Today a diehard horn coworker wore his t.u. polo to work because he's so pumped about Schloss. I should note he is generally a respectable and good dude, not one to blindly support unethical dealings, but this got me to thinking…if we had done this to them how would I feel?

As much disdain as I have for the sips, I could never feel proud of A&M for dealing in such a bad faith and duplicitous manner. I would have a hard time supporting the program going forward. Maybe it's just because I now have my own kids coming of age and I'm trying to instill character in them, but the older I get the more I buy into the cliches about integrity meaning more than winning.

15 years ago I would have thought it was worth any price to stick it to the sips, but nowadays I'm content to just let them enjoy their arrogance and condescension while holding myself, my kids, and my university to a higher standard of integrity.

(This is not to say A&M never has or will act in poor form…the way Mike Sherman was fired comes to mind…but I'm comforted that any such dealings are widely met with disapproval from the Aggie community at large)

Slimey

They blindly support an evil, corrupt, and cheating school. I don't understand how these otherwise decent people can support t.u.

There is nothing redeeming about the school.

About 10 years ago on the football board, I said I'd rather lose every game with a team of honest hardworking Aggies that love this school, than win a natty with 5 star mercenaries for hire. I was berated. Seems that NIL has helped push some of the fan base back to the former. Guess that's one good thing to come of it.

Honestly - I'd be hoping like hell it paid off because there will be no asterisks in the record books, but if it goes bad it will be tremendous egg on our face

If we stole tu's coach who had just led them to the championship and his all-star coaching staff(not to mention having a shot at his MLB-level players), we'd be over the moon. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.

There's a reason I never thought about going to Texas. Not to think like they do or do things like they do is at the top of the list.

The national media is crucifying them over this one.

I've had horns admit to me they're not proud of it....and that's RARE as you know. I would not feel good about it...certainly wouldn't be talking **** about it like some have, or wearing a grin about it. They're trash and always will be. There's simply no debate on which school wins in the character or moral compass battle.

I'd wonder what the impending lawsuit would cost the university.

I said this in another thread but not one of my sip-grad friends are proud of it. One said he was ashamed and I think had an eye opening experience into how slimy tu actually is.

If we did it exactly the same way as this transpired I would actually hate the hire. Because a person willing to do that to current employer and coach of men would do it again down the road. But to get someone else's coach and hire them away in a normal manner for college athletics I would have not as much of an issue with it.

If anything comes from this I would love to see where it a coach breaks his contract with another institution then the players cannot follow them. And I would say the same if we got a coach and his players were not allowed to follow

To be honest, I don't think we'd want a sip coach. I've been thinking about this exact thing the last few days. To me, anything from there is tainted. I recall after Jimbo, people talkin about Mack Brown. Hell no... why would we ever take anything from cow.

Honestly, that'd be it for me.

While often frustrated with us coming short I have always loved how our players and coaches (for the most part) in the sports I love carry themselves.

To me there is such thing as an honorable loss and a dishonorable win. texas may very well have won the day on this one, but they sure as hell have not improved their standing in college sports long-term.

The Marksman said:

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If we stole tu's coach who had just led them to the championship and his all-star coaching staff(not to mention having a shot at his MLB-level players), we'd be over the moon. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.

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This is simply not true. Sark just played in the CFP. I don't want him, I don't want Ewers or Manning. A&M is perfectly capable of becoming whatever we want to be without having to poach from sip. I didn't want Mack Brown after they won their championship, I just wanted to beat their ass more.

I don't think it's very complicated. We headhunt a coach from t.u. I'd be happy. We do it in such a fashion to leak info we are planning that during their national championship game, and give any impression whatsoever we encouraged their coach (and staff) to work on our behalf while on their payroll, I would be ashamed of Texas A&M.

We're better than that. And I have to say I have a gut feeling the average Longhorn thinks they are better than that too.

The Marksman said:

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If we stole tu's coach who had just led them to the championship and his all-star coaching staff(not to mention having a shot at his MLB-level players), we'd be over the moon. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.

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NOT IF he was recruiting for us while they were in the the championship, and he lied about it.

Embarrassed. I'd be wishing we did it the right way.

losing a great coach hurts, losing a great coach who betrays you by negotiating wit your rival during the cws is bs. if the rolls were reversed i would have reservations about the integrity of the coach and how he would screw us over in the future. definitely red flags with schloss after this even for longhorn fans. and that is saying something.

This is their FRAN…. I can't wait to watch it burn.

If it played out exactly the same in reverse…incredibly slimy and honestly scared as hell that all the shady dealings would be found out and it'd all be blown up at any moment.
I'd also feel incredibly cheap; like we just essentially bought our rivals entire team because we couldn't build one capable of beating them straight up.

I would actually be waiting for our school to get the death penalty

Coaches leave all the time. They give evasive answers or full support of their current team all while negotiating with another school. They are all in until the minute they are hired away. That has always happened an is nothing new. Its part of sports in general. I am not mad that a coach left.


It's the manner that he left that gets me. Doing all of this while coaching in the CWS, dressing down Zane after game 3, accepting the new job 5 hours after returning home, lying and claiming that no talks were had until after game 3, the timing, everything.

If we did those things, I would be upset. Aside from making the university look bad, it would be unethical and against the core values we instill at A&M.

I have several sip friends that are highly disappointed and embarrassed about the situation. Anyone with ethical values should feel the same.

I'm saying this with all honesty....I have never wanted any coach of theirs, even the legends...
I just thought any man that wants to coach and be a part of that corruption, aerogance, lying, and filth program is not a man I could follow here.
Every Texas coach I have ever witnessed has had a douchy arrogance about them that has never sat well with me. And that is the absolute truth. It's just something about them and that program. They are always a certain type of "used car salesman" individual. That is who they are as a school and that is the type they hire. Any good and honest person that is hired there never lasts, and there is a good reason why they dont.