TX_Aggie37 said:

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trouble said:

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Why would we want him?

And he's being heavily recruited back to the MLB

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Because he's a really good pitching coach.

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Prager and Aschenbeck alone would make anyone look good. It's hard to have a better roster than the 2024 pitching staff.

I don't particularly like Kelly's pitching philosophy/selection and he may be lacking at recruiting, but given the production the bullpen has gotten relative to the talent on campus he's doing a pretty solid job this year.

KayJayKay said:

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My biggest issue is we don't even know what we have on the roster. The same 3 guys have been used over and over out of the pen and most of the staff doesn't even have any innings. Not sure if Bollinger was any good or not, but I see why he rolled out. Too many guys aren't getting any work.

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Bollinger wasn't effective in the fall scrimmage I saw - he had issues throwing strikes consistently.

They also play every Wednesday and the scrimmages are extremely competitive because they are competing for playing time. He obviously wasn't effective enough to get on the field. He left the program and Brauny said looking to transfer down a level to mid Major. Not every portal add is a hit.

It looked like during the tu series we reduced the number of middle-middle meatballs when ahead in the count. That had been a recurring problem all season. Sdao did a better job of this, as well as Lyons. Whether JK fixed that problem or it was just happenstance, I don't know, but it took a while - and hopefully it stays fixed.

JW1612 said:

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I was reading this and can't believe it is a recent thread. Did we not watch our pitching staff pitch this weekend? They did an awesome job this weekend! Credit needs to be given to Earley and JK for shuffling the rotation.

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Our starting pitchers had a 8.20 ERA on the weekend.

The offense was the key to the weekend....Lyons out of the pen was fantastic but he was it on the bump

KayJayKay said:

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My biggest issue is we don't even know what we have on the roster. The same 3 guys have been used over and over out of the pen and most of the staff doesn't even have any innings. Not sure if Bollinger was any good or not, but I see why he rolled out. Too many guys aren't getting any work.

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Bollinger was the worst pitcher in the program in the fall. By a lot.

TAMU1990 said:

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We need biometrics equipment in the new pitching lab. I am not familiar with what we do have, but our recruiting levels indicate that we are not fully equipped with the technology needed. Personally, I think we should purchase everything early and set it up in one of the hitting tunnels until the new facility opens in January and reinstall it at that point. I'm concerned we could see another subpar summer of recruiting pitchers because we still won't have the pitching lab equipment ready for use this fall.

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From my understanding, a full pitching lab requires significant experience to operate to it's maximum potential. Does anyone know if we have that on hand currently or if our staff has any experience with such?

RGLAG85 said:

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Wabs said:

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It looked like during the tu series we reduced the number of middle-middle meatballs when ahead in the count. That had been a recurring problem all season. Sdao did a better job of this, as well as Lyons. Whether JK fixed that problem or it was just happenstance, I don't know, but it took a while - and hopefully it stays fixed.

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Me screaming at my TV says otherwise. I was frustrated it appeared we don't teach our pitchers to know their misses in plus pitcher counts. Both homeruns, in the 9th of Friday's game, were on 0-2 counts.

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Obviously, you never want to give up big contact on an 0-2 count, but up 3 runs in the 9th, the situation is a bit different in my view. Last thing you want there is a lead off walk. That's almost worse than giving up a solo shot.

third deck said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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Wabs said:

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It looked like during the tu series we reduced the number of middle-middle meatballs when ahead in the count. That had been a recurring problem all season. Sdao did a better job of this, as well as Lyons. Whether JK fixed that problem or it was just happenstance, I don't know, but it took a while - and hopefully it stays fixed.

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Me screaming at my TV says otherwise. I was frustrated it appeared we don't teach our pitchers to know their misses in plus pitcher counts. Both homeruns, in the 9th of Friday's game, were on 0-2 counts.

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Obviously, you never want to give up big contact on an 0-2 count, but up 3 runs in the 9th, the situation is a bit different in my view. Last thing you want there is a lead off walk. That's almost worse than giving up a solo shot.

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Is there something between hanging an 0-2 slider and a leadoff walk? In that situation, your slider should be below the knees and 6" off the plate. If i miss, it's further out and in the dirt, not middle, thigh high. You don't want to give them anything to square up in that situation, that's just pitching 101. Plus, you're giving them momentum. If I recall, almost every homerun they hit was 0-2 or 1-2, that's not understanding how to be smartly aggressive. That's a taught and learned behavior..

Eliminatus said:

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TAMU1990 said:

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We need biometrics equipment in the new pitching lab. I am not familiar with what we do have, but our recruiting levels indicate that we are not fully equipped with the technology needed. Personally, I think we should purchase everything early and set it up in one of the hitting tunnels until the new facility opens in January and reinstall it at that point. I'm concerned we could see another subpar summer of recruiting pitchers because we still won't have the pitching lab equipment ready for use this fall.

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From my understanding, a full pitching lab requires significant experience to operate to it's maximum potential. Does anyone know if we have that on hand currently or if our staff has any experience with such?

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Hopefully Olsenawski does, but that would be a Brauny question. I'm sure I'm butchering his name but I don't know how to spell it.

Ok, I am ready to reevaluate my stance of Kelly based off of last few weeks. However, I don't know **** about **** when it comes to high brow pitching stuff and not even going to try to pretend I do.

So for those in the know and with the knowledge, what exactly has happened to our pitching staff lately to have such a positive trend lately and do we anoint Kelly for this happening?

Check me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but, you know, its almost as if the team is continuing to improve through the season. Crazy.

According to AgRyan, starting pitching ERA against tu last weekend was 8.2. Obviously better this weekend but LSU doesn't have the bats this year, so there's that. But I'm not someone in the know, so take all that being from a casual fan, not a college baseball guru. There are plenty of them posting around here, though. Apparently....

dermdoc said:

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RogerTheShrubber said:

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Settling for mediocrity again derm... youre better than that....lol

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Some of these folks must be auditioning for Duvall's (RIP) role in the Great Santini.
BTHO Cougar high!

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"Bull" Meachem what a great reference. A great movie

carl spacklers hat said:

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Check me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but, you know, its almost as if the team is continuing to improve through the season. Crazy.

According to AgRyan, starting pitching ERA against tu last weekend was 8.2. Obviously better this weekend but LSU doesn't have the bats this year, so there's that. But I'm not someone in the know, so take all that being from a casual fan, not a college baseball guru. There are plenty of them posting around here, though. Apparently....

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The starting pitching ERA last weekend was 8.20.

Thankfully, they have pitched significantly better this weekend - let's hope this trend continues and we get the sweep today!

Hopefully the emergence of Lyons as an effective middle relief option will give us more confidence to take out starters when they are losing it. It's been mentioned on here over and over again that we leave pitchers in 1-2 batters too long and I think a big part of that is we don't have faith in our middle relief options just yet.

Universally, the stats are pretty clear that pitchers are less effective each additional time through the order, not just because they get tired, but because batters start seeing their pitches. The third time through the order is typically a blood bath for pitchers.

I think a big part of what made the 2024 pitching staff look so good is once it started to look like a pitcher was becoming less effective, we didn't wait to make a move to the pen. Starter has gone 4.2 IP, only given up 1 run, but had 2 hard hit balls this inning and facing an unfavorable L-R match up with a runner in scoring position? Pull him and get a better match up before we let them back in the game. Also, we weren't afraid to run out of bullets and have a bullpen day on Sunday. Up 3 on Friday and need to get 12 outs? Hand the to ball to Cortez > Sarge. I think potentially using Moss as a long reliever as well as the move on Friday to pull Sdao for Lyons was a huge step towards bringing back this mentality.

I'm not saying effective middle relief options will suddenly take us from one of the worst to one of the best pitching staffs in the country, but I think it might take us to have middle of the SEC ERA type numbers.

AgRyan04 said:

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JW1612 said:

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I was reading this and can't believe it is a recent thread. Did we not watch our pitching staff pitch this weekend? They did an awesome job this weekend! Credit needs to be given to Earley and JK for shuffling the rotation.

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Our starting pitchers had a 8.20 ERA on the weekend.

The offense was the key to the weekend....Lyons out of the pen was fantastic but he was it on the bump

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7 earned runs given up by starting pitching last weekend over 8 2/3 innings. ERA was 7.27.

You're right....I must have thought the run Lyons gave up was Simm's

What time is the game today and carried where?

Was not sure if today's game was changed or not?

So far still 1:00 on ESPN