It seems like Bregman had no intention on coming back to Houston or that we were a fallback option, at best. They really just wanted to leverage our offer to get more from other teams, and when we publicly moved on, it screwed them. The one team willing to overpay for sentimental value was now out of it. Now it's looking like less years or Toronto are his only option.

Screw you, Bregman. Greedy *****. Go take your pop up game to Boston for 3 years. Fenway fans won't be nearly as forgiving as you have had it your entire ****ing career.

Ag_07 said:

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And I applaud Dana for that.

Regardless of how Paredes works out in an Astro uniform I love that he wasn't held hostage by Bregman and Boras.

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100%

The Astros' April 20 game against the San Diego Padres at Daikin Park has been picked up for Sunday Night Baseball.

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 15, 2025

Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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Tucker… only because we thought we had one more year with him.

n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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It's a wash in my book.

Trading Tucker gets us a younger version of Bregman who is more versatile. Then Walker holds down 1B until Smith is ready for the big league spot. If it's 2026 then Paredes can play LF. Plus, letting Bregs go frees up a lot of money.

I've made no bones about my issues with Tucker and I'm not sad to see him go. I don't see any way he lives up to the numbers he going to demand and will be the kind of contract that handcuffs all but about 5 ball clubs ability to compete.

Still need OF help but I think the ball club is in a better spot to compete for the World Series than when they were in November 2024.

Billy Baroo said:

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Going back a few posts... The main reason the Ohtani deal is so egregious is that they are able to capitalize now on the additional marketing revenue that he's generating, while paying him next to nothing. They can then take part of that revenue and put it in escrow, which will likely grow to as much, if not more than what they're going to pay him in those last years of the contract.

So, essentially they're getting him for nothing or may even end up positive on the deal once those deferred years become due. Glad Manfred was so worried about us creating a competitive advantage with a trash can (even though it was proven it didn't really create an advantage), while allowing the Dodgers to create the biggest competitive advantage the sport has ever seen.

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This is a CBA issue. The option to do this has been there. I don't get upset with people who take advantage of the situation. If it's an issue, owners and MLBPA should address it during the next CBA negotiations.

Also, while I don't like it, it doesn't mean it doesn't come with risk. It probably works out for them, but the numbers by age for the average viewer climbs higher and higher. The game hasn't brought in the younger viewers to replace the older viewers at a decent enough rate. The WS isn't drawing like it used to, and it's even getting outdrawn by some regular season college football games now. 10 years is a long time for the landscape to change, and will the viewership issue finally catch up to baseball within this next decade? Who knows what that $700M will be to the Dodgers in 10 years.

TarponChaser said:

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n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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It's a wash in my book.

Trading Tucker gets us a younger version of Bregman who is more versatile. Then Walker holds down 1B until Smith is ready for the big league spot. If it's 2026 then Paredes can play LF. Plus, letting Bregs go frees up a lot of money.

I've made no bones about my issues with Tucker and I'm not sad to see him go. I don't see any way he lives up to the numbers he going to demand and will be the kind of contract that handcuffs all but about 5 ball clubs ability to compete.

Still need OF help but I think the ball club is in a better spot to compete for the World Series than when they were in November 2024.

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I agree with most of these points.

I think losing Bregs hurts the most -- but not from an on-the-field performance perspective. I think the team on the field will miss his leadership. He seemed to take a lot of it after Correa left.

Someone else will have to step up.

That being said -- I think they are much better positioned for 2025 and the future with the moves they've made.

n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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None.

It's business. Signing either would have been bad business and made the next 5 years much worse as a fan. The nostalgia wears off real quick if you aren't competitive because you re-sign a big name.

I'd love if Crane did this:

Rangers Nation, how do you feel about paying $100 to watch the Rangers in 2025? pic.twitter.com/deOWD54bs9

— Rangers Nation ⚾️ (@rangers__nation) January 15, 2025

Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:

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Never thought I'd be sticking up for Boras but definitely feels like a situation where the player had way too lofty of an opinion of themselves. While Correa's problem seemed rooted in injury concerns, both guys appear to have conflated their personal success with the astros overall success. I don't think boras would make that mistake. He might make outlandish claims about what a guy is worth to the media, but he has been doing this for 40 years and rarely looks foolish when the dust settles.

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Who do you think was feeding Bregman his inflated market value? That's all Borass

AgLA06 said:

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n_touch said:

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Which one hurts more?

Tucker Gone?
Bregs Gone?
Minute Maid Gone?

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None.

It's business. Signing either would have been bad business and made the next 5 years much worse as a fan. The nostalgia wears off real quick if you aren't competitive because you re-sign a big name.

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Very true.

Pay guys for what you expect to get out of them, not for what they did for you previously.

As an option for out of market customers sure.

But not as an exclusive option. That would blow for us in market customers who get the games with our streaming services we have already.

Id pay it in a heartbeat


Literally the only reason I still have cable

Cuban OF Kevin Alvarez officially signed with the Houston Astros, their top player of the class.

Bonus deal: $2,000,000.

For many scouts, the most complete hitter in the entire class. pic.twitter.com/28wqnWSKww

— Francys Romero (@francysromeroFR) January 15, 2025

Josh tells a story about 10 minutes into this podcast about the Astros' infamous 2017 series against the Rangers in Tampa that you just have to hear. It is incredible. https://t.co/O3oi4NZvvx

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 15, 2025

AggiEE said:

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Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:

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Never thought I'd be sticking up for Boras but definitely feels like a situation where the player had way too lofty of an opinion of themselves. While Correa's problem seemed rooted in injury concerns, both guys appear to have conflated their personal success with the astros overall success. I don't think boras would make that mistake. He might make outlandish claims about what a guy is worth to the media, but he has been doing this for 40 years and rarely looks foolish when the dust settles.

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Who do you think was feeding Bregman his inflated market value? That's all Borass

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I think it's one or both of the people photographed here.

Mr.Bond said:

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Id pay it in a heartbeat


Literally the only reason I still have cable

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Same here. The Astros are the only reason I have cable and $100 per year would save a lot of money on that end.