I said this weeks ago. Then Framber + 3 of Javier, Urquidy, France, Brown. Other guy in the pen. That is not a team I want to see in the playoffs if I am anyone. A SP would be great but we can make a solid run with these players (if Dusty is kind enough to let us make the playoffs). We can also flame out like any other team not getting hot in a month. The best team in the AL just lost 7 of 9 to other playoff teams.J Peterman said:
I would trade Gilbert for an arm in a heart beat. If you can lock up Tucker you have your outfield for a while (Yordan, Chas, and Tucker). You have your left side of the infield locked up, maybe you want to get some youth at 2nd and 1st but really no minor leaguer should be off limits....bet we wish Forrest Whitley wasn't off limits when we could have gotten something for him. Also, farm system ranking mean nothing. What was French ranked?
Id even take another bullpen guy, the SD closer for example. That gives us 5 arms that you know will pitch a shutout inning. So really, your starter only needs to give you 4. Between framber, Javier (promising last start) , Urquidy, Brown, and French I feel good getting those 4 innings. While it would be nice to get a starter with contract control over multiple year, if you get Garcia back you still have a great 5 man rotation..so a rental for Gilbert to win this year may not be so bad, especillay as i struggle to see a window for Gilbert to come up.
Honeslty, the only hole on this team is Dusty. Try one game with:
Altuve
Bregman
Yordan
Tuck
Abreu
Diaz
Chas
Pena
Julks/Meyer
Any you may not need a quality start every night to win.
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texasaggie2015 said:I'm a little higher on Clifford than Gilbert. Luis Baez is right there too.Ags #1 said:
Clifford is the future
I figured you were talking about Baez. Love him
Gilbert, Blanco, and Whitley and they pay this year of salary.
I'm kinda surprised how quiet it is across the league so far.
The calm before the storm.EastCoastAgNc said:
I'm kinda surprised how quiet it is across the league so far.
They better be paying more than just this year for that
We don't need this year paid
texasaggie2015 said:The calm before the storm.EastCoastAgNc said:
I'm kinda surprised how quiet it is across the league so far.
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Leon and Meyers for 35. Sign it!
A couple of guys I haven't seen mentioned when we talk prospects is Kennedy Corona & Joey Loperfido. Both are in the Corpus OF with Gilbert. Both have better #s this season. Fangraphs have moved both up into our top 10.
Wabs said:
If Crane is working the JV deal and Dana is working other deals, then how about they simultaneously make deals for JV and Cease, each not knowing what the other had done.
Go all in.
The Pirates continue to get hits on Austin Hedges, Rich Hill and Ji Man Choi, per sources, but no deals are imminent.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) August 1, 2023
Gimmie Ji Man on the cheap.
Add Zach Dezenzo to that list. The organization is VERY high on him.Farmer1906 said:
A couple of guys I haven't seen mentioned when we talk prospects is Kennedy Corona & Joey Loperfido. Both are in the Corpus OF with Gilbert. Both have better #s this season. Fangraphs have moved both up into our top 10.
How much attention do you think Brown paid to the way Dusty handled our trade acquisitions last year?Farmer1906 said:The Pirates continue to get hits on Austin Hedges, Rich Hill and Ji Man Choi, per sources, but no deals are imminent.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) August 1, 2023
Gimmie Ji Man on the cheap.
redline248 said:How much attention do you think Brown paid to the way Dusty handled our trade acquisitions last year?Farmer1906 said:The Pirates continue to get hits on Austin Hedges, Rich Hill and Ji Man Choi, per sources, but no deals are imminent.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) August 1, 2023
Gimmie Ji Man on the cheap.
He doesn't need to, all he needs to do is look at how he's handled the catching situation all year.
Think we'd be better off picking up the tab on the contract rather than giving up our top prospects. I also think its dangerous to assume Tucker agrees an extension before at least trying free agency.
JV for Meyers or Julks and Crane takes on the salary. If they insist on an arm they can have Whitley or another lottery ticket.
JV for Meyers or Julks and Crane takes on the salary. If they insist on an arm they can have Whitley or another lottery ticket.
Nobody is assuming Tucker will re-sign. It's very very unlikely he will. The organization will be fine without Gilbert, as the outfield depth is very strong.
That said, I don't want to move him unless it's the right move.
That said, I don't want to move him unless it's the right move.
6 hours and counting
texasaggie2015 said:Add Zach Dezenzo to that list. The organization is VERY high on him.Farmer1906 said:
A couple of guys I haven't seen mentioned when we talk prospects is Kennedy Corona & Joey Loperfido. Both are in the Corpus OF with Gilbert. Both have better #s this season. Fangraphs have moved both up into our top 10.
Baseball prospectus has him as a top 50 player overall yet MLB has him at 27th in our own system.
He had a 1.102 in Ashville earlier this year. He hasn't quite taken off in Corpus yet.
We have acquired LHP Tucker Davidson from the Los Angeles Angels for cash considerations.
— Kansas City Royals (@Royals) August 1, 2023
Davidson has been added to the 40-man roster and will report to the big league club.
Seeing the name Tucker in that tweet gave me a heart attack lol
Would we be crazy to include France for JV?
Yeah it's giving up a pitcher but is France really a piece they see fitting into the future plan or is he a more of a flash in the pan sell high candidate?
Yeah it's giving up a pitcher but is France really a piece they see fitting into the future plan or is he a more of a flash in the pan sell high candidate?
France is kind of our ace at the moment.Ag_07 said:
Would we be crazy to include France for JV?
Yeah it's giving up a pitcher but is France really a piece they see fitting into the future plan or is he a more of a flash in the pan sell high candidate?
Ag_07 said:
Would we be crazy to include France for JV?
Yeah it's giving up a pitcher but is France really a piece they see fitting into the future plan or is he a more of a flash in the pan sell high candidate?
I think he's both.
Honestly, France's expected numbers indicate he's been pretty fortunate. I'm not saying I would, but I think it would be smart to at least consider selling him high.
Ag_07 said:
Would we be crazy to include France for JV?
Yeah it's giving up a pitcher but is France really a piece they see fitting into the future plan or is he a more of a flash in the pan sell high candidate?
Could be top of the market, older 'prospect' is he going to add velo and/or tertiary pitches?
J Peterman said:
Honeslty, the only hole on this team is Dusty. Try one game with:
Altuve
Bregman
Yordan
Tuck
Abreu
Diaz
Chas
Pena
Julks/Meyer
And you may not need a quality start every night to win.
texasaggie2015 said:
Nobody is assuming Tucker will re-sign. It's very very unlikely he will. The organization will be fine without Gilbert, as the outfield depth is very strong.
That said, I don't want to move him unless it's the right move.
Very unlikely Tucker stays in Houston?
texasaggie2015 said:
Honestly, France's expected numbers indicate he's been pretty fortunate. I'm not saying I would, but I think it would be smart to at least consider selling him high.
This is kind of where I am. I wouldn't jump to say yes but i also wouldn't hang up immediately.
I mean Gilbert/France for JV and money doesn't sound all that bad.
You'd essentially be rolling it back with the same rotation that won you a WS last year.
Framber
JV
Javier
Brown
Urquidy
Guess it would depend on comfortable you are that Framber and Javi find it again.
Cromagnum said:J Peterman said:
Honeslty, the only hole on this team is Dusty. Try one game with:
Altuve
Bregman
Yordan
Tuck
Abreu
Diaz
Chas
Pena
Julks/Meyer
And you may not need a quality start every night to win.
Scrap julks/meyers and put Dubon in LF
gigemJTH12 said:texasaggie2015 said:
Nobody is assuming Tucker will re-sign. It's very very unlikely he will. The organization will be fine without Gilbert, as the outfield depth is very strong.
That said, I don't want to move him unless it's the right move.
Very unlikely Tucker stays in Houston?
If 10 year $300 mil contracts were the going rate last off-season no telling what they will be in a few years.
Ag_07 said:
Would we be crazy to include France for JV?
Yeah it's giving up a pitcher but is France really a piece they see fitting into the future plan or is he a more of a flash in the pan sell high candidate?
France has been dealing all year. We don't know what he will be like in a playoff situation, but we have seen what happens to JV already more than once.
Hypothetically, if that got it done you still have lots of assets left.
Do you then go after Lorenzen or Rodriguez? Or try for another big bullpen arm?
Do you then go after Lorenzen or Rodriguez? Or try for another big bullpen arm?
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