***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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Mr.Bond
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5:30p, 2/6/25
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This is becoming sad to watch honestly
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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In reply to Honolulu Blue • 5:37p, 2/6/25
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Honolulu Blue said:
Agreed. As mentioned, he wants both a large annual salary and long term deal. He have to choose one, and his pride will cause him to bet on himself for a 1-2 year deal with player opt out.

Best suited for a short term deal is cubs and tigers. Astros and Sox have basically said he wouldn't play third, and that's not a route Bregman would choose if he wants to opt out for more money in a year.


He needs to choose a park where he can maximize performance if he goes the short term route. For doubles, that's comerica. For HR, that's wrigley. I doubt that distinction is a big deciding factor. Being with Presley and Tucker helps cubs odds even more. More protection in the cubs lineup (Tucker alone provides more protection than all of the tigers lineup)
Where have you seen that Bregman would not play 3B if he comes back? I have been seeing that Paredes would move to 2B.
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5:48p, 2/6/25
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Alex Bregman would 10000000000% play third base
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 5:49p, 2/6/25
texasaggie2015 said:
Alex Bregman would 10000000000% play third base


Its pretty close to LF can he try that?
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In reply to txags92 • 6:07p, 2/6/25
Ahh. Egg on my face. When I heard rumors of altuve moving to LF to accommodate Bregman coming back, I assumed (or lumped in with Boston) the Astros moving Bregman to second
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In reply to Mr.Bond • 6:14p, 2/6/25
Mr.Bond said:
This is becoming sad to watch honestly

Very.

All signs point to this being a very easy, obvious decision for Bregman.

Sad to see it play out like this, if it ultimately ends up in him taking a "bet on myself" deal over a petty thing like being paid less than $30M per year when $26 is on the table
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In reply to AggiEE • 6:18p, 2/6/25
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AggiEE said:
Mr.Bond said:
This is becoming sad to watch honestly

Very.

All signs point to this being a very easy, obvious decision for Bregman.

Sad to see it play out like this, if it ultimately ends up in him taking a "bet on myself" deal over a petty thing like being paid less than $30M per year when $26 is on the table

And $26 for six years.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 6:42p, 2/6/25
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My favorite arm in the system.
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7:00p, 2/6/25
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I can't read it all but right at the end where it starts to blur out, it says the Astros have come up some on the offer. I bet that it's in an effort to let Alex save some face and not look like he is coming crawling back to accept the original offer.
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In reply to AggiEE • 7:12p, 2/6/25
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AggiEE said:
Mr.Bond said:
This is becoming sad to watch honestly

Very.

All signs point to this being a very easy, obvious decision for Bregman.

Sad to see it play out like this, if it ultimately ends up in him taking a "bet on myself" deal over a petty thing like being paid less than $30M per year when $26 is on the table


He will never make lifetime $156 million if he takes a short term deal
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:24p, 2/6/25
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:25p, 2/6/25
EastCoastAgNc said:


Astros competing with themselves for the best offer

"Still not enough"
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:32p, 2/6/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Good thing it's not me negotiating or I'd have already lowered it and more likely pulled it.

I love me some Breggy, but he gone...
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:33p, 2/6/25
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Who are the two sources? Scott Boras and Bott Scoras??
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:35p, 2/6/25
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Farmer1906 said:
Who's ready for Bregman to sign 6/162 with the Astros?


Called it last week. It'll get done.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:36p, 2/6/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:




God i hope not
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Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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In reply to ktownag08 • 7:48p, 2/6/25
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He has no leverage right now. I'd love to have him back but he (really Boras) misplayed this terribly
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7:49p, 2/6/25
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I have a feeling this is what I mentioned about a month ago finally leaking out.

(At least I'm almost positive I mentioned hearing of it here)
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 7:49p, 2/6/25
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ttha_aggie_09 said:
He has no leverage right now. I'd love to have him back but he (really Boras) misplayed this terribly


Second rough off season for Boras clients (minus the obvious Soto deal)
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7:58p, 2/6/25
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For **** sake, hold to our offer. Come on man.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 8:00p, 2/6/25
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texasaggie2015 said:
I have a feeling this is what I mentioned about a month ago finally leaking out.

(At least I'm almost positive I mentioned hearing of it here)


I remember you mentioning it, but you didn't give specific numbers

Do you know the improved offer?
https://ts.la/eric59704
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 8:00p, 2/6/25
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texasaggie2015 said:
I have a feeling this is what I mentioned about a month ago finally leaking out.

(At least I'm almost positive I mentioned hearing of it here)


That's the improved one from a while back (6/162) right?

There was an improved but never stated offer above 6/156 that I remember hearing about.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:00p, 2/6/25
Farmer1906 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Who's ready for Bregman to sign 6/162 with the Astros?


Called it last week. It'll get done.


Pass.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 8:02p, 2/6/25
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That's a # I made up.
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8:03p, 2/6/25
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No idea what the new number is.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 8:09p, 2/6/25
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You did

I would bet this is another Dana leak
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8:24p, 2/6/25
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So to summarize,

We are the only known offer for 6 years.

We are the only known offer at or around $160MM

This continues to feel like Boras getting a team to negotiate against itself.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:25p, 2/6/25
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Farmer1906 said:
Nice job by blue keeping track of it. Angel wouldn't have even made the effort and called it a foul ball.
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8:35p, 2/6/25
If he does go to Chicago, he will give 5% to the state alone. If it truly is about the average per year, surely that's gotta factor in. Unless he just won't that smart.

So give him the equivalent to that and make it 6/171mm with a team friendly opt out after 5 that would still pay him say $10mm.

It'd step but I'd push that.
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In reply to PrestigeWorldwideAg12 • 8:39p, 2/6/25
PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
If he does go to Chicago, he will give 5% to the state alone. If it truly is about the average per year, surely that's gotta factor in. Unless he just won't that smart.

So give him the equivalent to that and make it 6/171mm with a team friendly opt out after 5 that would still pay him say $10mm.

It'd step but I'd push that.


Chicago isn't offering 6 years
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In reply to PrestigeWorldwideAg12 • 8:48p, 2/6/25
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And none of these guys GAF about taxes.

That's complete fan myth.
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