They aren't comparing year to year.

They are comparing the Cubs well earned reputation of beating themselves in important games and saying that the Cards are beating themselves this year and are thus comparable to the Cubs.

Is it really that complex an allegory?

yes

okay, we'll see where Holliday ends up in the offseason

He was 2 for 12 in the NLDS with 1 RBI (and 1 big error)

You really don't like Matt Holliday do you?

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Hopefully St. Louis is able to sign him.

the St. Louis media is already starting the campagin:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/bryanburwell/story/6EC2CDA1C902C4E78625764C00092824?OpenDocument

boy, this seems a lot like the Astros, Boras, and Beltran 5 years ago.

Yes Cardinals = Astros.

W, did Matt Holliday sleep with your wife?

Boras getting the Cardinals softened up already:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-scott-boras20-2009oct20,0,2061506.story

matt holliday would give his left and right nut to be anything close to mark teixeira

Tex is a once in a decade free agent first baseman.

Matt Holliday is the same as johnny damon with better defense

W, Holliday will not be a Cardinal.

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matt holliday would give his left and right nut to be anything close to mark teixeira

Tex is a once in a decade free agent first baseman.

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No one really gives a crap, but since you brought it up, there are several first baseman playing right now that I'd take over Tex. Maybe you're right that none of those guys have or will go to free agency in this decade...

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Matt Holliday is the same as johnny damon with better defense

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Johnny Damon would give his left and right nut to be Holliday...a guy who can hit for much more power, a guy who can hit for much more average and a guy who, as you said, plays better defense.

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matt holliday would give his left and right nut to be anything close to mark teixeira

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Holliday .319/.390/.545/.935 4 all-star appearances

Teixeira .285/.377/.537/.914
2 all-star appearances

Holliday is off to a hot start batting average-wise in 2011. Some credit to Lance. But Pujols' slow start (and 9 GiDP's) are killing Holliday's RBI chances (13 total)

wonder how Cardinals feel now.



[This message has been edited by BMX Bandit (edited 10/27/2013 6:18a).]

Nice find BMX.

Teixeira WAR since 2007: 25.7


Matt Holliday?


38.7

Is W still touching himself over Holliday?

classic texags karma

ttt the thread when the Cardinals have control of the series and Holliday looks like a potential MVP...and boom...the Red Sox win 3-in-a-row and it's over. Holliday was 1 for 11 in games 4, 5, and 6.

should have left the thread alone

and back to the original premises...

never came close to his Coors Field HR and RBI totals in St. Louis. Check the stats

lol, he is a superstar and worth every penny of his contract. The Cardinals made a great deal to get him in St Louis and win a ton of games.

This thread was as dumb then as it is now.

The OP's obsession with Holliday is very strange.