Natural Gas futures/prices

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JP_Losman
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Rig count and production have caught up after a brief halt and lag during the COVID downturn.

Oil will eventually do that same
DripAG08
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Based upon API and EIA data the oil wave seems to be upon us right now.
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JP_Losman said:

Rig count and production have caught up after a brief halt and lag during the COVID downturn.

Oil will eventually do that same


We'll see. I doubt it, but we'll see.
Cyp0111
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I'm not so sure about the numbers including the large adj. factors floating through the system. API printed big this afternoon but expect the EIA to be a smallish build given the massive adjustment factor from last week.

I think there is alot of noise in the data. I think products will lead the way and we are still critically low.


I think crude and gas are on different paths. Crude oil is getting harder to find in shale and we will continue to see GOR increase as we move down the acreage tiers.

I think crude will be pressured/range bound until early May. From that point, I struggle to see how output truly keeps up with demand.
txaggieacct85
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Futures up today. Im up 3.38% on my UNG purchase
Brian Earl Spilner
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BOIL with the solid recovery so far. Hoping to see 7-8 by Friday with the cold weather system coming in.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Since BOIL dropped from $44, 8 EMA was always under the 13 EMA. Today 8 EMA is trying to cross 13 EMA upwards.

$6.95 is 21 EMA level today on daily chart.
txaggieacct85
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UNG up over 8% now for me over the last month
Cyp0111
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tourists playing natty in end of winter/shoulder is one dangerous proposition.
2wealfth Man
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Good numbers and outlook from Range Resources yesterday.
Brian Earl Spilner
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NG wants $3.
txaggieacct85
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my UNG is up 16% in a little over a month. should have bought more. hindsights always 20/20
Brian Earl Spilner
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

NG wants $3.
$2.99....
Brian Earl Spilner
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$8 is the first stop on my BOIL profit ladder. Looks like that may hit today.

Man, feels great after that new low in February. Painful few weeks.
Franklin Comes Alive!
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So is the expectation for ng to keep climbing?

The giant glut hasn't gone anywhere, right?
Philip J Fry
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https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas
Brian Earl Spilner
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All of Friday's gains currently wiped out.

Based on the daily patterns we saw last week, might be a good chance to load up tomorrow morning.
atmtws
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Down 13% this morning to $2.63.
txaggieacct85
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I'm still up with UNG, barely. Bought more this morning
Cyp0111
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Do you trade natty for a living or is trading natty coming out of winter something to get the adrenaline flowing?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Why not just ask what you want to ask, since I'm sure you're smart enough to know trading natty for a living is a bad idea.
ThreeFive
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I'll say what I think he's trying to say. If this account is a gambling account, then go for it, because you're gambling on weather models at this point.

We're really over-supplied and it's a shoulder month. Supply isn't going to rapidly change and the cold weather models fell apart, hence the $.40 drop in price.
Brian Earl Spilner
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From where I'm sitting, it reads more like he wanted to come in here and spike the ball on a red day.
Cyp0111
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I didnt want to spike the ball on a red day. My questions was more centered around trading natty coming out of winter into the shoulder season given backdrop is a risky proposition. If you have some yolo cash in a gambling (trading) account then more power to you. If you need the cash for anything, I think there are much much better risk adjusted ways to play oil and gas.

I'll never spike the ball on a red day, I will spike on the concept if you think you have an edge.
Philip J Fry
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Historically speaking , March and April have been some of the best months to invest in. January is hands down the worst followed by February. Not sure why everyone thinks buying in now is a bad time.
txaggieacct85
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Philip J Fry said:

Historically speaking , March and April have been some of the best months to invest in. January is hands down the worst followed by February. Not sure why everyone thinks buying in now is a bad time.
I bought UNG on 2/10 and had a tidy gain until today, but I bought more today. I'm still up overall
Cyp0111
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bc anyone playing natty futures via an ETF needs their head examined.
Philip J Fry
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Yeah. Nearing a low only hit a handful of times in the past 25 years. Terrible time to buy. Outside of a personal attack, I haven't heard a valid argument against getting in at the low 2s.
Cyp0111
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Low is relative, we have incredibly too much gas for atleast the next 6 months , I think you can see further downside and the upside case is limited.
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I've got an opportunity to invest in a play in the Amoruso Field in Western Haynesville (Leon County). Does anyone have any experiences or war stories from that area? I'm evaluating it now and just curious.
txaggieacct85
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Examine your own head
Cyp0111
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I examine it daily as an investor in oil and gas...
ThreeFive
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Go listen to earnings calls from public's that are playing around over there. Then ask why they love to talk about the sustained production rates, but say it's too early to discuss costs. Maybe because they're north of $25MM and won't generate a good return at these prices.
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Philip J Fry said:

Yeah. Nearing a low only hit a handful of times in the past 25 years. Terrible time to buy. Outside of a personal attack, I haven't heard a valid argument against getting in at the low 2s.
Hard to compare historical's when we've never been able to grow supply as quickly as we can now. I'd say the argument is we responded way too aggressively to $6+ gas and it will take several months to drop rigs, release frac crews, and slow production. Given we're heading into summer months, near-term gas ETF's still have more down-side risk than up-side potential. I'd love nothing more than gas to rebound, but I don't see it happening in 2023.
Cyp0111
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yep. I think we see a bigger drop in rigs in Haynesville, gassier portion of Delaware, South Texas and EF.
 
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