Done because you have the weakest smack talk in the history of TexAgs? Talk about a backfire....

The troll to legitimate poster ratio on this board.

The Rockets fans remind me of horrible Cowboys fans. Four playoff series wins since their last championship in '94. Four.

They just won the offseason championship. Against mean old Dallas. They finally have a reason to peacock all over this board after years of ineptitude and it will not go to waste.

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As a Mavs fan I just dont see how we're gonna improve to become a contender by 2014-15 season.

I dont know specifics of Harris and Calderon deals, but let's assume they're evenly distributed. Let's also assume Dirk resigns for somewhere between Manu ($7 mil/yr) and Duncan ($10 mil/yr). Also assume Larkin, Mekel and other holds, that leaves us with about $35 million in cap room. Which sounds great right? You can easily add 1 max player and maybe even 2 if you play your cards right (though we still have $8 mil to spend this year and odds are it will be for multiple years, thus cutting into that figure above).

The problem is, as I look at next year's potential free agents - either unrestricted, restricted or player options - I dont see any game changer who is remotely likely to sign with the Mavs.

Lebron? no way in hell.
Melo? no way in hell.

Paul George? At first glance I thought maybe you money whip him with a max deal - and I believe because he's already been named All-NBA 3rd team and is likely to make at least that next year, he'd be eligible for a larger max - but then I looked at Indiana's cap space for next year - which they can go over to sign him - and they're in a really good spot to easily afford him. So he's out.

DeMarcus Cousins? He's restricted but certainly seems like a candidate to leave sacramento if he's not traded before then. He possesses a lot of talent but I dont think pairing him next to Dirk suddenly makes you a contender. Bogut is unrestricted next year. Yeesh. Greg Monroe is restricted.

We have all this cap room, but no one to really spend it on. And it seems we've sacrificed the development of young assets by not paying attention to the draft and by signing washed up veterans so that RC can compete to win the next game, instead of taking a step back and saying, "let's think bigger picture here and actually develop young talent."

Cuban always said he didnt want to be in a mediocre purgatory. That's exactly where this franchise is. Until Dirk retires, this team will win anywhere from 35-49 games and never seriously compete to get any further than the 2nd round of the playoffs (in a truly special year).

The only viable strategy I see is for Cuban via a trade, to acquire a good asset by also taking on bad contracts and eating up that cap space. That's his only real asset. Future cap space that can eat up bad contracts for the sake of landing a good asset. And even then, that good asset won't be a game-changer.

Yea I pretty much agree with the above assessment. Not landing Williams really hurt last year. We had a legitimate shot at him, and if we would have gotten him, who knows who else might have been willing to come along.

But we didn't, and now we are really screwed.

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I dont know specifics of Harris and Calderon deals, but let's assume they're evenly distributed.

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they aren't evenly distributed

calderon got 4/28M
harris got 3/9M

He means evenly distributed year to year over the life of the contract.

oh ok

The point of that comment, was the 2011 heat are the same team as this year. The 2006 heat is not, therefore you are a stupid ****ing moron.

Also, whatever moves we can pull, aren't currently on the radar. I'm prepared for us to suck this year, but probably still win around 40 games.

I don't understand the Mavs thinking by not offering Bynum. The Cleveland offer wouldn't have been difficult to beat. Why not take a risk at this point? Running back a team of Calderon, Harris, Dalembert, Dirk and Marion won't get you anywhere. The worst part is that this team won't be bad enough to fully tank in a loaded draft (unless Dirk gets hurt again). They will be bad enough to miss the playoffs and get the 10-12th pick. Chad Ford said there were 6-8 all star/franchise guys in this draft so that won't help the Mavs.

They also can't make trades because they have no trade-able assets. The only asset they have is cap space which you can't trade. Sadly, the only true asset they have is Dirk and his no trade clause. Neither Cuban nor Dirk want to go that route anyways. I think what the Celtics are doing is the way to go. If you aren't going to be good in the NBA then you need to be bad. There isn't as much parity like the NFL.

If you want to really tank, i think you have to get rid of Dirk. Otherwise you will probaby be picking around 10-13 at the worst.

I agree, the Mavs should be tanking, looking for a good pick in a loaded draft. It's loyalty to Dirk driving these moves. With all the talk of selling Dallas to free agents, how does Cuban sell another wasted year to Dirk? He's wasted 2 years of Dirk's career immediately following a championship with nothing to show for it.

I still think the best course was to trade Dirk on a 1 year loaner for this season and have him re-sign next season. It would have been very "Dallas" for there to be a nightmare dream season that we pretend didn't exist.

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I agree, the Mavs should be tanking, looking for a good pick in a loaded draft. It's loyalty to Dirk driving these moves. With all the talk of selling Dallas to free agents, how does Cuban sell another wasted year to Dirk? He's wasted 2 years of Dirk's career immediately following a championship with nothing to show for it.

I still think the best course was to trade Dirk on a 1 year loaner for this season and have him re-sign next season. It would have been very "Dallas" for there to be a nightmare dream season that we pretend didn't exist.

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agreed. So far Cuban showing restraint by not offering Bynum and lowballing Ellis. Lets see how it continues to play out. The best asset they can acquire at this point may be a top 5 pick next year, but it takes a wasted season of tanking to get it. How can Dirk put himself through something that? But how do you go about renting him out to a contender for a year? I can't wrap my head around it. I just want to see Dirk play in some more meaningful playoff games. Everything that came together in 2011 fulfilled all hopes and dreams, but I just want to see him go to battle a few more times.

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I think they saw something in the medical evaluation that made them walk. Same with the other teams involved. Something's not right.

> > I'll admit we are ****ed. But I don't see it as Cubans fault.<<

You've got to be kidding. Who needlessly broke up a championship team for a pipe dream on a semi-headcase that, at the time, wouldn't happen for a year or two if at all?

How many championships has Howard won, anyway? The Howard strategy was never sound. Cuban behaved like the guy who waited around for the girl who was never going to date him. Unfortunately, I know the feeling.

I don't fault Cuban for not bringing back the championship team and swinging for the free agent fences. I don't think many people would give the 2011 Mavs a chance to get back to the finals again.

However, I do blame him for a second try, and what appears to be a 3rd try next year, at the same strategy. I undrestand that grabbing one of these major free agents is the only way for a quick turnaround, but if they fail next year in the free agent market and then decide to rebuild, they've basically wasted 3 years.

Another wasted year coming up. And can someone tell me why we've signed like 10 guards?

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However its july. i think this team will have one centerpiece or game changer by the trade deadline. book it

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You have to have something to trade, and you can't trade cap space. what do the mavs have that anyone wants, other than Dirk that can yield what you call a "centerpiece or game changer"?

Don't worry, I'll wait...

Bottom line is that after the 11 ship, Cuban severely overvalued his standing in the NBA, but more so he misjudged the perception of the mavs by others not in the organization. The mavs have NEVER been good at getting players in the draft and to my knowledge they haven't once landed an elite FA, but somehow he thought FA's would flock to Dallas to play for him and with Dirk and abandoned the team building strategy that got him his one and only ship in team history...now he's stuck in a asset-less, financially flexible, perpetually playerless NBA hell...

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Hell yeah!

How many guards are we going to play?

i like the pickup. tradeable assets.

if the warriors can get rid of jefferson and biedrins, anything is possible in the nba.

atleast now we have a bunch of good/average assets we can trade to get somethign else back in the future.

donnie has built the team through trades. that is what they do best. from jason terry to nick van exel to marion to jason kidd to tyson chandler to steve nash have all been through trades.

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ESPNSteinLine
ESPN sources: Toe injury forces Mavs to shelve plan to re-sign fan favorite Devin Harris. Sides mutually agree to scrap three-year, $9M deal

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Also, 1st round pick Larkin suffers a broken ankle and is out 2-3 months.

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You can't make this stuff up

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

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http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/282141-duncans-wife-claims-hes-bisexual


Duncan’s Wife Claims He’s Bisexual.
Tim Duncan's divorce just keeps getting worse and worse. First, was the revelation that Tim and his soon to be ex-wife Amy were trying to get divorced on the down low. Then came the juicy fact that Amy had been cheating on Tim for a number of years and that Tim had her followed by a private investigator to verify the affair. Oh, it gets better. Next was the revelation that Amy had actually hired the man she was cheating on Tim with to run a gym for her and Tim.

Now, Amy is claiming she couldn't wait to get divorced from Tim Duncan because he had been having a homosexual relationship with his best friend for a number of years. Apparently, Duncan had developed a bromance with a man (name still unknown) who lived with him during his time at Wake Forest. Four years after college this man was still living with Tim. This man even lived with Tim and Amy the first 2-years of their marriage. The only reason he ever moved out according to Amy was Tim purchased a condo for him to live in nearby.

Could this be why even after Amy cheated on Tim for years that he is willing to give her anything she wants in the divorce? Is this why Tim had a gag order placed on her during the divorce proceedings? Is Tim Duncan gay or bisexual? Should it even matter?

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I live how some mav fan posted a spurs off-season story on their off season thread...nice wag the dog attempt...

I figured more Spurs fans would see it over here.

Yeah, I'd use that as an excuse too...

Prepy has an RSS feed of Mavs threads. Should write a book on trolling.

Rasher, shouldn't you be out celebrating the signing of Monte Ellis? It's the (snicker), best free agent signing (lmfao) in mavs history (full blown hysterical laugh)...

Excuse for what? You don't think the best PF in the history of the NBA getting outed by his wife discussion worthy?

I wouldn't be surprised if we still end up winning over 40 games and challenging for the playoffs, but there is just no hope of a championship. That is disappointing.

Update: mavs still can't sign a decent free agent, still live off of 2011, and still suck.