Covid19 (CoronaVirus) San Antonio

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Halconblack said:

Unfortunately, the question is becoming more and more about the value of life at different ages. The data continues to present that this is a very difficult virus of the old and the invalid. Meanwhile, the young and able are extremely susceptible to the financial strains caused by the austere recommendations that many are calling for. I am afraid that preventing the able body people in this country from having jobs and spending money will lead to much more dire circumstances than letting the virus run it's course through that population.

I firmly believe that all nursing homes, long term care facilities, ICUs and surgical facilities should be locked down and decon measures should be followed. I think three-foot social distancing, washing your hands and self-isolating if you are sick is the appropriate measure to avoid absolute disaster. Because, there is no bailout from the economic hardship this country will endure if we do what Dallas is doing through June.



EDIT: Please read my whole post before assuming where it's going, I'm not saying what it may seem like at first.

That's what is so "interesting" about this. For the people who are by far the most at risk (sick and elderly), the precaution is "keep doing what you're doing". Stay in, have medical care, take sanitation seriously. It's a hard way to say it, but a lot of these deaths seem like if CV didn't do it, the flu or an underlying condition would have within a few months.

Of course, there's a large swath who will die without ventilators, that's where the rubber really hits the road.

And then you have the younger crowd. For the most part they will be sick for a few days and recover just fine, but they have the least financial security and are being asked to make the largest financial sacrifices and deviate the most from their lifestyles.

I'm not saying we're doing the wrong thing, but I understand why such a big disconnect seems to be opening up. The bigger these economic impacts get, the worse the long term outcome gets. Increasing income is inversely correlated with life expectancy and high risk behaviors. It's tough.
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From the CV forum: 50% of patients in ICU in both France and Italy were under 60.

Just because it is fatal to the elderly doesn't mean younger people don't get it. And of those who become ill, a % end up in the ICU.
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And, horror of horrors, they have closed the cigar lounges at Finks and Club Humidor.
The person that is not willing to fight and die, if need be, for his country has no right to life.

James Earl Rudder '32
January 31, 1945
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Little Woodrows Stone Oak was packed last night for St. Patrick's day. I left around 7 and there was already well over 100 people there.
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88planoAg said:

From the CV forum: 50% of patients in ICU in both France and Italy were under 60.

Just because it is fatal to the elderly doesn't mean younger people don't get it. And of those who become ill, a % end up in the ICU.

This. Geez....just let the olds die....Some very callous commentary on here.
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Also ordering the closing of "non-essential" commercial businesses. This seems ... draconian. How many people did we just put out of work?
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San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg issued a fourth emergency declaration Wednesday, ordering non-essential businesses to close amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The declaration goes into effect at 11:59 p.m. Wednesday.

The city's restaurants, bars, gyms and other commercial businesses must shut their doors indefinitely as officials seek to stop the spread of the virus.

Pharmacies, grocery stores, gas stations, and other essential businesses will remain open.
Restaurants will be allowed to serve customers through drive-thru, delivery and pick-up orders.
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Watch-Live-San-Antonio-mayor-provides-update-on-15141248.php
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LawHall88 said:



How do you define essential at this point?
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I'm guessing he is targeting most retail establishments that don't sell food or household goods, but yeah, that's a tough one, plus it could be devastating for small businesses.

Can I buy dog food from anywhere other than HEB now?
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LawHall88
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So the restrictions aren't as bad as I feared.
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LawHall88 said:

I'm guessing he is targeting most retail establishments that don't sell food or household goods, but yeah, that's a tough one, plus it could be devastating for small businesses.

Can I buy dog food from anywhere other than HEB now?
Come to Boerne, we have 2 pet stores
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Bad news: We're still on the "It's going to get worse" side of the curve

Good news: We're on a war footing with a common directional goal. We're in a human ingenuity phase that's seeing some amazing things happen (One vaccine already in trial phase in record time). Stay isolated. Stay safe. Order delivery. It's not a matter of "if we win", it's "when we win".
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I am not arguing with the caution, I'm just curious what gives the city the authority to order certain places to close. Is it because they operate under a license granted by the city? Maybe this belongs on the Politics board.
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Glad we're making moves to protect our community. Too many people out partying on St. Patrick's day and not listening to the precautions. With limited testing we have no idea how widespread this thing already is in town.
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I assume liquor stores fall under the essential business category?
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ag01insa said:

I am not arguing with the caution, I'm just curious what gives the city the authority to order certain places to close. Is it because they operate under a license granted by the city? Maybe this belongs on the Politics board.
The emergency orders do, at least the verbiage of the order as written does.
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Ob/gyn doctor at North Central Baptist Hospital has tested positive. They think she got it on a recent visit to Colorado.
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SoTxAg said:

Ob/gyn doctor at North Central Baptist Hospital has tested positive. They think she got it on a recent visit to Colorado.


She been seeing patients since she got back from Colorado?
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LCE said:

I assume liquor stores fall under the essential business category?
I just purchased my self isolation stock if it comes to that, Twin Liquors on 281.
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Supposed to get high temperatures in the 90s by mid week - let's kill some viruses!
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Shelter in place will be announced tonight
MookieBlaylock
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Fing idiots causing panic again

Halconblack
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With respect to the Shelter in Place, my business is exempted by at least two different types. I will continue to go to the office, wash my hands, and maintain appropriate distance.

https://www.sanantonio.gov/Portals/0/Files/health/COVID19/Website%20Docs/Emergency%20Declaration%20No.%205.pdf?ver=2020-03-23-175107-393
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Same here. We do most of our business in Comal county but some in Bexar and some in Hayes.
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Terrell Hills unaffected by tyranny.
Good Bull Jones 17
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I have a hard time believing April 9 is going to come around and they will lift the shelter in place. I have a bad feeling about this.
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Pinche Abogado said:

Terrell Hills unaffected by tyranny.


All 5 businesses in Terrell Hills rejoice in freedom.
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we are essential so we are full force. You can't shut construction or contractors down. especially when you work for the utility, water, hospitals, and food sources.
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Does anyone know if Home Depot or Lowes will still be open tomorrow?
The Dog Lord
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Seor Chang said:

Does anyone know if Home Depot or Lowes will still be open tomorrow?


Yes
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Lawn crews and pool guys all over my hood
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I'm still working but have been remote. Can't see customers but still managing. My niece works for a title company In Schertz and is still working??
Lawn guys and cleaning companies in my neighborhood today as well.
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Yeah, real estate is considered essential believe it or not.

I'm still working.
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p_bubel said:

Yeah, real estate is considered essential believe it or not.

I'm still working.
No open houses though.
 
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