***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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In reply to AggiEE • 10:37p, 3/24/25
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AggiEE said:
linkdude said:
some wet-blanketry that's been earned by the franchise over the years. If it helps the team this year though, I'm guessing most would say it's worth it. He won't be any easier to sign to an extension than most potential stars.

Personally though it seems like inversely it could make an extension more palatable since the team would be putting him out there and not screwing around with his service time.

"A rookie who starts on the roster and spends at least 172 days on the major league roster or injured list during a typical 187-day season, accrues a full year of service time"

My understanding is that Cam Smith can still be sent down and would not gain a year of service time. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Cam Smith, if he finishes in the top two ROY candidate slots, would automatically get a full year of service time regardless of how long he's played. It's also possible we get a draft pick if he wins.

Seems to be very little downside, imho. If a stud player earns his right to be on the roster, don't hold him back, you're only hurting your chances for 2025.
Screwing guys over on service time is one way we have earned their animosity in the past when it has come to trying to get them to sign extensions or new contracts instead of becoming free agents. Perhaps Dana is trying to turn over a new leaf on that strategy.
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10:53p, 3/24/25
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In this case, one consideration is whether we have a better option to play RF. Let's say he puts up around a 105-110 OPS+...Is anyone else gonna go to RF and go much above that? If the answer is no, why keep Smith down for an extra year?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:35p, 3/24/25
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Farmer1906 said:
Marvin said:
All of these "Walker to the IL" predictions need to get the hell outta here!


Aren't you the guy who predicts McCullers hurt every year?


I am the guy who predicted earlier today that he will pitch a lot this year, so NO! And predicting that a guy who hasn't pitched since the White Sox wore shorts would not be the epitome of health is a little different than a starter the team needs to perform.

I am also the guy who loves himself some Alex Cintron.
He was as beneficial as Lance last year, so maybe that caused your confusion…
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6:01a, 3/25/25
Season thread is posted! Let the heartbreak begin
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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7:07a, 3/25/25
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Do we still post here to discuss tonight's game?
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In reply to Marvin • 7:57a, 3/25/25
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I am also the guy who loves himself some Alex Cintron.
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In reply to iBrad • 8:49a, 3/25/25
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iBrad said:
Do we still post here to discuss tonight's game?


I say post here as it's still pre-season
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8:53a, 3/25/25
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9:17a, 3/25/25
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Record: 89-73
Division Finish: 1st
Playoffs: Division win division but no bye
Team MVP: Air Yordan
Team ROY: Cam Smith
1-3 Bold Predictions (Positive):
  • Yordan wins AL MVP
  • Arrighetti becomes a frontline starter
  • Hader leads the AL in saves

1-3 Bold Predictions (Negative):
  • A few TexAgs posters turn on Altuve while he struggles defensively
  • Bregman hits a walk off against us and TexAgs loses their ****
  • Staff cracks down on the thread even more than last year
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 9:32a, 3/25/25
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Teddy Perkins said:

  • A few TexAgs posters turn on Altuve while he struggles defensively
You're predicting the past, since this has already happened! (lol)


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  • Staff cracks down on the thread even more than last year
Booooooooooooooo!
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In reply to linkdude • 9:42a, 3/25/25
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Crane being more hands off recently is great to hear if indeed true. Hopefully Cam will be extended early if he produces like a guy you can build a team around like Altuve has been for this franchise. Eventually the Astros will have to pivot and get with the times when it comes to longer contracts.
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In reply to Mr. Awesome Time • 9:46a, 3/25/25
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linkdude said:
Crane being more hands off recently is great to hear if indeed true. Hopefully Cam will be extended early if he produces like a guy you can build a team around like Altuve has been for this franchise. Eventually the Astros will have to pivot and get with the times when it comes to longer contracts.
Wasn't Dana pretty quick with extensions to young guys that performed will in Atlanta? Loosing the one year, but extending him quicker if he performs is the way I see the team moving forward.
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9:49a, 3/25/25
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Cam Smith really comes off as a genuinely good person
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9:58a, 3/25/25
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It's an improvement but kind of looks like trash. They should have never messed with it.

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In reply to n_touch • 10:00a, 3/25/25
Dana worked for Alex Anthopoulos, but yes, Atlanta took that route. That can be risky as shown by Austin Riley's struggles last season, so I don't know how much Crane will be willing to go all-in on that approach especially with a potential rebuild looming in a few years.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:20a, 3/25/25
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Looks like they also got rid of the signage and painted the brick facade to the right of the batters eye. Our pitchers are probably pissed.
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In reply to Mr. Awesome Time • 10:26a, 3/25/25
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Dana worked for Alex Anthopoulos, but yes, Atlanta took that route. That can be risky as shown by Austin Riley's struggles last season, so I don't know how much Crane will be willing to go all-in on that approach especially with a potential rebuild looming in a few years.
As much as Riley struggled, he still had 2.9 WAR in 110 games. He was basically Bregman except with more recent batting success. We would all love to have 27 year old Bregman on that contract.
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In reply to iBrad • 10:33a, 3/25/25
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iBrad said:
Looks like they also got rid of the signage and painted the brick facade to the right of the batters eye. Our pitchers are probably pissed.
It makes me wonder how much of our struggles at home the last few years, particularly in the postseason, was in some ways linked to the batters eye and it being difficult to see the ball effectively.

On the other hand, it didn't seem to have as big of an impact on our opponents, so maybe I'm just trying to find an explanation to explain something that continues to baffle me
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In reply to GigEmMortis • 10:40a, 3/25/25
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GigEmMortis said:
iBrad said:
Looks like they also got rid of the signage and painted the brick facade to the right of the batters eye. Our pitchers are probably pissed.
It makes me wonder how much of our struggles at home the last few years, particularly in the postseason, was in some ways linked to the batters eye and it being difficult to see the ball effectively.

On the other hand, it didn't seem to have as big of an impact on our opponents, so maybe I'm just trying to find an explanation to explain something that continues to baffle me
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In reply to MaxPower • 10:50a, 3/25/25
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Mr. Awesome Time said:
Dana worked for Alex Anthopoulos, but yes, Atlanta took that route. That can be risky as shown by Austin Riley's struggles last season, so I don't know how much Crane will be willing to go all-in on that approach especially with a potential rebuild looming in a few years.
As much as Riley struggled, he still had 2.9 WAR in 110 games. He was basically Bregman except with more recent batting success. We would all love to have 27 year old Bregman on that contract.
50 games is a significant amount of time to miss as well. Seems like Riley is one of those guys who hits well against us no matter what. I don't remember offhand when Atlanta had to rebuild last, but is locking up multiple guys early still feasible for Houston down the road?
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11:43a, 3/25/25
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This again...
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 12:10p, 3/25/25
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Left handed outfielder the platoon with Jake. Hmmm…
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 12:23p, 3/25/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:

This again...
Definitely worth a flier...
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In reply to GigEmMortis • 12:25p, 3/25/25
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GigEmMortis said:
iBrad said:
Looks like they also got rid of the signage and painted the brick facade to the right of the batters eye. Our pitchers are probably pissed.
It makes me wonder how much of our struggles at home the last few years, particularly in the postseason, was in some ways linked to the batters eye and it being difficult to see the ball effectively.

On the other hand, it didn't seem to have as big of an impact on our opponents, so maybe I'm just trying to find an explanation to explain something that continues to baffle me

The mind makes it real. Whether it actually contributed or not, once our players started to believe it was part of the problem, it became part of the problem and needed to be addressed.

Makes you wonder how players hit before all of the parks started blocking off seats and adding the batters eye.
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12:32p, 3/25/25
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What a complete failure of a contract that was
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:36p, 3/25/25
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Farmer1906 said:
Left handed outfielder the platoon with Jake. Hmmm…

Last 3 seasons. I see some oppo shots.

Not a great fielder, but pretty good. Good enough to man CF.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:37p, 3/25/25
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Farmer1906 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Left handed outfielder the platoon with Jake. Hmmm…

Last 3 seasons. I see some oppo shots.

Not a great fielder, but pretty good. Good enough to man CF.

I think chas is the odd man out if they bring him on
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 12:40p, 3/25/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:
Farmer1906 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Left handed outfielder the platoon with Jake. Hmmm…

Last 3 seasons. I see some oppo shots.

Not a great fielder, but pretty good. Good enough to man CF.

I think chas is the odd man out if they bring him on
100% - gotta trade Chas at that point.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:42p, 3/25/25
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Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
Farmer1906 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Left handed outfielder the platoon with Jake. Hmmm…

Last 3 seasons. I see some oppo shots.

Not a great fielder, but pretty good. Good enough to man CF.

I think chas is the odd man out if they bring him on
100% - gotta trade Chas at that point.
Would anybody actually trade us anything of value for him?
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 12:44p, 3/25/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:

What a complete failure of a contract that was


Glad I'm not running the team. I wanted him on a 2-3 year deal after the 2023 season
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 12:53p, 3/25/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:

What a complete failure of a contract that was
Brutal. So $47MM for 2 total years and they got117 IP, a whip of 1.65, an ERA+ of 65 (ERA was 6.23). Thats the pitching version of Rendon.
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Mathguy64 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:

What a complete failure of a contract that was
Brutal. So $47MM for 2 total years and they got117 IP, a whip of 1.65, an ERA+ of 65 (ERA was 6.23). Thats the pitching version of Rendon.


Not as bad as what we paid JV in 20-21.
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