Serious question, so don't kill me for asking. I know it is a big deal in the WNBA for someone to dunk. My HS team had at least 4 guys that dunked almost every game. I think the WNBA players are very talented, have good fundamentals and work as a team. However, it seems that my HS team could just pass to the center or forwards and turn around and dunk it every play. The size difference would be too much. Am I wrong?

One thing to consider is would the matchup use a 'real' ball or the WNBA ping pong ball they use. Not that I would watch games anyway, but I really hate that they don't use a real ball in the WNBA. What's next, lower the rims?

Go troll somewhere else.

Your HS team would probably get beat by A&M's women's team.

I don't care how tall they are and how easily they dunk. Highschool boys would get abused by adult women.

Your HS team would probably get beat by A&M's women's team.
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The OP obviously never played with a good female basketball player.

A decent 5A boys team could easily handle a WNBA team. The difference in athleticism would be too much for the women to overcome.

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A decent 5A boys team could easily handle a WNBA team. The difference in athleticism would be too much for the women to overcome.

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I would argue the lack of maturity, experience and size would be too much for the boys to overcome. I don't care how athletic you are, if your opponent is thicker and plays with better technique they will embarass you.

We used to scrimmage the girls varisty as freshman. It was awesome.

We ran them off the court....

Natural- I still think the boys take it. Boys can get uncontested shots any time they want, and they will block or alter tons of the girls' shots. Even in the WNBA, the game is often played not just below the rim, but below the net even. The girls only hope of scoring would be to have absolutely perfect execution of their offense, and maybe occasionally some good fundamental one on one moves. The boys however would have a much easier time getting good shots up.

If the boys team had decent coaching, they would destroy WNBA team. It wouldn't be competitive.

My sis went to Baylor on a BB scholarship. Me and her used to play 2 on 2 pick up games in the hood all the time. I am a stiff good only for rebounding and setting screens. We used to win all the time I loved how the weaker player always started out guarding her and then they would switch after we where up 8-1 or so and watching both guys yell at each other becuase they couldn't cover her was great.
We won until we got to tired everytime out.
We are over 40 now and she would still clean my clock one on one. I haven't been able to beat her since Jr high!

That's because you suck.

True but it is also becuase she hits every uncontested shot and is/was very quick and a good ball handler. How else could a sucky slow white guy and his 'lil sis beat two 20 something black stallion atheletes who always had 4-6 inches on me, most times out?

Agnzona's data is empirical and infallible, this debate is ova!

You could go to a crappy 5A district, find the best player on the worst team, and that guy would be the best player in history of the WNBA.

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I am a woman, but FWIW I don't doubt the WNBA team would beat any 5A HS and even some bad college teams. Women may not have the size, but they are generally much more fundamentally sound than boys. Plus the WNBA is the best of the best. You may not enjoy watching, but you can't deny their ability.

As for the "real" ball, the ball was originally made that size for the average male. There were no women playing at that time, so they never considered it. I can't even remember when they changed it, but it was after I finished HS (early 80's) and it was a great move for the women's game because they can control the ball better. However, no need to change the rims. The game isn't just about dunking and how tall you are.

I don't know what high school boys games some of you have been watching, but in 5A the game is regularly played above the rim with dunks being a common occurrence. So explain to me exactly how a team from the WNBA, of which there are almost no players than can jump high enough to dunk, will be able to stop a 5A boys team that can do so? That's not even getting into the huge discrepancy between overall athleticism (the 5A team will likely be faster, quicker, bigger and stronger).

I've watched some women's college basketball and the WNBA and it is brutal to watch. I see loads of missed wide open shots and bricked layups (by bricked I mean into the underside of the rim). People always talk about how the women's game is more fundamental, but I really have to wonder exactly what the hell those people are smoking when they watch games because all I see is mistake after mistake after mistake. The women's game from what I can tell is ridiculously sloppy in comparison to the men's game.

I like how by "5A High School team" most people just mean "team of black athletes." San Antonio Lanier made the 5A final four a few years ago and they couldn't have dunked it unless you had a couple of the players standing on top of each other.

I think what would actually frustrate the high school team is the kind of defense the girls team would play. Most elite level high school teams hate playing against any sort of solid defense. I do think the girls team would have a hard time getting shots though.

Agreed bob. I'm not doubting the girls (Oops, I guess they are women at the WNBA level)couldn't run with them, but because of their attention to the little things, defense being one of them I think they could play with the young pups who think it's all about running and dunking.

The ability to dunk is the most important aspect of the game. Just look at Dwight Howard in the Finals. His athleticism and dunking skills have allowed him to completely dominate the series.

No team has ever come up with a way to play defense in a way that neutralizes a decent dunker, so of course a WNBA team would just get their asses dunked off the court and back into the kitchen.

The ability to dunk easily is an obvious indicator of athleticism, i.e. anyone who can dunk easily can likely jump high thus they would be able to get rebounds and blocks a lot easier than someone who couldn't jump that high.

It doesn't matter what kind of defense the women play if they can't keep up with the guys who are going to be bigger, stronger, faster and quicker. If any of you are seriously going to sit here and tell me that the 5A boys team would not be more athletic than any WNBA team then you should possibly be committed because you're seriously delusional.

Again the point that the women's game is sloppy has not been addressed and I can't say I'm not surprised. In fact I never actually expected it to be addressed because everyone always glosses over it.

and a high school game isn't sloppy?

And I'm not sure how athletic you think a "good" 5A team is but I think a WNBA team could hang with most everyone. Maybe not a team that was featuring a dominant big man, but pretty much anyone else.

Well, I will also not gloss over your stupidity. You obviously know nothing team basketball. I dont feel like wasting anymore time refuting you inaccurate statements, so feel free to continue living in blissful ignorance shoulders deep in your own ass.

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Agreed...... Women's games are painful to watch.

A good 5A men's team (and by good I mean at least one or two decent college prospects and good role players) would easily beat the best WNBA team. The differece in athleticism, height and strength is just too much for women to overcome.

Guys have the advantage in every measurable physical attribute. And I don't know where this better fundamentals crap started, but if it's the case, why is the men's 3pt line farther away?

Heck I don't even buy the best of the best stuff because the WNBA doesn't pay squat.

When we were in the 8th grade, we would scrimmage the girls' varsity. We were by no means a good team and our girls routinely went a few rounds deep in the playoffs, but we would win the scrimmages.

I know its probably not the same as WNBA vs. 5A, but it shows the difference in athleticism.

Agree that there is no way a WNBA team could beat a good 5A boys team. The boys would be faster, stronger and could jump higher. If they made the girls play with the regulation size ball it would even be uglier. It's a myth that the girls play a more fundamental game. I don't watch much of the WNBA but the few times I've watched it I've seen poor shot selection and horrible transition defense to name just 2 areas. A good boys team would fast break them to death.

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That is absolutely false.

Those of you that think these WNBA teams could hang with a top 5A team, I don't know what to tell you. Women's basketball is painful to watch. Even at the elite level.

I have played against several D1 girls. I'm nothing special, but it was not even fair. I felt guilty because playing with them was too easy. The boys would block so many shots and alter so many, the WNBA'ers would have a lot of trouble.

Meanwhile, the guys would be able to score in transition a lot, draw tons of fouls, and get an open look at a jump shot any time they wanted, because of the glaring difference in athleticism.

And just for good measure, I hung out with a 5A boys basketball coach tonight, and brought this topic up, and he felt that his team (a big 5A school in the Dallas area that missed the playoffs) would be a 5 point favorite over any WNBA team. He felt that the female's basketball IQ would keep it close, but that the boys would win.

Again, that's a middle of the pack 5A boys team.

i was on the women's bball practice squad for 2 years here at a&m, and coach told us one time that if us guys (the tallest at 6'6) were to be on a team (10 of us), we'd be a top 5 team in the nation in women's basketball. And that's just a bunch of ex high school players.

Do i think Greg Oden's AAU team (with mike conley, and some others) could beat a WNBA team? Yes.

Would a decent 5A team beat them? hell no.

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I'm a firm believer that the guys 5A team would win,(and probably pretty easily), assuming they were at least decent.

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Do i think Greg Oden's AAU team (with mike conley, and some others) could beat a WNBA team? Yes.

Would a decent 5A team beat them? hell no.

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Um, of COURSE Oden and Conley would beat them. The women might not even score 10 points in the whole game against them.

Do you really think the men would have to be at Oden and Conley's level to beat the women?

If so, you are vastly overrating how good women are at basketball.

Do you realize how much more athletic an average 5A boys team is over any WNBA team?

The same people who think dunking and athleticism are key to the game are the people that thought James White was going to be an NBA superstar. When are you people going to get it through your thick skulls that the ability to dunk has nothing to do with how good you are in basketball?

Given that thinking, it is my suspicion that the people arguing that a 5A boys team could beat a WNBA team have never played on a decent basketball team in their lives. If they had, they'd know that a team that can make crisp, smart passes, can penetrate with the dribble effectively, and can hit outside shots consistently is ALWAYS better than a team of 6'6"+ dunkers.

When I was a freshman at A&M, we always used to play at the Northside courts over by Walton. There were 5 of us that typically played together, none of us could dunk (or even come close) but we played sound basketball, set picks, passed the ball well, and all of us could shoot. One day a group of guys came out there and were dunking and swinging on the rims, slapping the backboards, etc. We beat the tar out of them because none of them could shoot and they had no clue how to position themselves to use their athleticism against us. I was as dumbfounded as anyone out there as to how a group of athletes like that could get beat by a bunch of fairly slow cinder-block footed guys, but ever since it has become pretty clear to me that the most athletic team only very rarely equates to being the best team.

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If they had, they'd know that a team that can make crisp, smart passes, can penetrate with the dribble effectively, and can hit outside shots consistently is ALWAYS better than a team of 6'6"+ dunkers.

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When the athleticism levels are comparable, I agree. However, there is a point at which superior athleticism, height, strength and speed is just too much to overcome.

The WNBA playing a 5A men's team would be 6 inches shorter or more at every single position. Some starting PGs are as tall as women's post players. Because of this, it would be VERY difficult for the women to get a shot off. You'd see a ton of blocks, both on the perimeter and down low. The post play would be laughable.

On defense, a woman's center of balance is much higher than a man's and they would have a difficult time staying with even the slowest of perimeter players. Taking them off the dribble wouldnt even be a challenged.

The strength difference would result in women being unable to finish at the bucket and the men getting more And 1's than you've ever seen.

Finally, the "fundamentals" in the women's game are overrated. Go check out the turnover numbers.

The game wouldnt be close. If the women scored 30 I'd be impressed.