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Realtors: Why the hell isn't this house selling?

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Excellent post, but I've got two problems with it.

1. Prices went up 40%+, not 20% (in Houston), so the problem is way worse than your chart shows.

2. The goal by the powers that be isn't for everyone to own a home. It's for a few people to own all the homes.
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Red Pear Realty said:

Excellent post, but I've got two problems with it.

1. Prices went up 40%+, not 20% (in Houston), so the problem is way worse than your chart shows.

2. The goal by the powers that be isn't for everyone to own a home. It's for a few people to own all the homes.
1. I noted I was being VERY conservative. The reality is that the all in payment on the house in that example today is probably north of $3,500.

The truth is, if you want buyers back and homes to start moving again in the middle class housing sector, that all in payment in that example needs to be $2,500 at the very most, and likely closer to $2,000.

To get $2,500, that house would need to be priced at $275k with a 5% interest rate. With rates where they are today, you're probably back to COVID prices.

Sure, there are buyers in the market will overpay today. Maybe they have to move. Maybe they got a huge raise in the last couple years. Maybe they inherited money. But to have a MARKET of buyers back, these prices have to be much lower.

And here's what people don't understand, including many Realtors..

Comps will not tell you that, as comps are lagging indicators of market value. That's because comps are representing the few houses that have sold, and since very few HAVE to sell, it's really only the ones getting their price. But the transaction volume is down and will continue to be. If demand were to meet supply, it could only do so back at COVID housing prices. And since the comps don't start falling until sales start getting realized at lower valuations, you won't know it's happening until it's too late.
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It'll sort itself out.
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It would. If it wasn't constantly being meddled with.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Cromagnum said:

Is the market just completely ass right now? Had a house on the market since September and had several viewings and a few open houses. Zero offers. Did a pretty good price drop at start of year. Few more viewings and still no offers.

Only one in our neighborhood has sold in the last few months but it was a POS, and priced like one.
Interest rates, taxes, and insurance have all gone up dramatically. For someone in an entry level home, their cost to own a home is up over 50% since 2020, and that's the most conservative estimate.

Below shows a $250k house in 2020 with 5% down payment, 3.5% interest rate, taxes at 3% of home value, and insurance at 1% of home value. That same home, valued at $300k today (which is likely low), 6.5% interest rate (likely low), taxes at 3% of value, and insurance doubling (might even be low), costs more than 50% than it did in 2020. The yearly cost of just payment, taxes, and insurance is the equivalent of a full year of working for $17.50 an hour. This while everything else they have to allocate money toward from their energy bill, grocery bill, car insurance, you name it.. is all up significantly.

There just aren't enough people willing to buy at these prices. Either wages have to go up dramatically, home prices have to drop dramatically, interest rates have to drop dramatically, or the amount of homes for sale has to drop dramatically. And none of those will happen in a vacuum with one or more happening at the same time feeding a vicious loop that keeps the others from making things better. The only things that can change this market are a massive rise in wages, or a significant correction in home prices. Because we aren't going back to 3.5% all in interest rates.

Take your guess which one is likely to happen.




I agree with you, but I do think prices will continue to come down. People know what the market was a few years ago and think they can still get those prices.
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Patience....

Something will give eventually. Be ready.

(I know in Houston, on average, its cheaper to rent than buy. Between taxes, insurance, maintenance, and interest, those numbers are higher than the average rent payment. So, even with the equity, you are better off putting that equity amount in the market and renting something slightly below your means).

Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone's financial and family circumstances.

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OMG. Why don't they stage the house already and take new pictures? It'll make a world of difference.
Diggity
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you're not wrong over there.

I just looked at the rental market and folks are getting a little over a buck a foot to rent.

That barely covers the P&I with 10% down.
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Staging would not make a difference to me. The primary bedroom upstairs is an absolute NO for me.
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Quote:

Comps will not tell you that, as comps are lagging indicators of market value. That's because comps are representing the few houses that have sold, and since very few HAVE to sell, it's really only the ones getting their price. But the transaction volume is down and will continue to be. If demand were to meet supply, it could only do so back at COVID housing prices. And since the comps don't start falling until sales start getting realized at lower valuations, you won't know it's happening until it's too late.
This is great commentary. I look at all of this like stocks. Volume proceeds price. Volumes have been down for some time in real estate. Prices coming down is next.
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Sold at $368k with buyer paying 1/2 closing and 1/2 HOA fees
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SteveBott
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What, if any, changes/comcessions/updates did you do to help sell the house?

Edit: see the price drop of 21k
 
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