***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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They're not moving towards him. They're still in discussions about a lot of different players and he's one of them
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texasaggie2015 said:

The roller coaster in this thread of "We want Breggy!" and "Screw him!" is really funny


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Crane needs to get off this sentimental kick and be smarter with his money in constructing rosters for the good of the team moving forward. I know Altuve wants Bregman back but if Alex is being too stubborn to accept the team's offer then move the hell on!
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agproducer said:

I'm an Alex fan... but just sayin'....




That's where I'm at.
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Farmer1906 said:




Wouldn't you like to have Polanco take those 350 PA instead of Dubon & Singleton?
LHH Singleton against a RHP? I want that. Jon is cheap and if you only use him in the right place (1B against a RHP or PH against a RHP) hes good. Good to pretty good. Hes not Yordan but hes good.
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There's a lot of reporting about Polanco. Is this imminent, or is it a strategy to try and send a message to Alex that if he wants to come back, he should accept the offer soon, or we'll sign Jorge?
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I vote Grichuk. Bregman has already been overpaid the last 2 years.
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Polanco + Grichuk > Bregman ?

Feels like the better move, less years, cheaper, more versatility
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Ag4life80 said:

I vote Grichuk. Bregman has already been overpaid the last 2 years.


Based on WAR? He has not.
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I'm ready to move on from Bregman. I think his contract will hurt us sooner rather than later.
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I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.
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I think this is accurate. Boras/Bregman are bluffing. Who blinks first?
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Don't usually care for DuBose but this is an interesting take.

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I think the reports on Jorge are a shot across the bow that his second chance is about to go poof
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Maybe it's Dana/Jim saying it's time to make a decision, Alex. You can't keep trying to get teams to negotiation on the only public offer.
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Farmer1906 said:




I think this is accurate. Boras/Bregman are bluffing. Who blinks first?


Yeah, if this is accurate, then I don't see what's taking them so long to come back to Houston. Unless he has just made up his mind that he really wants to leave and go somewhere else… which I don't think he has
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Could be. Unfortunately for Alex, his agent is Boras, and his ego won't allow him to not be in the driver's seat. It would take Alex telling Scott to get the deal done now.
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Yeah, the market for Bregman is not heating up in any way, yet Boras/Bregman wants to play chicken with a team who has not budged and has already filled his position.

No doubt they are trying to leverage fan hopes, but they have never had worse leverage.

I suspect the Astros are close to or already at their **** or get off the pot point.
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On another topic, do we have any guys in Sugar Land (other than Whitley) who could contribute to the bullpen this year?
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4 year -100 million

If you are an AllStar or top 10 mvp, a 30 million per year vests in year 5 and again in year 6 if a second time
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AJ would be my pick. He's a starter but his pitch mix might be better for a RP.
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Astros offseason thread is 9x over the Rangers thread
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So basically the Astros want him back and we'll make it work with him but they're sticking to the latest offer and it basically stands until he's signed elsewhere. It's their best and final.

But it's the only long term offer he has and Alex/Boras are getting greedy because they've misplayed this so badly. He has no leverage.

And real big tin foil hat take...Dana leaked just the 6/156 offer but we do have it on good authority that he bumped it up from there. But he hasn't leaked that so that Bregs can accept it and it doesn't look like he and Boras fck up all that bad.
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This sounds more and more like Boras trying to get a team to negotiate against itself. He's done it before.
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Yep. And we should feel no pressure to oblige.

I would reiterate a final offer, give a deadline, and say we would be happy to have a face of the franchise return, but we have a 3B and alternative moves we are ready to make before pitchers and catchers report otherwise.

Take the offer or leave it, but we are done bidding.
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Well the "good" thing about all the big free agents being gone and Crane only being willing to go over for Bregman is we have no pressure. Doesn't seem there's any other move we would make so waiting it out costs us nothing.
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astros4545 said:

Astros offseason thread is 9x over the Rangers thread


We have hope. South Oklahomostan, not so much.
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GigEmMortis said:

SpaceCityAg05 said:

I have been operating under the idea that it is Bregman or bust in the sense that Crane won't go into the tax unless it is for him.

But adding Polanco and Verdugo would be not only be significantly cheaper but would improve the roster much more.

2B Altuve R
3B Paredes R
DH Alvarez L
1B Walker R
LF Polanco S
C Diaz R
RF Verdugo L
CF McCormick R
SS Pena R

Yep, this is the way


I'd be way excited about this….
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


I don't like the Altuve to LF talk… the more I hear it the more I dislike it
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol
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texasaggie2015 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol


Not a crazy idea, imo. Worked out well for Yuli, and he hadn't played a single inning of 1b until in the big leagues.

Altuve at first makes more sense than in left, to me. Just, what about Christan Walker then
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texasaggie2015 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol


We'd lose a lot of stretch on a bang bang play at first...
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Not saying they're wanting to make him an every day first baseman. Just seeing what their options could be down the road
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texasaggie2015 said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol
He might be the shortest 1B ever in MLB.
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E said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.


I don't like the Altuve to LF talk… the more I hear it the more I dislike it
He sucks at 2B and his arm is terrible there too (btw, 2B makes more throws a game than LF). I'd be more worried about moving a player off a position he's actually good at.
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