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tylhair said:

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Seems like the Arenado trade get more unlikely by the day.

I know many on this board are against it, but I thought it would make us better. I'm hoping for one final move to beef up the squad heading into the year.

The Brendan Rodgers acquisition was a nice little surprise that could work out really well.

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I'd be okay with the trade if a lot of his salary gets eaten by the cardinals and they take Montero

It makes us better this year and likely next year

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I think this is the rub. Cards aren't willing to do this.

Wabs said:

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tjack16 said:

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tylhair said:

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Seems like the Arenado trade get more unlikely by the day.

I know many on this board are against it, but I thought it would make us better. I'm hoping for one final move to beef up the squad heading into the year.

The Brendan Rodgers acquisition was a nice little surprise that could work out really well.

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I'd be okay with the trade if a lot of his salary gets eaten by the cardinals and they take Montero

It makes us better this year and likely next year

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I think this is the rub. Cards aren't willing to do this.

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Looks like the cardinals are on the hook for 27M this year, 22M next year and then 15M in 2027.

I'd hope they take montero and a prospect which would offset 11M for us and then maybe the cardinals cover another 5M this upcoming season.

That would mean we pay Arenado 11M this year. I feel like that would be a great deal

tjack16 said:

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tylhair said:

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Seems like the Arenado trade get more unlikely by the day.

I know many on this board are against it, but I thought it would make us better. I'm hoping for one final move to beef up the squad heading into the year.

The Brendan Rodgers acquisition was a nice little surprise that could work out really well.

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I'd be okay with the trade if a lot of his salary gets eaten by the cardinals and they take Montero

It makes us better this year and likely next year

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Agreed. I hope he would not be an everyday player, though. Espada should have an easy time rotating and resting guys with Walker, Paredes, Altuve, Dubon, maybe Rodgers, I assume Singleton, and another IF like Arenado.

That brings up a question. What would the roster look like if Dana did get Arenado? Would Rodgers or Singleton have a spot?

Roster locks- position players (10 at present):

• Yainer Diaz
• Victor Caratini
• Christian Walker
• Jose Altuve
• Jeremy Peña
• Isaac Paredes
• Yordan Alvarez
• Chas McCormick
• Jake Meyers
• Mauricio Dubn

Bench/platoon options (likely only 3 spots available):

• Ben Gamel
• Zach Dezenzo
• Jon Singleton
• Brandon Rodgers

Roster locks- starters (5)

• Framber Valdez
• Hunter Brown
• Ronel Blanco
• Spencer Arrighetti
• Hayden Wesneski

Roster locks- relievers (3):

• Josh Hader
• Bryan Abreu
• Tayler Scott

Reliever options, and some may be locks (5):

• Bryan King
• Kaleb Ort (discomfort)
• Forrest Whitley
• Shawn Dubin
• Rafael Montero

Bonus... pitching returnees at some point, hopefully (locks, if they do):

• LMJ (starter)
• Garcia (either)
• Javier (assume starter)
• France (may not be a lock)

Wesneski could move to the pen, I guess, and Blanco too if enough starters come back and pitch effectively. That would make the pen stout, IMO.

Anyway, back to Arenado. Not many spots available for another infielder. Who would back up Walker if not Singleton... Diaz, Dezenzo, or Dubon?

Taylor Trammell strained his right calf running the bases yesterday and is out for a bit.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) February 22, 2025

tylhair said:

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Seems like the Arenado trade get more unlikely by the day.

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Based on what?

From what I've gathered it's no more likely or unlikely.

the passage of time

Farmer1906 said:

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Postseason wins since MLB went to 30 teams in 1998:

113 NYY
77 HOU
73 LAD
69 STL
68 BOS
50 SFG
49 ATL
47 PHI
35 CLE NYM
33 TEX
29 DET
28 TBR ARI
25 KCR CHC
21 LAA
20 SDP
19 WSN
18 OAK
14 CHW MIL
13 MIA
11 SEA
10 TOR
9 MIN COL
6 BAL
3 PIT
2 CIN pic.twitter.com/FRfF89BklQ

— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) February 22, 2025

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Wonder what the breakdown would be on games played

Here are the pitchers who are slated to pitch today, per the Astros. pic.twitter.com/2SCXxrdSj5

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) February 22, 2025

Dubon and Chas both ground out on the first pitch of their at bats.

EastCoastAgNc said:

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Dubon and Chas both ground out on the first pitch of their at bats.

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Cintron for the win!

Aggie basketball on the TV, one astros game on the computer, the other on the phone.

Marvin said:

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I made it to the second batter of spring training before saying something bad about Cintron.

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Has he tried to fight anyone yet?

tylhair said:

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Aggie basketball on the TV, one astros game on the computer, the other on the phone.

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What about the Aggie baseball game?

you are right, need to find that iPad somewhere

Getting two different score notifications from two different games featuring the Astros is a weird feeling

Ketch

because McTaggert is reporting (team mouthpiece), this makes me think this is close to a done deal

texasaggie2015 said:

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Sources: Astros rekindling trade talks for Arenado, who might now be inclined to waive his no-trade clause for Houston (with ⁦@Feinsand⁩ & @JohnDenton555) https://t.co/uMjM4c3TWR

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) February 22, 2025

Once again… Ketch had it first.

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I want it

Aggie baseball on tv, Astros on iPad. It's a good day.

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In December, the Cardinals were willing to send $15-20 million to the Astros as part of the deal to help pay down Arenado's salary, sources said. The eight-time All-Star is set to earn $74 million over the next three years, though the Rockies are on the hook for $10 million as part of their 2021 trade with the Cardinals, while $12 million of the deal is deferred, bringing the present-day value of what he is owed to roughly $60 million. The money the Cardinals were willing to include would have brought the Astros' commitment down to roughly $40-45 million over three years.

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wcrew93 said:

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In December, the Cardinals were willing to send $15-20 million to the Astros as part of the deal to help pay down Arenado's salary, sources said. The eight-time All-Star is set to earn $74 million over the next three years, though the Rockies are on the hook for $10 million as part of their 2021 trade with the Cardinals, while $12 million of the deal is deferred, bringing the present-day value of what he is owed to roughly $60 million. The money the Cardinals were willing to include would have brought the Astros' commitment down to roughly $40-45 million over three years.

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So they can take Montero plus pay another 4-9 M over the next few seasons.

I wonder who we'd give up in this deal.

Farmer1906 said:

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I'm glad it might happen now. I've talked myself into it. Still gotta make sense money wise.

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I still effing hate it. It's like we need a washed corner IF at all times.

Things change

Farmer1906 said:

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MaxPower said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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I'm glad it might happen now. I've talked myself into it. Still gotta make sense money wise.

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I still effing hate it. It's like we need a washed corner IF at all times.

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"Washed" in this case is a relative term.

Offensively he should be above avg. defensively he should be well above avg. is that worth 3/74? Hell no! But if he costs us more like 3/45 (present day value plus Cards taking Montero & paying it down a little) then it's perfectly fine.

If it means we get Arenado ABs over Dubon ABs then it's a big win. It also helps the INF D which means Framber, Brown, & McCullers all got better.

I was against it when it meant we don't get Paredes or Walker. But we got them. This is gravy on top of everything.

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agreed. The folks in thread have had a head start thinking through this potential addition due to 2015.

The rest of the media and fanbase had no clue this could still happen.

Farmer1906 said:

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Arenado also supports my 3 year window idea.

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That gives you a core of Altuve, Yordan, Pena, Yainer, Arenado, Walker and Paredes to work around for three years. Most of the pitching is locked up as well for that time frame, except for Framber. That's a really competitive core for three years before new blood like Smith and Matthews take over.

Edit to add Yainer