*****Aggies @ Vanderbilt - Thursday*****

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We got beat in a Vandy bullpen game with Prager on the mound.
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histag10 said:

Wabs said:

The Marksman said:

Trev is going to have a decision to make at the end of the season, and I'm not sure it shouldn't be a fairly easy one...


To me it's a very easy decision. Any cemeteries near the Alabama campus?


Wasn't he on our list this last year, and he essentially made it clear he wanted to stay in Tuscaloosa? I remember his name being brought up a bunch because of his connection to the area and A&M


We interviewed him. He said no thanks.
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histag10 said:

Captain Pablo said:

histag10 said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….


It's also possible that Earley is a great hitting coach, and Longley isnt...


If that's the case Early should have taken over 10 games ago

He's the boss


I don't disagree.

A lot of people have said wonderful things about Earley as a hitting coach (not just our current players).

At this point, I have to think Longley is the issue

But that point, you have to trust your staff to an extent. It's the same reason I wish Elko had taken over defense this past football season, but apparently didnt.
Go watch tu from the last few years and I think it's clear he is the problem.
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histag10 said:

Captain Pablo said:

histag10 said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….


It's also possible that Earley is a great hitting coach, and Longley isnt...


If that's the case Early should have taken over 10 games ago

He's the boss


I don't disagree.

A lot of people have said wonderful things about Earley as a hitting coach (not just our current players).

At this point, I have to think Longley is the issue

But that point, you have to trust your staff to an extent. It's the same reason I wish Elko had taken over defense this past football season, but apparently didnt.


Yeah I'm not happy about our head coach having to take over defensive play calling. Especially from the sideline

He's doing it because he has to
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0-4 SEC start and outscored by a combined score of 19-9
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Sgt. Schultz said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

Team has no edge. Jace was awake early but rest of the team is sleepwalking. Everyone looks like they are waiting for somebody to do something.


There is no player leadership. That seems abundantly clear at this point.



NIL cruise control will do that.
We had big NIL guys last year who were real leaders. Can't blame NIL IMO.
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We may not win 6 more games the rest of the year, this teams is that bad right now and zero line of sigjt things will get better. Amazing how far they have fallen. Will end up close to dead last in the sec.
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You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.
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Yes. The batting is terrible, but so is every other facet of the game - including game management. This looks to be an extremely poorly coached team all around. Hitting coach may be bad, but there are plenty of other facets of the game that are similarly bad.
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powerbelly said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….
He absolutely was, and has an excellent track record as a hitting coach. He is elite in that role.


Was he? Or was the dictation by the head coach on how the offense should be handled, coached, and controlled the main influence?

I am not saying I know the answer but we ought to begin asking the question
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powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

Team has no edge. Jace was awake early but rest of the team is sleepwalking. Everyone looks like they are waiting for somebody to do something.


There is no player leadership. That seems abundantly clear at this point.



NIL cruise control will do that.
We had big NIL guys last year who were real leaders. Can't blame NIL IMO.


Cruise control because no Schloss. He didn't let players cruise control and helped them maintain their edge.
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GymBroFisher said:

You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.
The players should have zero input.

I think Earley has what it takes, but we are really going to have to see programmatic improvements in year 2.
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GymBroFisher said:

You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.


It's clear he isn't the guy.
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GymBroFisher said:

You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.


You know what's not a good look? Unanimous pre season #1 finishing dead ass last in the SEC.
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Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….
He absolutely was, and has an excellent track record as a hitting coach. He is elite in that role.


Was he? Or was the dictation by the head coach on how the offense should be handled, coached, and controlled the main influence?

I am not saying I know the answer but we ought to begin asking the question
Do you know his track record? Look at what hitters say about him from his time at ASU.
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the Ags' run scoring standard deviation is off the charts

17 runs on Tuesday...3 runs on Thursday

so thru 21 games...

six times...12 or more runs

twelve times...4 or fewer runs

only three times...A&M has scored between 5 and 11 runs (inclusive)
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GymBroFisher said:

You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.


Unbelievable
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OA_02 said:

If we don't get it together, then we need to fire Earley as soon as it's clear we aren't making the post season. This cannot continue. This may be the most underperforming team we've had in the big 3 men's sports in over 25 years. And that's saying something for us.
didn't.

Nah. Don't let recent years make you forget the Fran/Sherman years, or the later Turgeon years, or Kennedy. Or last year in football. Or the past 5 years in football. Or 2012 baseball. Or 2021 baseball....

We have a long history of epically underwhelming performances
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OA_02 said:

Yes. The batting is terrible, but so is every other facet of the game - including game management. This looks to be an extremely poorly coached team all around. Hitting coach may be bad, but there are plenty of other facets of the game that are similarly bad.
We have been bad all around, but if we were at least a competent hitting team we would have 5-6 more wins.
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powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

Team has no edge. Jace was awake early but rest of the team is sleepwalking. Everyone looks like they are waiting for somebody to do something.


There is no player leadership. That seems abundantly clear at this point.



NIL cruise control will do that.
We had big NIL guys last year who were real leaders. Can't blame NIL IMO.
and 7th ranked portal class on d1... i'm not sold this is a talent issue, which to be honest would be an easier fix than where my head is at now.
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powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

Team has no edge. Jace was awake early but rest of the team is sleepwalking. Everyone looks like they are waiting for somebody to do something.


There is no player leadership. That seems abundantly clear at this point.



NIL cruise control will do that.
We had big NIL guys last year who were real leaders. Can't blame NIL IMO.


It's not blaming NIL. It's NIL without accountability. Not taking money from guys but it's clear the assumed dudes never felt any fear about their status. I felt like under Schloss every guy was playing for their job every day.

This seems like fall ball mentality that slid into "oh ****" that slid further into "what do we do" and now we're ****ed.
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W said:

A&M falls to 11-10

situation not good
Think we can get to 20 wins? It should be close.
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Bondag said:

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How many pitchers did they use? We have full bullpen tomorrow.
Three. All threw 40 or more pitches so unlikely to see any of them tomorrow and probably only available for a batter or three on Saturday depending upon efficiency.
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GymBroFisher said:

You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.


Wrong

You keep him if he demonstrates a reason to keep him

"Not a good look" is not a reason to keep him
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RED AG 98 said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

Team has no edge. Jace was awake early but rest of the team is sleepwalking. Everyone looks like they are waiting for somebody to do something.


There is no player leadership. That seems abundantly clear at this point.



NIL cruise control will do that.
We had big NIL guys last year who were real leaders. Can't blame NIL IMO.
and 7th ranked portal class on d1... i'm not sold this is a talent issue, which to be honest would be an easier fix that where my head is at now.
We are in a perfect **** storm of issues. Guys with track records of success underperforming, injuries, new manager getting a feel for the game, and maybe the sloppiest fielding I have ever seen.
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powerbelly said:

Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….
He absolutely was, and has an excellent track record as a hitting coach. He is elite in that role.


Was he? Or was the dictation by the head coach on how the offense should be handled, coached, and controlled the main influence?

I am not saying I know the answer but we ought to begin asking the question
Do you know his track record? Look at what hitters say about him from his time at ASU.


I know the track record and hitters at ASU saying they liked him. I also see with my own eyes.
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powerbelly said:

W said:

it's just shocking how mediocre the transfer players are -- outside of Henseler

who recruited and evaluated these guys?

they are bad
These were guys everyone (including the POS in Austin) wanted.
are we sure about that?

other teams wanted them...but at a certain price point
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powerbelly said:

GymBroFisher said:

You don't fire Earley unless you have a replacement lined up, and only giving a brand new head coach 1 year isn't a good look. He has 3 major injuries to start the season to deal with.

Trev needs to give it a look at the end of the season if things god really bad. Maybe talk to some players. But 1 bad season isn't a great reason to fire a coach unless you are sure he isn't the guy.
The players should have zero input.

I think Earley has what it takes, but we are really going to have to see programmatic improvements in year 2.


Why do you think "Early has what it takes"?
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Earley was brought in to do 1 thing: win the championship. If not, then get really damn close.

The thought process behind it was to keep the roster together. Hoping that the "jimmies and joes" could overcome the "Xs and Os". It looks like that isn't going to happen.

We gave it a shot, and so far it's a complete failure. It sucks. Cut bait at the end of the year and bring in someone who can coach.

If we somehow squeak into the postseason, flame out, and use that to justify keeping him around for the next year(s), we will set the program back decades
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Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….
He absolutely was, and has an excellent track record as a hitting coach. He is elite in that role.


Was he? Or was the dictation by the head coach on how the offense should be handled, coached, and controlled the main influence?

I am not saying I know the answer but we ought to begin asking the question
Do you know his track record? Look at what hitters say about him from his time at ASU.


I know the track record and hitters at ASU saying they liked him. I also see with my own eyes.
What did you see the last 3 years? It's fair to doubt Earley as a manager, but not as a hitting coach.
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powerbelly said:

Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….
He absolutely was, and has an excellent track record as a hitting coach. He is elite in that role.


Was he? Or was the dictation by the head coach on how the offense should be handled, coached, and controlled the main influence?

I am not saying I know the answer but we ought to begin asking the question
Do you know his track record? Look at what hitters say about him from his time at ASU.


Just know that any kool aid that is poured out is because it's good for business.
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histag10 said:

Wabs said:

The Marksman said:

Trev is going to have a decision to make at the end of the season, and I'm not sure it shouldn't be a fairly easy one...


To me it's a very easy decision. Any cemeteries near the Alabama campus?


Wasn't he on our list this last year, and he essentially made it clear he wanted to stay in Tuscaloosa? I remember his name being brought up a bunch because of his connection to the area and A&M

Depends on who you ask. I've been told that and I've been told we didn't even bother trying to interview him.
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He was an elite hitting coach before he ever worked for POS.
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powerbelly said:

RED AG 98 said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

powerbelly said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

Team has no edge. Jace was awake early but rest of the team is sleepwalking. Everyone looks like they are waiting for somebody to do something.


There is no player leadership. That seems abundantly clear at this point.



NIL cruise control will do that.
We had big NIL guys last year who were real leaders. Can't blame NIL IMO.
and 7th ranked portal class on d1... i'm not sold this is a talent issue, which to be honest would be an easier fix that where my head is at now.
We are in a perfect **** storm of issues. Guys with track records of success underperforming, injuries, new manager getting a feel for the game, and maybe the sloppiest fielding I have ever seen.


A&M should not be the place where "new managers get a feel for the game"

Seriously your posts on this subject really are pretty ridiculous
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powerbelly said:

Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Bunk Moreland said:

powerbelly said:

Come Out Roll said:

powerbelly said:

I never would have expected the team to look so lost at the plate with our hitting coach still in the ballpark.

This observation should convince anyone with a brain cell that Earley was NOT our hitting coach….that may have been his title, but he damn sure wasn't THE hitting coach….
He absolutely was, and has an excellent track record as a hitting coach. He is elite in that role.


Was he? Or was the dictation by the head coach on how the offense should be handled, coached, and controlled the main influence?

I am not saying I know the answer but we ought to begin asking the question
Do you know his track record? Look at what hitters say about him from his time at ASU.


I know the track record and hitters at ASU saying they liked him. I also see with my own eyes.
What did you see the last 3 years? It's fair to doubt Earley as a manager, but not as a hitting coach.
And if it wasn't Earley then who was it? Because that's who pos said it was and that's who he wanted in Austin...
 
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