Who cares? The fans don't. And the pga tour surely shouldn't give the Liv guys a sweetheart deal to come back bc the pga tour now pays out alot more in prize money. A $1 million dollar fine isn't even a slap on the wrist. It's a pat on the back.

I'm not saying it should be a sweetheart deal, but it needs to be a deal that gets Bryson/Rahm back on tour ASAP.

This fan watches WAY less golf each week because these fields are laughable. Yes, LIV is responsible for that, but the PGAT can take the high road and get pro golf back to a place that's better for the fans, which is putting out the most competitive field possible week in, week out.

I honestly don't watch less golf now and none of my friends do either. That's anecdotal but the pga ratings certainly aren't suffering, so I don't think there are many people like you who don't watch much anymore. But the non signature fields are laughable bc of liv and how many signature events the pga tour now has.

If you let them back in with a pat on the back, there is no reason for them not to do the same thing in 5 years if a rival league pops up. There should be ramifications, especially since they turned down the generous offer that was made earlier.

Agreed on that 2nd paragraph. I would also add on, if Bryson and Rahm are indeed that good, they will have no problem playing their way back on to the tour in short order.

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I honestly don't watch less golf now and none of my friends do either. That's anecdotal but the pga ratings certainly aren't suffering, so I don't think there are many people like you who don't watch much anymore. But the non signature fields are laughable bc of liv and how many signature events the pga tour now has.

If you let them back in with a pat on the back, there is no reason for them not to do the same thing in 5 years if a rival league pops up. There should be ramifications, especially since they turned down the generous offer that was made earlier.

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The generous offer of Brooks Kopeka being 4th alternate while Alex Fitzpatrick plays. 5 time major winner hopes someone doesn't show, but a guy who played won a team event with his brother has a full card for 2 1/2 years.

Tour will be fine without Bryson and Rahm moving forward. Based upon ratings, things are going pretty well.

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Tour will be fine without Bryson and Rahm moving forward. Based upon ratings, things are going pretty well.

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And while this is true I bet nearly every current PGAT player is thankful for the benefit LIV provided them whether they will publicly admit it or not. A little competition almost always makes organizations grow, adapt and get better. I don't blame a single player for taking the bag to go to LIV, they were making decisions for them and their people that made it worth it to them at the time.

All of this "path back" "punishment" etc. is just emoting and posturing. Those guys on LIV lined their pockets and by proxy those of the ones who stayed loyal to the PGAT. The PGAT would still be the out of touch dinosaur it was a few years ago without competition.

Alex finished 9th that week, so don't act like he's some scrub.

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class of 03 said:

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Tour will be fine without Bryson and Rahm moving forward. Based upon ratings, things are going pretty well.

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And while this is true I bet nearly every current PGAT player is thankful for the benefit LIV provided them whether they will publicly admit it or not. A little competition almost always makes organizations grow, adapt and get better. I don't blame a single player for taking the bag to go to LIV, they were making decisions for them and their people that made it worth it to them at the time.

All of this "path back" "punishment" etc. is just emoting and posturing. Those guys on LIV lined their pockets and by proxy those of the ones who stayed loyal to the PGAT. The PGAT would still be the out of touch dinosaur it was a few years ago without competition.

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It wasn't competition. It was a trust fund kid spending its parents' money without any rhyme or reason.

Tomato tomahto accomplished the same thing

I was one of the original LIV cheerleaders...mainly because I like chaos and wanted to see something different. I doubled down when the media started screaming blood money and Brandel would bleed all over t.v. any chance he got. That said, it definitely made golf worse. LIV sucked.

I got my chaos, lots of guys, including PGA players got paid a lot of money and now I just want good golf back. There's no secret that the road to a tour card and then keeping said card is really the most interesting thing about the PGA tour. The daily grind these guys go through just to keep it together and finish in the top 150 is insane.

I'm definitely in favor of LIV guys earning their way back on tour if they don't have any status left over. That's the beauty of the game and i'm here for it.

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mavsfan4ever said:

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I honestly don't watch less golf now and none of my friends do either. That's anecdotal but the pga ratings certainly aren't suffering, so I don't think there are many people like you who don't watch much anymore. But the non signature fields are laughable bc of liv and how many signature events the pga tour now has.

If you let them back in with a pat on the back, there is no reason for them not to do the same thing in 5 years if a rival league pops up. There should be ramifications, especially since they turned down the generous offer that was made earlier.

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The generous offer of Brooks Koepka being 4th alternate while Alex Fitzpatrick plays. 5 time major winner hopes someone doesn't show, but a guy who played won a team event with his brother has a full card for 2 1/2 years.

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Yeah Brooks could have won that event with Lowry but they didn't. Sure Matt made an insane bunker shot so they could win, but Alex carried his share of the load that weekend with some great golf. Then finished 9th last weekend. Kid can play and was well on his way to earning a card on the DP tour this year.

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I just can't believe he would abandon his home countries tour to play overseas for more money. I wonder what his punishment will be if he ever decides to go back.

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wangus12 said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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I honestly don't watch less golf now and none of my friends do either. That's anecdotal but the pga ratings certainly aren't suffering, so I don't think there are many people like you who don't watch much anymore. But the non signature fields are laughable bc of liv and how many signature events the pga tour now has.

If you let them back in with a pat on the back, there is no reason for them not to do the same thing in 5 years if a rival league pops up. There should be ramifications, especially since they turned down the generous offer that was made earlier.

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The generous offer of Brooks Koepka being 4th alternate while Alex Fitzpatrick plays. 5 time major winner hopes someone doesn't show, but a guy who played won a team event with his brother has a full card for 2 1/2 years.

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Yeah Brooks could have won that event with Lowry but they didn't. Sure Matt made an insane bunker shot so they could win, but Alex carried his share of the load that weekend with some great golf. Then finished 9th last weekend. Kid can play and was well on his way to earning a card on the DP tour this year.

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I just can't believe he would abandon his home countries tour to play overseas for more money. I wonder what his punishment will be if he ever decides to go back.

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He didn't abandon anything. He can have dual membership on both tours.

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RogerFurlong said:

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I just can't believe he would abandon his home countries tour to play overseas for more money. I wonder what his punishment will be if he ever decides to go back.

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He didn't abandon anything. He can have dual membership on both tours.

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Hmm. Dual memberships. Play whichever tour you want. What a concept.

Let's go Majesticks!!!! This is YOUR time.

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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I just can't believe he would abandon his home countries tour to play overseas for more money. I wonder what his punishment will be if he ever decides to go back.

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He didn't abandon anything. He can have dual membership on both tours.

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Hmm. Dual memberships. Play whichever tour you want. What a concept.

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LIV is dead. No reason to keep beating it up for its draconian contracts which mandated that all players play in every LIV event, no exceptions.

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RogerFurlong said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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RogerFurlong said:

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I just can't believe he would abandon his home countries tour to play overseas for more money. I wonder what his punishment will be if he ever decides to go back.

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He didn't abandon anything. He can have dual membership on both tours.

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Hmm. Dual memberships. Play whichever tour you want. What a concept.

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LIV is dead. No reason to keep beating it up for its draconian contracts which mandated that all players play in every LIV event, no exceptions.

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I know it upsets you someone fell for the obvious setup there, but let's not just make stuff up. Phil hasn't played on LIV in months.

Phil has taken a leave of absence akin to an injury. But LIV's rigid contractual requirements have been outlined numerous times.

Lav: "Bryson is daring the PGAT to go on without him. This is a high stakes game of chicken… the Tour can go on without him."

Eamon: “I think he’s lost all sense of reality…he still thinks he has negotiating power..”

Can the Tour go on without Bryson? pic.twitter.com/A5Nk6Kd1c1

— NUCLR GOLF (@NUCLRGOLF) May 6, 2026

Bryson is full of crap most of the time such as The Masters is a Par 67 golf course.

Bryson has done well for himself in the YouTube space. But watching a 30 second daily clip of a guy trying to hit a hole in one over his house bears little resemblance to watching final round coverage of a tourney. It assumes a lot to conclude that just because people tune in for that, they'll tune in to watch him on the PGAT. I mean, his YouTube stuff clearly didn't translate to a LIV audience.