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Why is it that all of the golf influencer video images look identical? Scrolling through YouTube you'd think it's just a bunch of videos from the same people.

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Wouldnt be shocked if many share the same producing team

MW03 said:

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My opinion on Koepka did a 180 after Full Swing on Netflix. This only helps that.

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That's been the case for several guys. Bryson and Phil especially. I just assumed the PGAT vilifying some golfers was more along the lines of a planned wrestling persona / scheme. But now that some of these guys get to show people who they are after shunning the PGAT, I'm starting to think they didn't get a say and it wasn't a fair deal by the PGAT.

It's been "interesting" watch the PGA tour continue to avoid the social media space at the expense of the golfers. While a career journeyman, Wesley Brian hinted that they expected to get a PGA reprimand for doing a fairly benign Youtube behind the scenes at the Farmers. It seems he's pretty much decided to play as many PGA tournaments as possible, but focus on social media as his path forward.

With Rory and JT and Hoffman now making an effort to try and get the guys to be more outgoing, personable, and in front of the camera it seems they're having to take the lead as the PGAT is refusing to do so.

Mr.Bond said:

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Thisguy1 said:

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Why is it that all of the golf influencer video images look identical? Scrolling through YouTube you'd think it's just a bunch of videos from the same people.

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Wouldnt be shocked if many share the same producing team

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I believe a couple of the bigger Youtube personalities got smart and turned their production staff into a business doing so for others. If you watch some of the content there's multiple camera people and professional editing on short turn arounds being done for a lot of these. Small time guys can't bankroll a production staff and it pays for the staff of the big guys.

And if by identical you mean the content looking professional and being polished, I guess. The vast difference in their personalities is what sets them apart. I can't get into some and really enjoy others. But if the production is ameteur hour, it isn't going to last long.

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Mr.Bond said:

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Thisguy1 said:

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Why is it that all of the golf influencer video images look identical? Scrolling through YouTube you'd think it's just a bunch of videos from the same people.

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Wouldnt be shocked if many share the same producing team

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I believe a couple of the bigger Youtube personalities got smart and turned their production staff into a business doing so for others. If you watch some of the content there's multiple camera people and professional editing on short turn arounds being done for a lot of these. Small time guys can't bankroll a production staff and it pays for the staff of the big guys.

And if by identical you mean the content looking professional and being polished, I guess. The vast difference in their personalities is what sets them apart. I can't get into some and really enjoy others. But if the production is ameteur hour, it isn't going to last long.

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I took that to mean like the YouTube thumbnail/image before you open it. I could be wrong though.

Thisguy1 said:

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Why is it that all of the golf influencer video images look identical? Scrolling through YouTube you'd think it's just a bunch of videos from the same people.

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I think the large part of it is straight up copying successful channels that are getting views, but I've also heard a couple of Shiels' podcasts about how they might play into the algorithm youtube uses to promote videos. Bob Does Sports has talked about it a little bit, too. Apparently, similar thumbnails and video looks can get a channel following the wake of a successful video and in the algorithm so that it's suggested to viewers prone to watch it.

I was just thinking that the other day actually. The cutout of someones face over a background of the course and some title. These are all different accounts. Is this just the current optimized way that marketing people have determined drives the most clicks?

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AgLA06 said:

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Mr.Bond said:

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Thisguy1 said:

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Why is it that all of the golf influencer video images look identical? Scrolling through YouTube you'd think it's just a bunch of videos from the same people.

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Wouldnt be shocked if many share the same producing team

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I believe a couple of the bigger Youtube personalities got smart and turned their production staff into a business doing so for others. If you watch some of the content there's multiple camera people and professional editing on short turn arounds being done for a lot of these. Small time guys can't bankroll a production staff and it pays for the staff of the big guys.

And if by identical you mean the content looking professional and being polished, I guess. The vast difference in their personalities is what sets them apart. I can't get into some and really enjoy others. But if the production is ameteur hour, it isn't going to last long.

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I took that to mean like the YouTube thumbnail/image before you open it. I could be wrong though.

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This. It's different golfers usually standing there crossing their arms, same bright colors everywhere, seemingly same big font, etc.

You'd think they're all content from the same account.

4 different accounts, 6 different videos, almost all identical.

It's absolutely optimized for clicks. In fact, a lot of time you'll see A/B testing happening on videos in the first couple hours of release where you see a different thumbnail being used to see what gets better engagement. It leads to "convergence" on the best thumbnail.

Rick Shiels "Considered the godfather of golf youtube by everybody currently on the platform" has told all these guys thumbnails and titles can make or break a video. There's clearly a formula being used

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Rick Shiels "Considered the godfather of golf youtube by everybody currently on the platform" has told all these guys thumbnails and titles can make or break a video. There's clearly a formula being used

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That. And what the average person sees as different people is actually a group that started together or has collaborated with all the rest. They may have different accounts, but most you just posted are tied to gether in multiple ways.

Looks interesting.

https://instagr.am/p/DF2wek3sU7Q

Great episode. I didn't have somebody outplaying Bryson on my bingo card but GC might have done just that.

https://www.instagram.com/peoplesleaguegolf/reel/DF3RSASP87e/

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For the Peoples League, founding members, who are all receiving equity in the league at no cost, range from former professional golfer turned social media star Luke Kwon (who won the PGA Tour's Creator Classic) to rapper Ja Rule, who has become an avid fan of the sport in recent years. There will be prize moneyspecific amounts to be announced laterpaid out to teams on a season-long basis, and individually each week through skills challenges.

At the outset, there will be four teams of three:

• Team 1: Martin Borgmeier, DOD King, Alexa Melton
• Team 2: Luke Kwon, Sam Heung Min, and Tooms Golf
• Team 3: Ja Rule, Snappy Gilmore, and Claire Hogle
• Team 4: Jenna Bandy and The Pointer Brothers (Henry and Mike)

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I watch a lot of YT Golf and I only know a handful of these people. I also didn't know Ja Rule was into golf these days.

98Ag99Grad said:

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The BDS episode with the guys from Spittin Chiclets is great. Check that one out if you can

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The **** talking was epic so was the collapse by BDS

Mr.Bond said:

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98Ag99Grad said:

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The BDS episode with the guys from Spittin Chiclets is great. Check that one out if you can

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The **** talking was epic so was the collapse by BDS

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Both on par for them.

98Ag99Grad said:

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The BDS episode with the guys from Spittin Chiclets is great. Check that one out if you can

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Whit is a gamer, holy ****. Some of those putts were clutch and he made it look easy. He might want to go to a doctor and get that leaky faucet checked out though.

Right? How many times was he caught on camera behind a tree??

Y'all should check out golf girl games. They are pretty entertaining. fantastic golfers and they seem to really want to win the challenges. They do a humiliation punishment instead of a prize.

They just popped in my algo. They're pleasant on the eyes too. They'd sure kick my as s on the course. They can golf their ball

The main girl Sabrina is just too annoying for me. I tried because cute girls in short skirts playing golf is a great concept but just can't make it through an episode.

RogerFurlong said:

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Y'all should check out golf girl games. They are pretty entertaining. fantastic golfers and they seem to really want to win the challenges. They do a humiliation punishment instead of a prize.

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I have watched some of their videos and envy the fluid swings and short game finesse. One of the regulars played for U KY and another guest played at MS State.

For U Tube in general, how is it monetized? I know there are advertisers who pay to have their clip aired and I suppose for a "channel" with a lot of subscribers the ad rate would probably be higher, but how much would a channel owner make per release? I suppose that if I was that good at golf and bad at engineering, I too would make U Tube videos. As it turned out, I am not that good at golf so I chose to stick with engineering.

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Today was rough. Too many guys who could fall into multiple categories

Our next 2v2. Coming tomorrow. Who you taking? pic.twitter.com/NZ2E3glLBH

— Grant Horvat (@GrantHorvatGolf) March 2, 2025

Phil and Grant should roll those 2.

Break 50 with 3 good golfers, still hard to do but...meh.

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Our next 2v2. Coming tomorrow. Who you taking? pic.twitter.com/NZ2E3glLBH

— Grant Horvat (@GrantHorvatGolf) March 2, 2025

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Grant loves to d ride Phil.

Yep..their shtick in this series is kind of annoying to me.

I enjoyed watching them try to putt on these rough greens.

wyoag77 said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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Y'all should check out golf girl games. They are pretty entertaining. fantastic golfers and they seem to really want to win the challenges. They do a humiliation punishment instead of a prize.

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I have watched some of their videos and envy the fluid swings and short game finesse. One of the regulars played for U KY and another guest played at MS State.

For U Tube in general, how is it monetized? I know there are advertisers who pay to have their clip aired and I suppose for a "channel" with a lot of subscribers the ad rate would probably be higher, but how much would a channel owner make per release? I suppose that if I was that good at golf and bad at engineering, I too would make U Tube videos. As it turned out, I am not that good at golf so I chose to stick with engineering.

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There's a ton of variables to how people monetize their YouTube. I have channel with 3,700 subs that makes around 8 cents per hour of watch time. That varies too. YouTube handles the ads but big subs means big viewers and the YouTube algorithm is more likely to suggest your video to non-subscribers. And potentially more cents/hours watched.

But at 8 cent it ads up. The Grant/Phil/Daly video has already done 1.2 million views. times 41 minutes, with viewers watching maybe 25% of the video, that's over $16k just in YouTube ad revenue already. Probably more.

If they watch the ad, you get paid. If they skip the ad, you get paid less. I suppose an advertiser could seek out a channel, but mostly they're seeking out demographics and interests and YouTube is just matching the advertiser to your viewing history.

If they click through the ad and actually buy something, you'll get a commission. As near as I can tell we've only ever had one ad-based commission. And I have no idea what the product was or who the ad was for. One day we just had a video that typically earned pennies per day suddenly make $10, with no spike in actual viewers.

Aside from what they get paid by YouTube they also have direct ads in the videos themselves/channel sponsors, paid memberships, and commissioned product links in their video descriptions.

Mickelson is a snowflake when it comes to anyone who isn't a d rider. I always liked Phil but as I got older he kind of soured on me with him always being the smartest person in the room. One of his reasons for LIV was his perceived value of NFTs as a 20 billion market and the PGAT owning that value and not the players and we have seen how that went over like a lead balloon with that program being sunset recently.

LOL...Phil being Phil. His "FIGJAM" persona is well-earned.

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Thank you for the explanation….always wondered how it worked. Is your channel golf related.