Having some trade machine fun.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtf4t6y
add Kings getting Celtics 1st round draft pick via the Nets + Tyler Zeller and Rockets getting a Celtics 2nd round pick

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hxabjmo
add Suns getting a DMo and Rockets getting a Suns draft pick

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zqvjqzt
add Suns getting a Rockets 2nd round draft pick

Guitarsoup said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Win a championship

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In the past 25 years, only two teams have had a player average over 7.5apg and won the championship and no championship team had a player average over 8.2apg (Kidd in 11). So maybe I don't build around A, B or C.

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Yes, exactly I want less assists

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OR.... you want more players creating assists. Warriors are killing the league in assists per game with no one averaging over 7.0/game.

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The Warriors also have 4 all-stars in their starting lineup that are capable of distributing the ball very well. Our only dangerous passer is Harden.

samin23 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Win a championship

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In the past 25 years, only two teams have had a player average over 7.5apg and won the championship and no championship team had a player average over 8.2apg (Kidd in 11). So maybe I don't build around A, B or C.

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Yes, exactly I want less assists

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OR.... you want more players creating assists. Warriors are killing the league in assists per game with no one averaging over 7.0/game.

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The Warriors also have 4 all-stars in their starting lineup that are capable of distributing the ball very well. Our only dangerous passer is Harden.

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That's his point.

samin23 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Win a championship

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In the past 25 years, only two teams have had a player average over 7.5apg and won the championship and no championship team had a player average over 8.2apg (Kidd in 11). So maybe I don't build around A, B or C.

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Yes, exactly I want less assists

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OR.... you want more players creating assists. Warriors are killing the league in assists per game with no one averaging over 7.0/game.

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The Warriors also have 4 all-stars in their starting lineup that are capable of distributing the ball very well. Our only dangerous passer is Harden.

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Exactly my point. How many teams win the championship with just one player that can create offense? No matter how good that player is (and Harden is playing like a world beater) they always get bounced from the playoffs without other players that can create for themselves and others.

aggie1906 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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samin23 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Win a championship

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In the past 25 years, only two teams have had a player average over 7.5apg and won the championship and no championship team had a player average over 8.2apg (Kidd in 11). So maybe I don't build around A, B or C.

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Yes, exactly I want less assists

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OR.... you want more players creating assists. Warriors are killing the league in assists per game with no one averaging over 7.0/game.

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The Warriors also have 4 all-stars in their starting lineup that are capable of distributing the ball very well. Our only dangerous passer is Harden.

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Exactly my point. How many teams win the championship with just one player that can create offense? No matter how good that player is (and Harden is playing like a world beater) they always get bounced from the playoffs without other players that can create for themselves and others.

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So you want 4 All Stars. Ok, who does't?

Now what does that have to do with the original question?

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Is it even possible for you to make an argument without the use of fallacies?

Can you make an attempt to discuss basketball logically and reasonably?


The point is pretty clear and other people seem to get it. You can build a championship team with any of those guys. But it matters what you put around them. Pretty much every title team in the modern era have a few things in common.

1. Multiple players that can create high percentage shots for themselves and others.
2. A solid defense with (at least one) elite defender in the starting lineup. They can get stops down the stretch.
3. Solid role players at the non-elite positions. Don't have to be world beaters, but guys that can hit clutch shots and/or defend.

I think you could center a championship team around dozens of NBA players as the main focal point. But you have to create each team differently and you need to fill up those roles.

And without a second player that can create offense, no team is going to win it all, especially with two super-friends teams right now.

Guitarsoup said:

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samin23 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Win a championship

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In the past 25 years, only two teams have had a player average over 7.5apg and won the championship and no championship team had a player average over 8.2apg (Kidd in 11). So maybe I don't build around A, B or C.

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Yes, exactly I want less assists

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OR.... you want more players creating assists. Warriors are killing the league in assists per game with no one averaging over 7.0/game.

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The Warriors also have 4 all-stars in their starting lineup that are capable of distributing the ball very well. Our only dangerous passer is Harden.

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Exactly my point. How many teams win the championship with just one player that can create offense? No matter how good that player is (and Harden is playing like a world beater) they always get bounced from the playoffs without other players that can create for themselves and others.

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ehhh, you have a valid point

Almost wanted to go to the game just to do the meet n greet with Moochie Norris

Guitarsoup said:

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aggie1906 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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samin23 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Win a championship

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In the past 25 years, only two teams have had a player average over 7.5apg and won the championship and no championship team had a player average over 8.2apg (Kidd in 11). So maybe I don't build around A, B or C.

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Yes, exactly I want less assists

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OR.... you want more players creating assists. Warriors are killing the league in assists per game with no one averaging over 7.0/game.

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The Warriors also have 4 all-stars in their starting lineup that are capable of distributing the ball very well. Our only dangerous passer is Harden.

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Exactly my point. How many teams win the championship with just one player that can create offense? No matter how good that player is (and Harden is playing like a world beater) they always get bounced from the playoffs without other players that can create for themselves and others.

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So you want 4 All Stars. Ok, who does't?

Now what does that have to do with the original question?

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Is it even possible for you to make an argument without the use of fallacies?

Can you make an attempt to discuss basketball logically and reasonably?


The point is pretty clear and other people seem to get it. You can build a championship team with any of those guys. But it matters what you put around them. Pretty much every title team in the modern era have a few things in common.

1. Multiple players that can create high percentage shots for themselves and others.
2. A solid defense with (at least one) elite defender in the starting lineup. They can get stops down the stretch.
3. Solid role players at the non-elite positions. Don't have to be world beaters, but guys that can hit clutch shots and/or defend.

I think you could center a championship team around dozens of NBA players as the main focal point. But you have to create each team differently and you need to fill up those roles.

And without a second player that can create offense, no team is going to win it all, especially with two super-friends teams right now.

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Holy overreaction. Dude, the stats show Harden is having a superior season to Nash when he won his MVPs. It is somewhat an apples to apples comparison when you look at the system & coach. The obvious pick was Harden and we all move on impressed by our superstar.

I'm not sure what or who you're arguing against.

I really have no idea why Cousins needed rest tonight. Is he suspended and they don't want to call it that?

WES2006AG said:

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I really have no idea why Cousins needed rest tonight. Is he suspended and they don't want to call it that?

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No clue. Just glad my fantasy opponent has him. It's not a back to back either way.

Going to kill my Capela + Anderson play tonight if the Kings continue to get blown the F out.

I love three pointers.

It's nice having nights like this. We almost never had games like this last year.

aggie1906 said:

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It's nice having nights like this. We almost never had games like this last year.

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Last years team would have beat tonight's Kings team by 5 after a miraculous 4th quarter comeback to force overtime.

Refs hate Montrezl for some reason

This is fun

60.7% from 3?

My God.

102 points after 3. No reason for Harden to see the floor again tonight.

Why has the end of the bench not come in yet?

shano0603 said:

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Why has the end of the bench not come in yet?

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Coach Pringles just thinks that little of Ennis, Brown, and Wiltjer's ability to hold this lead.

Hickory High said:

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shano0603 said:

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Why has the end of the bench not come in yet?

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Coach Pringles just thinks that little of Ennis, Brown, and Wiltjer's ability to hold this lead.

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We are playing a d-league team. We could play with 5 TexAg'ers and still hold it down....

Does this mean we are taking Cousins and Gay with us

Ok I'm down to play, but only if I get to be the stretch 4 that doesn't play defense.

Good win by the Rockets tonight!

Have some extras for Friday for way less than box office If anyone is interested shoot me a PM with how many (or email username@gmail.com).

I loved the postgame interview with Dekker last night. He was saying when they would come to the bench during timeouts late in the game James' mom was yelling at him to shoot more 3's so they could get to the franchise record. I think they only needed two more.

Welp, Donuts is officially gone. None of this has made any sense. I'd like for us to add some sort of a piece to replace him now.