Yea it just seems anecdotal that the more you job hop the higher pay you have and right now pay needs to go to up

If playing the job hop game, I've always thought 2 years is a good length of tenure per job. Shorter than that and people will assume you were pushed out. But 2 years provides enough time to get settled, achieve a few things (mostly implementing some changes, systems, etc) but not long enough for the potential downsides of whatever you have done to kick in. If in a job for 5 years you'd have to actually start cleaning up your own messes without the ability to blame someone else.

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Yea it just seems anecdotal that the more you job hop the higher pay you have and right now pay needs to go to up

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Overall I'd say I agree. But I feel like some companies are trying to change that. My wife makes more than I do and has been with the same company for 12 years, major IT corporation. A few years ago they did a market check and gave her a 25%+ raise. Got 10% last year.

Now we've talked and the cynics in us as thought it could also be because she's a female and this international corporation wants to throw out the pay of their female employees vs male. Which still isn't a bad thing. But they've also encouraged all their employees to get on fish bowl and people talk about their salary pretty openly on there.

I work for a small business, but my boss doesn't think we don't talk to each other about our pay. I've gotten significant pay raises on a percentage basis but I also started off with a very low salary for a college grad. I make below average still honestly which is why I'm thinking of leaving. I had a whole track laid out for my career and such but every-time I meet a goal or whatever my boss tries to find a way to not keep his end of the deal. I'm pretty fed up honestly at this point. End of rant

Keep grinding that ax

So you're saying I should stay?

Weren't you just singing the praises of the company on the last page and now you sound like you hate it.

No, the only thing positive I would say about my job is that I have flexibility when taking off or if I need to leave to run an errand. Other than that I don't have many positive things to say

It's still a job seeker's market. Worth looking at your options and sharpening up those interview stories

Ok man thanks for your unsolicited input.

not hedge, i recommend at least interviewing at a few places to see what you could get. this is the time to do it. i was in the same boat. blind loyalty to your first employer. its not worth it in the end if you are not getting what you want out of the deal.

I've come to that conclusion last night, sucks but it is what it is. He wants all the glory and pay, fine. But he can take all the work I do for him now as well.

Something to think about with the recession word at the tip of the tongue; Last one in first one out is a thing (LIFO), and the new guy always gets a higher salary than the vets which could be an easy target for a layoff even though you just started.

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not hedge said:

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Yea it just seems anecdotal that the more you job hop the higher pay you have and right now pay needs to go to up

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Overall I'd say I agree. But I feel like some companies are trying to change that. My wife makes more than I do and has been with the same company for 12 years, major IT corporation. A few years ago they did a market check and gave her a 25%+ raise. Got 10% last year.

Now we've talked and the cynics in us as thought it could also be because she's a female and this international corporation wants to throw out the pay of their female employees vs male. Which still isn't a bad thing. But they've also encouraged all their employees to get on fish bowl and people talk about their salary pretty openly on there.

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You are actually questioning if corporate ESG is helping your wife get promoted in a STEM field? The answer is, "absolutely yes". Where have you been hiding that you haven't noticed this already? I've seen it going back to the 80's.