anything short of the sweet 16 and...

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aggies1960 said:

Sweet 16 talk is madness


Is it…. March madness?
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I hate these posts. Baylor won a national championship with the worst arena in the worst town in America. Quit saying we dont support basketball. We support football but the results are worse. Why is that?
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Digital_Java said:

Buzz is getting out recruited, not outcoached. Find a real athletic director who can build an elite NIL collective and the rest will take care of itself.

Not if no matter how much you pay they don't want to play in your coaches system.
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Just Tired said:

i'm a very casual basketball fan (far behind football and baseball for me) but has indiana fallen so far they would actually want buzz? (and just avoiding abject failure is not equivalent to a downtown parade... or maybe that is the current standard for aggie athletics.)

if potentially knocking the sips out of the bubble doesn't matter, why watch any of them?


Buzz's ****ty coaching just put tu in tbe tournament and tore their ticket up. Not sure Indiana wants him
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Shooting matters in basketball.

If Buzz can't recruit or develop offense, then the ceiling isn't very high.
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Just Tired said:

czar_iv said:

We are too limited on offense to get to the weekend; I wouldn't put my money on it.
nor would i but if it doesn't happen this year, there is no reason to believe it will ever happen under buzz.
It could happen, but our roster talent doesn't say it is a high probability.
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Dimond1968 said:

Buzz isn't going anywhere. The guy has done things few Aggie basketball coaches have ever done. It's been a great season.

Started out great. Very quickly moving back to the mean.
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BaytownAg13 said:

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Tobias Funke said:

Hey is this the mass suicide group? Oh it is? Great! Just came by to remind you guys that everything's ok and this game didn't matter.
BAS Rationale


It's not BAS, this game truly didn't matter. Everyone is letting the fact that this was against tu cloud their judgment. We have a week until we play again as a 3 seed(!) in the tournament. The outcome of this game has no bearing on that.


Ding' ding! Ding!

If that was against candy the s gat in here would be way less

Let's enjoy the week of rest we get now and gear up for the real tournament



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Most teams would kill to have a 3 seed in the tournament. Only 12 teams are a 3 or better. That is the definition of a good, if not great, season.

Now if we don't do anything in the tournament or somehow drop to a 4 because of this loss, then we can have this conversation.
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amercer said:

Shooting matters in basketball.

If Buzz can't recruit or develop offense, then the ceiling isn't very high.
Honestly I don't think Buzz cares about recruiting; he just wants decent players with high character that he can mold into a good to great team.
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This season is already a failure. Choking at the end of the season, choke job in SEC tourney, probably choke in NCAA tourney. This team is inconsistent and lacks the guts and shear will power to overcome adversity.
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NyAggie said:

BaytownAg13 said:

Bassinagfan said:

Tobias Funke said:

Hey is this the mass suicide group? Oh it is? Great! Just came by to remind you guys that everything's ok and this game didn't matter.
BAS Rationale



It's not BAS, this game truly didn't matter. Everyone is letting the fact that this was against tu cloud their judgment. We have a week until we play again as a 3 seed(!) in the tournament. The outcome of this game has no bearing on that.


Ding' ding! Ding!

If that was against candy the s gat in here would be way less

Let's enjoy the week of rest we get now and gear up for the real tournament





There is no way in heck we remain a 3 seed. We played ourselves right out of that. Hope for a 4 seed and do not act like you didn't see it coming if we are a 5.
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The funniest part about all of this is that people think that Indiana is interested in Buzz. His style of basketball at Indiana would be a nightmare. It's almost as if a lot of you have zero clue about college basketball.
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Y'all don't know very much about basketball
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

The funniest part about all of this is that people think that Indiana is interested in Buzz. His style of basketball at Indiana would be a nightmare. It's almost as if a lot of you have zero clue about college basketball.

Don't care where he goes. I'm just tired of his lack of ability to recruit high end talent or see it where others don't and the resulting style of play he must coach because of the lack of said talent.
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Dark_Knight said:

This season is already a failure. Choking at the end of the season, choke job in SEC tourney, probably choke in NCAA tourney. This team is inconsistent and lacks the guts and shear will power to overcome adversity.


It literally isn't. Good lord this thread sucks
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Will we still host??
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aggieland28 said:

This is insane. I love when people decide to watch one game and forget the entire season. Didn't we just beat number 1 in the nation a week ago? When's the last time we did that?


And that's all we are good for plus losing the bottom feeders
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2nd Generation Ag said:

I hate these posts. Baylor won a national championship with the worst arena in the worst town in America. Quit saying we dont support basketball. We support football but the results are worse. Why is that?


What are you talking about? What does Baylor or their arena have to do with the history of our program?

Everything I said was (almost) correct. We've been to the S16 6 times in about 110 years. We've been to the tournament only 16 times total. We don't put $$$ and attention and resources into basketball like we do even in baseball.

So just to claim it's S16 or utter failure without knowing the matchups, the seed or anything is CRAZY. You can hate that all you want, but you are just wrong.

I'm not saying it's wrong to want us to make the S16 and to think we probably should this year - I feel that way for sure. But for that to be the expectation and anything else, no matter what, is total failure, it's just not rooted in any facts.

We should expect this team to be one of our most successful teams ever, based on roster, experience, etc. But we aren't a team with the talent and pedigree to just dominate our first two games and walk into the S16, so if we don't, it somehow invalidates the rest of the entire season? Hell, I think this loss today could be more of a bad mark on the season than a loss in the R32, because we don't know anything about those games yet.

Look at Baylor's recent history in the NCAAs! They won a NC and haven't made it past the first weekend since.

In 2010 and 2012 when they made the Elite 8, they only had to play a 14, 10 and 11 seed to get there both times (as a 3 seed)!

Using the NCAA tournament for the hard-line barometer for success of failure for a program of our level is just silly, because it can be such a crap shoot. If we are a 3 seed and lose in the first game, yeah that's a failure. If we then play the 11 seed and lose, that's probably a failure as well.

But if we lose in the R32 to a 6 seed that isn't a great matchup for us, that makes the other 30 games a complete failure? Come on man.
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aggieland28 said:

This is insane. I love when people decide to watch one game and forget the entire season. Didn't we just beat number 1 in the nation a week ago? When's the last time we did that?


We've lost five of seven and Auburn wasn't exactly geared up for our game. This team is limping into the tourney
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taylorswift13_ said:

Auburn game aside, what I can't comprehend is how a team with 8 seniors is playing like this to end their collegiate and for most their basketball careers


They weren't that good of a group. Radford was the best player and he's gone.
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Ag_EE_88 said:

I'll be surprised if we make it to the sweet 16. Early in the year we were playing well and thought we'd make it. Not so much, right now
We beat the number one team in the country last week.
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FTAG 2000 said:

aggieland28 said:

This is insane. I love when people decide to watch one game and forget the entire season. Didn't we just beat number 1 in the nation a week ago? When's the last time we did that?


We've lost five of seven and Auburn wasn't exactly geared up for our game. This team is limping into the tourney
Wasn't geared up for our game? Get out of here with that garbage. They are still playing for the No. 1 overall seed.

Would you say Texas was more "geared up" for our game today because they are fighting for a tournament spot and we did not have much to play for?

If you are going to make that dumb argument, apply it both ways.
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Let me explain again. We use the excuse that we dont support basketball. Baylor didn't either and won a national championship because they ran a good program with a good coach.

Neither has bama, auburn and Texas tech. But yet they are all better than us. Because they have a competent organization.

If I use your theory on football because they have all the resources and has yet to finish in the top 25 in 4 years

My point is our organization sucks. There are no excuses.
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We will rinse and repeat for next year
We won't make sweet 16
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pasquale said:

We will rinse and repeat for next year
We won't make sweet 16


Let's see the matchups first, but our inconsistency on offense is prime for an upset against a lower seed in the tourney unfortunately
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Fquin said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

The funniest part about all of this is that people think that Indiana is interested in Buzz. His style of basketball at Indiana would be a nightmare. It's almost as if a lot of you have zero clue about college basketball.

Don't care where he goes. I'm just tired of his lack of ability to recruit high end talent or see it where others don't and the resulting style of play he must coach because of the lack of said talent.


You're right. Let's hire back another Billy Kennedy type and be absolute dog**** 80% of the time. That'll show em!
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Leander - Ag said:

Agree. He can walk. Getting out coached by RT twice is criminal


If he's bringing in more talent then I want to see what he can do. My biggest concern is the lack of development of players. This team is a bunch of dawgs who grind as one unit. But not the most fundamentally talented group.
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Ok yes I agree with you on almost all of those accounts. And also we are talking about different things.

I'm talking about the current expectation of S16 or bust for A&M basketball and saying, if someone takes that stance, they are saying that if we don't equal our best season ever in 110 years, it will be a failure, and that's crazy. It's a wild over-expectation in a given season that is very unfair based on the past and current level of the program.

You are saying (I think), that we should do more to get more out of the program to raise the level of expectation, because other football/baseball schools in our region have done so without sacrificing the other big sports.

And that I 100% agree with. Other that commitment, I don't feel like there are any factors holding us back from being at the same general level as Bama/Auburn/Florida/Tennessee.

Still have to hire the right guy and get the talent, but there is nothing those schools have that we don't, other than a higher commitment to basketball than us.
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Just Tired said:

i'm a very casual basketball fan (far behind football and baseball for me)....

I stopped reading after this...
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Zachary Klement said:

FTAG 2000 said:

aggieland28 said:

This is insane. I love when people decide to watch one game and forget the entire season. Didn't we just beat number 1 in the nation a week ago? When's the last time we did that?

Argument isn't dumb just because you don't agree with it. Auburn had already done enough to hold on to the overall #1 seed and will still be the #1 overall seed after losing to Alabama.

We've lost five of seven and Auburn wasn't exactly geared up for our game. This team is limping into the tourney
Wasn't geared up for our game? Get out of here with that garbage. They are still playing for the No. 1 overall seed.

Would you say Texas was more "geared up" for our game today because they are fighting for a tournament spot and we did not have much to play for?

If you are going to make that dumb argument, apply it both ways.
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

Fquin said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

The funniest part about all of this is that people think that Indiana is interested in Buzz. His style of basketball at Indiana would be a nightmare. It's almost as if a lot of you have zero clue about college basketball.

Don't care where he goes. I'm just tired of his lack of ability to recruit high end talent or see it where others don't and the resulting style of play he must coach because of the lack of said talent.


You're right. Let's hire back another Billy Kennedy type and be absolute dog**** 80% of the time. That'll show em!

Your revisionist history and use of hyperbole (80%) is pathetic. Buzz has hit his ceiling and now it's hitting back. If you're ready for Barone esk basketball in the near future, by all means, hold on to Buzz. That'll show everyone.
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Who would we hire, that would actually come to A&M, that would be better than Buzz?
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aggieland28 said:

This is insane. I love when people decide to watch one game and forget the entire season. Didn't we just beat number 1 in the nation a week ago? When's the last time we did that?
And then immediately turn around and lose to a non ncaa tourney team. What's insane is how Jekyll and Hyde this team is. We better not draw a 14 seed with a pulse.
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Zachary Klement said:

Ag_EE_88 said:

I'll be surprised if we make it to the sweet 16. Early in the year we were playing well and thought we'd make it. Not so much, right now
We beat the number one team in the country last week.
And you probably think Auburn was really trying to win that game
 
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