***Official Houston Astros 2025-26 Offseason Thread***

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Signing Walker was his decision, but it is hard to criticize it - I thought it was a good deal at the time.

It's crazy that 2 big FA signings of first basemen have been so bad.

Abreu averaged a 140.6 OPS+ his last 3 seasons in Chicago and then promptly drops to an 87 OPS+ his first season here. His BA those 3 seasons with the Sox was .294 and suddenly he craters to .237 too.

Similarly, Walker's last 3 season in Arizona were a 122+ OPS and he craters to 97.

It's insane and inexplicable unless they suddenly got old all at once.


It's the risk of signing guys nearing 35 because you want to avoid signing younger guys to long term deals for double per year.

To be fair to Walker, I'm not 100% sure who he is yet. We'll know by the end of May who he is in my opinion.

LOL Abreu "nearing 35" ha ha ha!!!
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I have an insider telling me how the interview went.

"Hey Bruce. How are you?"

"Great. Thank you. I am thrilled for the chance to interview for this position."

"So Bruce, we just have one question. It's a big one and kind of important. We want you to be forthcoming here and nothing will leave this room."

"Got it. Ask away"

"You giving your sister in law the tube steak?"

"Yeah no. I don't have a sister in law. I don't have a brother or sister. I'm an only child and I'm not married."

"Great man! Job is yours!"
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There is always risk in acquiring players in their 30s. However, in Abreu's case there were some aigns of decline BEFORE we signed him. We just didn't think the bottom would fall out so fast.

Walker didn't show any signs of what we saw last year. His spray chart is a horrible match for Daikin (the anti-Paredes), but his fastball struggles last year were really something.
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B-Rabbit said:

SIAP




We have an Alvarez replacement for Alvarez
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Was this Alvarez a Dana guy?
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I think Abreu's back issues led to his rapid decline. He struggled out of the gates, but had a good rebound to end the year and had a good spring training the next season. And then he was done. Had to be more than just Father Time.

I think Walker will be fine. I'm interested to see if the foot tap improves his timing. The bat speed is still there. If he gets his average back up to around .250, holds steady in the counting stats, and can see a slight improvement in his K/BB ration, that'll be a nice bat in the lineup.

Question is, if Walker and Paredes are both producing, do you still trade one of them?
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Couldn't Yordan play left and paredes/walker dh
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Didn't he add arms this offseason with options?
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Josh Hader, Bryan Abreu, Steven Okert, Enyel De Los Santos, and Nate Pearson don't have options. Then there is Rule 5 pick Roddery Muñoz, so that's 6 out 7 spots.
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Iambob said:

Couldn't Yordan play left and paredes/walker dh


Yes, and Parades could likely play 2B, or even LF if we tried Altuve out there.

But if both Parades and Walker are raking, I'd rather keep both. In the playoffs, you can get them in the normal starting lineup.

I realize the reluctance to start Yordan in LF during the regular season, but it's the playoffs. You take that chance.
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Iambob said:

Couldn't Yordan play left and paredes/walker dh


You're assuming Yordan is going to play.
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TRM said:

Josh Hader, Bryan Abreu, Steven Okert, Enyel De Los Santos, and Nate Pearson don't have options. Then there is Rule 5 pick Roddery Muñoz, so that's 6 out 7 spots.


1. The bullpen has been a strength. Who gives a **** if they don't have options if they're good.

2. He did add Weiss, Burrows, & Teng. Plus King still has options.

3. Who gives a **** if Santos or Munoz get DFA'd? We only have them because they were free or unprotected.
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True. The question what if both are hitting. When in reality one of parades walker or Yordan will always be on the dl
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Walker played 154 games. How many did the others play?
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jja79 said:

Walker played 154 games. How many did the others play?

Only got a hit in 108 of them…
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I was replying to the guy commenting about him and the DL. He should have Yordaned the spring training injury and returned in early August and the board would love him.
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If Yordan is worth his contract, he should be in LF. Then you have the freedom to rotate Walker/Paredes at DH/1B and Paredes/Correa at 3B/DH.

Paredes and Yordan are in the supposed primes of their careers. I know both were hurt for a significant portion of the season last year, but they need to play a lot so you can figure out if they're worth the long-term commitment or just more brittle bones that need to go get hurt in some other city.
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Yordan is not being paid to occupy left field. He's getting paid for his bat. From '22-'24, he missed ~19% of the total games and was worth around 127 M per Fangraphs. Of the games played, he was in LF only 37% of the time.
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Yordan and Paredes should play because they're damn good players and give this team the best chance to win.

These guys are AS and MVP caliber players. We don't need to evaluate them. They're not rookies getting there first or second stint in the big leagues.
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I'm of the opinion that Yordan is the one we should be trading, not Paredes.
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Imagine we don't make the playoffs by a game or two and it's because they couldn't find a way to get Paredes in the lineup consistently due to stubbornness about Yordan having to be DH

Yordan in left is the only logical move if they don't move Walker or Paredes
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Farmer1906 said:

Yordan is not being paid to occupy left field. He's getting paid for his bat. From '22-'24, he missed ~19% of the total games and was worth around 127 M per Fangraphs. Of the games played, he was in LF only 37% of the time.

If he is being paid for his bat, you want him playing LF, because he hits significantly better when he plays LF.

Based on 834 PA in LF vs. 1,821 PA at DH):
  • Left Field (LF): .325 / .409 / .633 / 1.042 (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS)
  • Designated Hitter (DH): .286 / .381 / .558 / .939 (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS)
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tjack16 said:

Imagine we don't make the playoffs by a game or two and it's because they couldn't find a way to get Paredes in the lineup consistently due to stubbornness about Yordan having to be DH

Yordan in left is the only logical move if they don't move Walker or Paredes

Yordan is one of the best hitters in baseball (when healthy) -- and y'all want to trade him?? Losing him would gut this lineup. It already struggles with power and you want to remove one of the limited power sources?

I get his value is high, and we could get a lot for him. BUT -- I don't think we would get much immediate help to make up for the loss of Yordan's production.
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agproducer said:

tjack16 said:

Imagine we don't make the playoffs by a game or two and it's because they couldn't find a way to get Paredes in the lineup consistently due to stubbornness about Yordan having to be DH

Yordan in left is the only logical move if they don't move Walker or Paredes

Yordan is one of the best hitters in baseball (when healthy) -- and y'all want to trade him?? Losing him would gut this lineup. It already struggles with power and you want to remove one of the limited power sources?

I get his value is high, and we could get a lot for him. BUT -- I don't think we would get much immediate help to make up for the loss of Yordan's production.


Reread my post… nowhere in there did I say trade Yordan
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I think he replied to your post, but he was really objecting to the one above yours by Charlie Kerfeld.
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txags92 said:

I think he replied to your post, but he was really objecting to the one above yours by Charlie Kerfeld.

Yep. Grabbed the wrong post.
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I want to trade Yordan because he has too many injury issues and he's never taken the next step to elite run producer as a result. He missed more than 70% of the games in 2 seasons already, at ages 23 and 28, and 30% of the games in the season he was 26.

He'll be 29 in June. Does anyone think he's suddenly going to be a lot healthier as he heads to his 30s and starts playing 150 games a year? His career high is 147. And that's in a career when he's at zero risk to get hurt in the field 2 out of every 3 starts.


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txags92 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Yordan is not being paid to occupy left field. He's getting paid for his bat. From '22-'24, he missed ~19% of the total games and was worth around 127 M per Fangraphs. Of the games played, he was in LF only 37% of the time.

If he is being paid for his bat, you want him playing LF, because he hits significantly better when he plays LF.

Based on 834 PA in LF vs. 1,821 PA at DH):
  • Left Field (LF): .325 / .409 / .633 / 1.042 (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS)
  • Designated Hitter (DH): .286 / .381 / .558 / .939 (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS)


Fair, but the team very much believes playing less LF keeps him healthier. I'll take more PAs over fewer even if he's better in those fewer PAs.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

I want to trade Yordan because he has too many injury issues and he's never taken the next step to elite run producer as a result. He missed more than 70% of the games in 2 seasons already, at ages 23 and 28, and 30% of the games in the season he was 26.

He'll be 29 in June. Does anyone think he's suddenly going to be a lot healthier as he heads to his 30s and starts playing 150 games a year? His career high is 147. And that's in a career when he's at zero risk to get hurt in the field 2 out of every 3 starts.




I get your point -- and the injury worries are valid.

It's almost like a Mike Trout situation. When he's in the game, he's a game changer -- if he can just stay on the field.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

I want to trade Yordan because he has too many injury issues and he's never taken the next step to elite run producer as a result. He missed more than 70% of the games in 2 seasons already, at ages 23 and 28, and 30% of the games in the season he was 26.

He'll be 29 in June. Does anyone think he's suddenly going to be a lot healthier as he heads to his 30s and starts playing 150 games a year? His career high is 147. And that's in a career when he's at zero risk to get hurt in the field 2 out of every 3 starts.




He doesn't need to play 150 games a year to be great. Since 2019, he's 5th in Off (counting stat for batting and baserunning) yet 91st in plate appearances. What does that tell you? He's so dang good when he plays, it overcomes the time when he's out.

Yordan is a special player. Yordan's career wRC+ is 163. Wanna know what Bagwell's first 7 years were? 155. Berkman? 148. Biggio? 118. Altuve? 124. Springer? 124. Bregman? 139 Correa? 128. When he's on the field, he's the greatest hitter in Astros history. Only Bagwell is a little close.
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Again -- eff the Dodgers. This is just wrong.

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Doyers fans are some thin-skinned little *****es that can't get the Astros out of their head
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If you want to trade Yordan because he's not on the field enough, why do you expect a return worth moving him for?

(I'm using "you" generally - not directed at anyone specifically)
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