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My silver lining to us losing was knowing 2nd Gen Ag would have a Debbie Downer post locked and loaded to go as soon as the game ended.

I appreciate your commitment to being negative and continuously pissing in everyone's cornflakes.

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He's not wrong, though. Just because you don't want to admit it, doesn't mean it's not true.

Texas A & M said:

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Our last coach, who we fired, accomplished more in less time than Buzz. The idea that we can't find a coach who can make a Sweet 16 in 6 years is hilarious because Billy Kennedy did it twice

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What about the other seasons? BK recruited but that is it

MisterJones said:

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In college, it's two things now: coach & NIL

Our program has a long way to go in the latter. Buzz is fine, but obvs not as good as some of those other hires by comparison.

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NIL, or the lack thereof, had nothing to do with losing this game. There is no excuse for allowing what happened to happen. No excuse. At the moment, I feel like I'm reliving the Turgeon years…enjoyable seasons wrecked by exiting the tournament in the second round.

2nd Generation Ag said:

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I am not negative just stating the facts. I just dont understand how Aggie fans cant be accountable. You cant get better until you are accountable for where you are. WE are not a well run organization. Never have been

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Ding ding ding!

czar_iv said:

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Buzz disappointed me in our tournament play. After seeing Payne's play so well in the tournament, I ask why didn't we prepare him and the team to use Payne more? Smh, Buzz just seems to have zero clue about offensive basketball. Then he has that crazy junk defense. Buzz is a great leader maybe the best leadership qualities of any A&M coach but damn he almost just ignores the offensive side of the ball.

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This!!!!

I was screaming at the screen - MORE PAYNE!!!

Instead we throw up a 30' 3.

czar_iv said:

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Texas A & M said:

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Our last coach, who we fired, accomplished more in less time than Buzz. The idea that we can't find a coach who can make a Sweet 16 in 6 years is hilarious because Billy Kennedy did it twice

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What about the other seasons? BK recruited but that is it

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He won the same number of NCAA tournament games in those other years that Buzz has won in his. Zero. But in the 2 years he won tournament games, same number of years as Buzz, he won twice as many. Not following your argument.

Too Chains said:

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I'd also like to add we've had this alleged roster of the decades this year stacked with seniors and transfers. This is all we got. Buzz ain't going to be able to be reload next year and we'll be ass anyways. If there's a better option out there, take it at this point.

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Let's take it! Who, and how? What great basketball coach wants to come to A&M?

Also, why stop there?
...is Elko Really the "best option" out there too?

When are we going to hire a coach whose ambition and desire is to win a national championship at A&M. Until we hear that ftom a coach then we will continue to live in mediocrity.

Texas A & M said:

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Our last coach, who we fired, accomplished more in less time than Buzz. The idea that we can't find a coach who can make a Sweet 16 in 6 years is hilarious because Billy Kennedy did it twice

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i would not want BK back as a coach regardless of his two sweet sixteens. now if we could bring him back as a recruiter we might be on to something.

I get what you're saying. Rome wasn't built in a day, but this Caesar ain't getting us there. Especially the year it's supposed to happen. I'm not Mr. Albert's but I'd be vetting options at least.

Unless we magically portal reload, you're effectively starting over anyways next year.

2nd Generation Ag said:

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6 years ago when he was hired these schools had the same issues. Minimal history of good basketball and support, no real tradition, nothing

Auburn
Bama
Tenn
Baylor
Texas Tech
Texas A&M

How would you rank these schools today? We are dead last.

The coach is everything. It isn't the school

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Buzz did beat a couple of those teams head to head.

It's time to pull the plug on the entire athletic program.

RightWingConspirator said:

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It's time to pull the plug on the entire athletic program.

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What does that even mean?

Pumpkinhead said:

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Message board meltdown time! Hello to the rival schools now browsing here.

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Worried about the wrong things.

Chris Beard! Get him now!

Fen911 said:

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Chris Beard! Get him now!

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In 1 year he took Arkansas Little Rock as far in the tourney as Buzz has is in 6 years.

Took tech to an e8 in year 2, national runner up in year 3.

Texas to r32 in year 1, which was as far as they had been in the prior 14 seasons. His team in year 2 made the e8, which was probably an underachievement if he would have been there.

Ole miss to the s16 in year 2, which is only the 2nd time they've been there in their entire history.

His resume is unreal. Only question at this point is if Beard would want the job.

I don't especially feel entitlement or desire to be better than we are right now.

The question is whether our athletic department and the university administration have any clue what they are doing. I believe the answer is clear as a bell but draw your own conclusions.

Our answer has been to throw MAJOR money at our coaches and give them ludicrous buy outs when they don't measure up. And speaking of measuring up, we don't reward or penalize performance so we get middle-of-the-road results with unimaginable salaries.

And I was ridiculed when I suggest Bruce Pearl and Kelvin Sampson as go-to coaches. Aggies have this angelic moral code and until the second coming will be on-guard to keep anybody who made a mistake in purgatory until that time.

EXCELL said:

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The question is whether our athletic department and the university administration has any clue what they are doing.

Our answer has been to throw MAJOR money at our coaches and give them ludicrous buy outs when they don't measure up. And speaking of measuring up, we don't reward or penalize performance so we get middle-of-the-road results with unimaginable salaries.

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Does this imply the existence of athletic programs that are consistently lowballing their way to success?

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Fen911 said:

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Chris Beard! Get him now!

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IOnly question at this point is if Beard would want the job.

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Our eternal solution has been to throw ridiculous money out there.
Beard would come if we continue to do that because he knows he's good for 6 years here no matter what he does. Could Melvin Watkins be a better example? He's the poster boy for you-can't-get-fired at A&M until the Pacific Ocean evaporates.

njohn87 said:

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EXCELL said:

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The question is whether our athletic department and the university administration has any clue what they are doing.

Our answer has been to throw MAJOR money at our coaches and give them ludicrous buy outs when they don't measure up. And speaking of measuring up, we don't reward or penalize performance so we get middle-of-the-road results with unimaginable salaries.

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Does this imply the existence of athletic programs that are consistently lowballing their way to success?

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Not really, but there's no reward program in our pay structure for coaches. They should make HUGE money when they meet specific performance criteria. And they should make a base minimum only when they don't meet those same criteria.

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Texas A & M said:

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Our last coach, who we fired, accomplished more in less time than Buzz. The idea that we can't find a coach who can make a Sweet 16 in 6 years is hilarious because Billy Kennedy did it twice

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Exactly. People here think we've somehow progressed as a program. We haven't, period.

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The last 2 HCs (Kennedy, Buzz) were not as successful as as Gillispie and Turge, but all were a lot better over the last 20 years than the previous 20 (dark ages). We've made the NCAAT 55% of the time (11/20) with 3 Sweet 16s.

That's a lot better than Auburn's recent history when they hired Bruce Pearl.

I think we could land a Richard Pitino or Beard.

The Aggie's will never ever hire someone like beard, name the last time the Aggie's went and hired one of these coaches with baggage? Like beard or pearl or will wade or even sark? We value the squeaky clean image over winning. I wish just once we would take a flyer on one of these second chance coaches and see what happens. I'm talking in the big 3 sports here

Thought BU has Drew as a coach well before 6 yrs ago, no (it was in early 2000s? It took Drew awhile to get a natty, but he made BU rather competitive quickly I vaguely recall (or I'm mis-rembering).

Ol Miss "ONLY" had Beard due to tu having to fire him due to improprieties ... he has baggage.

Yes, our fanbase has turned to win no matter what and sort of get it (if all the other schools going to win with scumbags and there are plenty as Oats is a ******, Pearlman is questionable, Beard now has questionable history, Drew Scott early in his career was known for paying a top price for players (but that's ok now), etc etc).

Personally like Buzz and his moral compass, but don't like his offense (always relaying on a 1 superstar to always be hot...never has enough true playmakers and shooters for my liking) and think his preaching should be left until he retires from the game (he can transition to the pulpit when he leaves the game). I get developing 'men' (and important), but need to win more in the tournament and be sweet 16 or better almost every year (and was a huge let down this year w his best team).

Improprieties? It's complicated to say the least. Beard made the mistake of choosing the wrong woman and chose to defend himself against her instead of just leaving. Decision was made by the university president ultimately and the reason was a pissing contest where the president was simply unhappy that Beqrd wasn't contrite enough and didn't adequately bend the knee to the me too movement. How dare he defend himself from being attacked.