Coming from a long time Rocket fan, I have to say that Duncan is better overall because he's done it longer than Hakeem and he's won more and been in more championships.

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I love Hakeem and still think that, at his peak, he was the best center ever to play the game. But Duncan's career has clearly surpassed Hakeem's, and it's not close.

actually their career averages for points and rebounds are VERY close.

Duh... the only ones still debating this are rocket fans... everybody else rolls their eyes at them

but steals and blocks... well... yeah that makes it not even close

Horry and shaq disagree but who the **** are they?

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Put the crack pipe down...

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Hakeem Olajuwon has an Ag Tag! He's instantly better than Duncan!

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um, no

this debate isn't really a lay-up

but if it was, would duncan miss it?

Duncan betta than the Dream? Dude he's got 4 and Hakeem has 2, but u are sniffing crack!!! Hakeem is one of the Greatest Centers ever to play the game (behine kareem wilt and russell). Ask David Robinson!!

Duncan betta than the Dream? Dude he's got 4 and Hakeem has 2, but u are sniffing crack!!! Hakeem is one of the Greatest Centers ever to play the game (behine kareem wilt and russell). Ask David Robinson!!

Is Robert Horry better than Olajuwon because he has more rings?

Better, more-storied career? Sure, that's Timmy

Better, more-skilled, more dominant on the court player? Olajuwon

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Is Robert Horry better than Olajuwon because he has more rings?

Better, more-storied career? Sure, that's Timmy

Better, more-skilled, more dominant on the court player? Olajuwon

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This is where this thread needs to end. Duncan has had a better career because he's been playing at a high level for more years in his career than Dream. But Dream was one of the greatest (if not the greatest) Centers to ever play the game in those 6-7 years of his prime, and his talent is better than Timmy's. But It's not like you could go wrong with either one

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Is Robert Horry better than Olajuwon because he has more rings?

Better, more-storied career? Sure, that's Timmy

Better, more-skilled, more dominant on the court player? Olajuwon

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EOT

Edit: sorry summit I didn't read your post, so end thread now

[This message has been edited by mAgnoliAg (edited 6/21/2013 10:51a).]

While we're at it- let's go ahead and say Juwan Howard > Charles Barkley
and Mario Chalmers > John Stockton

Cause well- they have more rings

While Duncan is an all-time great, anyone that thinks he is better than Olajuwon clearly never seriously watched Olajuwon play.

You can say that Duncan has accomplished more, but Olajuwon was clearly the better player.

Crowbar demonstrating his mastery of argumentation with his flawless comparisons.

Hakeem sure had a lot of first round losses to be compared to the great TD

MVPs
Hakeem 1 - Duncan 2

All-NBA 1st teams:
Hakeem 6 - Duncan 10

How is this a debate?

Because Hakeem played in an era with Dominant big men and MJ. Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Dikembe, Alonzo, etc.

Duncan is the greatest PF of all time, but he didn't have quite the same comp(beat a subpar and aged Knicks squad in 99, avg Nets team in 03, meh Pistons in 05, Prince LBJ and the Cavs in 07). Hakeem might have won 4 as well if that guy Jordan didn't come back. So yes, just comparing all NBA totals and rings isn't enough.

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MVPs
Hakeem 1 - Duncan 2

All-NBA 1st teams:
Hakeem 6 - Duncan 10

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Everyone (I assume) knows that the league was full of dominant big men back in Hakeem's era. With the exception of Shaq, there were no big men even remotely close to Duncan's caliber. So of course Duncan is going to dominate and win All-NBA first team. Who else was there to choose from?

Dream had to battle Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, Mutombo, Mourning, etc. All those guys killed each other and were all fighting for the 1 spot on the All-NBA list. So using All NBA first team lists is not at all a strong argument

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Because some of us actually watch basketball instead of jerking off to stats all day.

If Hakeem were actually worthy of 1st team, they would have found a way to put him on it.

Much like Duncan was classified as a power forward and they changed his position to center to get him on it.

And what about all of his first round losses? The east was stronger than the west back then.

Duncan always had better teams. Hakeem had drexler for what 3 years? And then a past their prime barkley and pippen for short spurts. Hakeem was without question the best rockets player every year. Prarker has been better than duncan for 5 years.

Hakeem won his first ring with only role players. Noone else was even close to a star player in 94.

Hakeem had arguably the greatest individual season ever. MVP, DPOY, finals MVP.

Duncan is great but i'd still take Hakeem but I'm a rockets fan.

Hakeem was a guard in a center's body. He could do things no other big man could do. He played against more dominant big men. If you say Duncan is better, you've clearly never followed Olajuwon. Remember, he played with Sampson early in his career, which of course affected his stats. Dude would abuse Duncan.

Dream eot..if you dont agree put a nail gun in your anus and pull the trigger till it goes click

Shaq, Chris Weber, Barkley, Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller, and Kenny Smith ALL AGRRED Hakeem was the greatest center of all time.

It's like Bill Simmons said in his book (where he ranked Hakeem the 11th best player of all time), Hakeem only played with ONE all-star from when he was drafted to 1994 after the second championship. ONE. FREAKING ONE. And it was OTIS THORPE in '92.