especially A&M football) during the year. I did some research and have made my decision.

Here are my reasons for rejecting the following teams:
1. Arsenal - It seems this club does not win many titles but definitely talks a big game. They started well this season but fell off at the end. It reminds me of a certain college football team. Brought up bad memories and had to be rejected. They do have great fan reactions on YouTube and I look forward to watching them after losses.
2. Tottenham - Never win trophies but have great new facilities. I had to reject for similar reasons as mentioned in bullet one. Their owner is hated by the fans and that was another reason to reject them.
3. Chelsea - new ownership who is very involved in day-today running of the club. Spent an exorbitant amount of money but got mid table results. Looks like the first three clubs remind me of A&M and had to be rejected.
4. Newcastle - looks like a new team in the mix for the top honors and was a good candidate to choose. Unfortunately, I don't want to be associated with bone-saw man and had to reject them.
5. Man City - Rejected for reasons mentioned earlier. Will hate with a passion for reasons mentioned below.

I was left with two choices: Liverpool and Manchester United. Both are great choices with great home environments and great histories (i'm not a complete glory hunter but it definitely helps when choosing a club with no allegiance sitting in a foreign land).

I really like the new manager Erik Ten Hag and the way his teams play for him. I feel that I want to go on this journey with him and see what his teams can accomplish. However, I realize their owners may cause headaches in the future but I'm no band wagon fan. I, hereby, pledge my allegiance to the Red Devils of Manchester! #GGMU #MUFC

Honorable consideration: Brighton.

NATTY OR BUST. BUST IT IS.

GIVE ME NATTY, OR GIVE ME BAS!!!
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Look forward to watching the plastic fans of Oilchester City cry as they miss out on a trophy tomorrow.
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For the record, I don't know that Arsenal belongs in the "too much like A&M" category. They have 13 top flight titles.

That said, Tottenham have only 2. And they were from before most of us were born. Sounds a little familiar…
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Congratulations on your choice. I look forward to hearing you complain about unfair officiating unironically.
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I chose City back in 13 because I was tired of following losing teams locally and wanted a team on the way up. Sure they had some success but they were still on the up and coming. My criteria was a team that would have future success and I liked their style. So it came down to Chelsea and City. I watched them both a few matches and liked City's style better but it was before Pep. He only made it better.

My advice. Get in on the Newcastle bandwagon while it's still early. You will have a great time following their upcomming success and still be able to say you got in before they were juggernauts.

If you go with Man U, even though they suck, you are still basically becoming a Yankee fan, the worst of the worst.
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Texagsubscriber said:

Thanks everybody for the feedback. I started this journey on choosing a soccer team which helped me forget A&M sports (especially A&M football) during the year. I did some research and have made my decision.

Here are my reasons for rejecting the following teams:
1. Arsenal - It seems this club does not win many titles but definitely talks a big game. They started well this season but fell off at the end. It reminds me of a certain college football team. Brought up bad memories and had to be rejected. They do have great fan reactions on YouTube and I look forward to watching them after losses.
2. Tottenham - Never win trophies but have great new facilities. I had to reject for similar reasons as mentioned in bullet one. Their owner is hated by the fans and that was another reason to reject them.
3. Chelsea - new ownership who is very involved in day-today running of the club. Spent an exorbitant amount of money but got mid table results. Looks like the first three clubs remind me of A&M and had to be rejected.
4. Newcastle - looks like a new team in the mix for the top honors and was a good candidate to choose. Unfortunately, I don't want to be associated with bone-saw man and had to reject them.
5. Man City - Rejected for reasons mentioned earlier. Will hate with a passion for reasons mentioned below.

I was left with two choices: Liverpool and Manchester United. Both are great choices with great home environments and great histories (i'm not a complete glory hunter but it definitely helps when choosing a club with no allegiance sitting in a foreign land).

I really like the new manager Erik Ten Hag and the way his teams play for him. I feel that I want to go on this journey with him and see what his teams can accomplish. However, I realize their owners may cause headaches in the future but I'm no band wagon fan. I, hereby, pledge my allegiance to the Red Devils of Manchester! #GGMU #MUFC

Honorable consideration: Brighton.



Welcome! Big game today. I hope you will be greeted with a big win but, let's face it, that almost definitely isn't happening. But welcome nonetheless!
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jeffk said:

Congratulations on your choice. I look forward to hearing you complain about unfair officiating unironically.

Is there anyone who doesn't complain about unfair officiating unironically?
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Texaggie7nine said:

I chose City back in 13 because I was tired of following losing teams locally and wanted a team on the way up. Sure they had some success but they were still on the up and coming. My criteria was a team that would have future success and I liked their style. So it came down to Chelsea and City. I watched them both a few matches and liked City's style better but it was before Pep. He only made it better.

My advice. Get in on the Newcastle bandwagon while it's still early. You will have a great time following their upcomming success and still be able to say you got in before they were juggernauts.

If you go with Man U, even though they suck, you are still basically becoming a Yankee fan, the worst of the worst.

So do you recognize the overwhelming irony in this post or is it just like, a word you aren't familiar with and thus can't recognize.
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Just look at this board. What teams have the most posts? Man U fans are currently outnumbering us at our own Man City bar in Houston before the FA final. Man U is still the bandwagon yankee type team to follow.
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Sure thing bud. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Now now, there can be more than one bandwagon club.
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Checking in on how devastated our newest Man U fan is feeling after the cup loss…
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Seems like most of you are more concerned about wanting other people to respect your choice of clubs.. f em, city fan since aguerooooooooooooooo


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jeffk said:

Now now, there can be more than one bandwagon club.

Absolutely. I mean except for City obvi.
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Dre_00 said:

jeffk said:

Now now, there can be more than one bandwagon club.

Absolutely. I mean except for City obvi.


Sure. However, jumping on City now would be more like jumping on the Astros. Man U is the Yankees.
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First - Congratulations to Man City. You have the Nick Saban of World soccer but you also provide illegal financial incentives which earns the respect of the athletic department in Tuscaloosa. Hope you get points deducted and wallow with Tottenham and Chelsea in the middle of the table next year.

Second - United needs a few retoolings on the team. They were the first team to score a goal again starting the City team all year in the fa cup. We will be back and the glory days will be upon us. God is testing me with my sports fandom but the good times are coming.
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OK dude
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…challenging for world championships ALA NBA or MLB.

If you got a fresh slate, I'd think it would be more fun to not get attached to one of the bigger clubs. Something like a Brighton or Brentford.

If there's a European city/area you really like, you can also consider picking one of their clubs.

Watching a smaller club overachieve is more fun than watching one of the heavy hitters win trophies IMO.
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Texagsubscriber said:



Second - United needs a few retoolings on the team. They were the first team to score a goal again starting the City team all year in the fa cup. We will be back and the glory days will be upon us. God is testing me with my sports fandom but the good times are coming.


Hang the banner "only team to score against City in the FA Cup with a laughable penalty call"

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