There I said it.

I've seen defense like this out of only one other team, the Lakers. And the Lakers don't do it consistently.

Memphis is the best defensive team I have seen since the '08 Celtics. Defense = championships. I'm not saying Memphis will win it all, but I AM saying they will go to the WC championship, and probably end up in the finals.

We'll see. They are definitely playing great basketball right now.

Randolph will come back to earth, and when he does, they will get bounced.

They averaged more points in the paint than any other team this year. And they are dominating in the playoffs, even against Kendrick Perkins, who was supposed to put a stop to that with Gasol/Bynum/Odom.

ZBO/Gasol are certainly playing like they are the best post duo in the NBA right now. Wouldn't mean much to me if it was against McDyess and Bonner, but them doing work against Perkins/Ibaka means a hell of a lot.

They averaged more points in the paint than any other team this year. And they are dominating in the playoffs, even against Kendrick Perkins, who was supposed to put a stop to that with Gasol/Bynum/Odom.

ZBO/Gasol are certainly playing like they are the best post duo in the NBA right now. Wouldn't mean much to me if it was against McDyess and Bonner, but them doing work against Perkins/Ibaka means a hell of a lot.

Playing great basketball right now, not the best team in the conference.

You only have to be playing best when the time is right. You don't have to be the best team in the NBA.

Credit given where credit is due.

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Playing great basketball right now, not the best team in the conference.

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Tell me who is better.

LA

How so?

Giving up 6 pts less per game with a higher point differintial than Memphis.

Both teams playing great but I think it is a naturla tendencay to say Memphis is playing the best because they are the lower seed and what they are doing is more surprising.

I'm honestly not surprised one bit.

is Daryl Morey still a genius?

Memphis may erect a statue of him outside their arena. He built them a playoff team and perhaps more

I can't really argue much about LA. Here's my take on it: I think LA has a higher ceiling and if both teams are playing their best ball, LA wins 10 times out of 10.

But LA has not played particularly well YET this year. Right now Memphis is the more polished team defensively, and I really don't think even Bynum/Gasol are going to have a lot of luck stopping Memphis' bigs.

I've noticed in the past that if you can get Kobe to focus on a 1-on-1 matchup, he tends to play outside of the team concept. Bruce Bowen used to do it. I could see Tony Allen doing it as well. That dude is a monster defensively.

Make yourself feel better spurs fans. hilarious.

Rationalization.....gotta love it.

It doesn't make me feel better.

I don't know why you think I'm "rationalizing". I said before the series I thought the Spurs would have a tough time with Memphis. I've said all along Memphis was better than their record. I just didn't know HOW GOOD they were.

I don't value my worth based on what I say on this website. And I could certainly not care any less what a bunch of other anonymous posters think of me, particularly given some of the drivel that gets posted here daily. Get over yourself if you think I would come on here to "save face" or gain acceptance from you or anyone else.

they are not the best team in the WC. ridiculous.

the spurs may have made them look like the best team in the WC by how they were playing against them....

but other than that...naw.

We'll see I guess.

The Grizz are playing better than the Lakers at this point, but the Lakers are pacing themselves for the rest of the playoffs. No need to exert a lot of energy if its not needed.

The Lakers killed New Orleans in their last 2 games by 16 and 18 points I believe.

Yeah but New Orleans had no business being in that series.

you do realize Memphis is a lower seed, who had never won a playoff game, ever, in the history of ever, playing without its best player, playing against a team with the best record in the NBA for most of the season.

New Orleans was a higher seed, with a top 10 NBA player, playing against a team that many, on here, said was faltering.

and Memphis is the best team in the WC. Whereas New Orleans didn't deserve to be there.


oh being a delusional spurs fan must be fun.

New Orleans record since Feb 1 (David West played most of these games): 14-18
Memphis record since Feb 1 (Rudy Gay missed all but 7 of these games): 20-12

Also look at Memphis' record against the west's elite teams versus New Orlean's record in the same games.

Also look at Memphis' defense versus New Orleans.

Next time, you might also mention that New Orleans was missing a fairly important player, and really their only low-post scoring threat.

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Yeah but you denied it every time. Now you're going to use it as evidence for how good New Orleans was? Ever heard of circular reasoning?

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I also don't see how stating that Memphis beat the team with the best record in the leage most of the year is evidence AGAINST them in a comparison to NO. Simple is so enamored with shaking his head at Spurs fans that he confuses himself.

Regarding the overall point, I don't think Memphis is the best team in the conference (Lakers until proven otherwise), but they have been a huge surprise.

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Memphis should clearly challenge for 72 wins next year, since the spurs were supposed to get 65+ easy this year, and now the 8 seed is the best team in the WC without it's best player.


or, the spurs were over-hyped, most of the spurs fans on this board got pwned since the spurs could've easily gotten swept, and now they're trying to find reasons for it.
Here's to your WC champions: The Memphis Grizzlies. well, at least the spurs were bested by the probable NBA champs!

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Hyperbole at its finest.

Only a handful of Spurs fans have posted on this thread, and at least two of them (Clay and I) disagree that Memphis is the best in the conference. But don't let that get in the way of your Spurs hatred.

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i do agree the spurs are making the grizz look amazing.

Is there one single thread on here that you don't f'ing ruin? Good God you are beyond pathetic.

disagree with spurs fans = ruin

then whenever i disagree, you come chasing me.

i ruin you puddy.

Is Memphis playing great basketball right now? Yes.
Is Memphis the best team in the Western Conf? No.

Until they are "dethroned", the 2-time defending champion LA Lakers are the best team regardless of seed. Between their coaching staff and players, they might have more championship experience than the rest of the (still alive) playoff teams combined. Plus they have the most clutch player in Kobe.

I'm not a Lakers fan and personally hope the Thunder win it all. However, my pick pre-playoffs was the Heat and I still think they are the team to beat.

I think the Atlanta Hawks are playing the role of Memphis in the East right now, except that the Hawks are flying a little under the radar right now.

Somehow I'm sensing that if Memphis beat Dallas it would be a joke but yet if they beat the spurs they are world beaters. You lost to an 8 seed... Deal with. You were supposed to dominate.. You didn't.