*****Aggies vs. LSU - SEC Tournament Quarterfinals*****

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Chrundle the Great said:



For anyone interested, I found the full play, go to 8:24.

Royo is outside the lane for most of his run and then is re-entering it for the last two strides, not exiting it. So by rule, illegal run to set up the possibility of interference and then he hit the 1b glove to seal it. Out.

The rules contemplate the runner being outside the lane, but being outside must be the cause of the interference which it wasn't in this case because he was inside when the ball hit him. It was a bad call and even the announcers whittled it down to whether being on the chalk was in or out. They didn't know the answer. Chem94's post clearly shows Royo was in the lane when the interference occurred. BAD CALL that very likely determined the outcome.
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Ag1188 said:

Jace speaks super highly of Coach Earley and Texas A&M…




Of course he did.
Players liking the coach isn't the issue. It's the coach knowing what he is doing is the problem
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That statement assumes that players are unable to recognize a good coach, and that they prefer a "friend" over success. I highly doubt that to be the case. I would bet on this hypothetical- If Earley could go back to the first game of the season but with the experience he now has, we would win 15+ SEC games.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

That statement assumes that players are unable to recognize a good coach, and that they prefer a "friend" over success. I highly doubt that to be the case. I would bet on this hypothetical- If Earley could go back to the first game of the season but with the experience he now has, we would win 15+ SEC games.

Just because you suggested the hypothetical….. how do you explain getting swept by Missouri in the second to last series?
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Chrundle the Great said:



For anyone interested, I found the full play, go to 8:24.

Royo is outside the lane for most of his run and then is re-entering it for the last two strides, not exiting it. So by rule, illegal run to set up the possibility of interference and then he hit the 1b glove to seal it. Out.


I believe you're misreading the rule. There has never been a requirement to be in the running lane for the final 45 feet. That rule is only invoked if there is interference. And I've never seen interference called for hitting the glove. It's only called when the ball hits the runner. Royo was in the proper lane with both feet when the call was made.
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Question. Why did the runner have to go back to third on the interference? It was a dead play? Where is that in rule book?
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I can't. I simply think that Earley had to learn in real time how to be the decision maker of talented team with a spotlight on them. He likely learned a little more about the flow of the game as it relates to pitcher/batter use, and the importance of the strategy needed. He likely recognized not to assume the defense will make the right decisions and know their assignments.

I feel confident he can do significantly better next year. I do think he needs a new pitching coach.
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A is A said:

Question. Why did the runner have to go back to third on the interference? It was a dead play? Where is that in rule book?


If you don't know that rule then stop complaining about getting screwed by umpires or officials in any sport. The rule has been explained and anyone that follows baseball would know you don't get to advance on interference or else everyone would do it to get the run in
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Wicked Good Ag said:

A is A said:

Question. Why did the runner have to go back to third on the interference? It was a dead play? Where is that in rule book?


If you don't know that rule then stop complaining about getting screwed by umpires or officials in any sport. The rule has been explained and anyone that follows baseball would know you don't get to advance on interference or else everyone would do it to get the run in


Damn. You okay man? I just asked a question. This is my first post on this topic.
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Warsteiner said:

Ag1188 said:

Jace speaks super highly of Coach Earley and Texas A&M…




Of course he did.
Players liking the coach isn't the issue. It's the coach knowing what he is doing is the problem


Exactly. Jace's comments say a lot more about Jace's character than Earley's coaching acumen.
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I think people need to understand talented roster doesn't mean talented lineup

Look at the lineup on the field that was after Jace was pulled Thursday. It is no where near what this roster was suppose to look at at the beginning of the season.
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htxag09 said:

LatinAggie1997 said:

That statement assumes that players are unable to recognize a good coach, and that they prefer a "friend" over success. I highly doubt that to be the case. I would bet on this hypothetical- If Earley could go back to the first game of the season but with the experience he now has, we would win 15+ SEC games.

Just because you suggested the hypothetical….. how do you explain getting swept by Missouri in the second to last series?


This is the hammer. It showed that he was not able to get his team back mentally after a tough game. I don't doubt that they love the guy. But I've said it 19 different ways...here's one more attempt...

This team had way too much trying and not nearly enough doing.

If they bring him back, it's not my nickel either way. I'm just saying the mental approach to the game was WAY off. The team may have had one heartbeat, but if so, they had a-fib almost every time it mattered.
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So, iyo, was it BB or Tom Brady all those years?
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I think the interference for hitting the glove is one of the NCAA distinctions. They have a note that it's interference if you "hinder the fielder's opportunity"

And I agree you don't have to be in the lane, but that's the only way you're getting the protection. Royo was inside the foul line until right before the bag.

Now I see what you're saying, you could argue most of that time outside the lane didn't interfere because the throw was coming from 3rd, but that's up to Birmingham's interpretation. The rule just says outside lane and hinders fielder opportunity.
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So we can best them in regular season but then choke in the tournament. Go figure.
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Killzone3abc said:

We're done but it's bad karma to start it before the field of 64 is officially
That's my feeling as well. I will wait.
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As Burke said on the broadcast last night, "Rules like that reward bad throws"
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curry97 said:

As Burke said on the broadcast last night, "Rules like that reward bad throws"

100% agree. The ball being 60%+ of the way down the third baseline made it all a matter of technicality of the rule. I could see the argument he was interfering if it was the catcher making the play right in front of the plate.

That said, Burke also said the addition of the green base made it to where the rule shouldn't be an issue anymore. And if he was running completely in the runners lane then there is no question of technicality.
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curry97 said:

As Burke said on the broadcast last night, "Rules like that reward bad throws"


Exactly

The rule in that scenario mainly came into play bc of catcher fielding a bunt next to home plate. Players would intentionally run in the throwing lane to disrupt the play. The play of course last night had zero to do with the reason the rule was implemented.

After that play yesterday. Every single baseball game and softball game I have watched I have paid very close attention to how right handed batters run to first. Every single one of them ran to first just like Royo bc they are going in a straight line.
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Was the 3B's throw to 1B "altered" because of the runner? I don't think so.
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curry97 said:

As Burke said on the broadcast last night, "Rules like that reward bad throws"
Also, "I thought we were done with that call after they added the green bag. What are we doing here?"

Or something like that.
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mwm said:

Was the 3B's throw to 1B "altered" because of the runner? I don't think so.


No. It brought the fielder into the path of a runner in a legal position.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

So, iyo, was it BB or Tom Brady all those years?


That's easy. It was Jordan Hudson.
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So similar play just happened in the Georgia-Florida softball game.

Differences. It was a left handed batter that did a slap hit. So she was way into the field even worse than a right handed batter when she started running straight to first.

Similar she stepped into the running lane on her last step prior to hitting the bag.

Different it was fielded by the pitcher not 3rd.

Similar it was bad throw to the right.

Different the first baseman glove did not hit the runner.

Similar the catch was not made.

Different the batter ran to second, not third.

Similar no interference called during play and it was reviewed.

Different call on field was upheld rightfully so.
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RED AG 98 said:

curry97 said:

As Burke said on the broadcast last night, "Rules like that reward bad throws"
Also, "I thought we were done with that call after they added the green bag. What are we doing here?"

Or something like that.


They thought we were done with it because they thought guys would run outside the baseline and in line with the green bag. But running outside would make it too easy for the catcher to make the throw so guys skirt the rules and try to make it difficult on the catcher. Kiel doubled down and went a full foot or two inside what Royo ran, he just didn't get hit.

I think it's a stupid rule. I don't think Royo broke the rule. It's a dumb rule that you can't run on the baseline. If anything I think the green bag makes it easier for the umpires to call it.
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Difference: Today's call involved Florida, yesterday's call involved Texas A&M.

Big difference…..
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TexasRebel said:

in no part of baseball is hitting a line "out"

By rule, both lines are considered to be In the Lane. Any part of the foot can touch them. NCAA, at least previously, said the lane violation was an umpire judgement call and not reviewable. Maybe they can review a no call. I don't know.
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Nope.

A non-call is still judgement.

We got the usual screw.
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TexasRebel said:

Nope.

A non-call is still judgement.

We got the usual screw.

Um rule book specifically says running lane interference at first base is reviewable.
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I'm just going off the post I replied to.
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htxag09 said:

TexasRebel said:

Nope.

A non-call is still judgement.

We got the usual screw.

Um rule book specifically says running lane interference at first base is reviewable.


Define proximity to the bag
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TAMUallen said:

Thisguy1 said:

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htownag08 said:

Tom Hart should never be on TexAgs radio again


I'll never understand why the management/leadership/ownership of Texags EVER had that guy on their platform. Just never made sense to me because literally no one that follows Aggie athletics gives a flying fart what that guy says. His unabashed bias against A&M is well documented and they still gave him time on their show…MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!


The $15 a month they lose from me means nothing to them along with the 1 listener turning the radio off when he's on, but it's so obvious the guy is a jackass who CONSTANTLY goes against A&M. Why in the bell would you have this guy on as a weekly contributor to your fan site?


It does matter, you aren't the only one


I too have cancelled over the Hart saga.
 
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