dirkjones said:trouble said:
He's all about winning. Brings players in from across the country. Makes roster decisions based on which of his big players is coming in when. There's no way you'd let your kid play for him.
Thinks people hate him for winning. Even compares himself to the cowboys and yankees
There was a podcast last night with this guy and he pretty much said the same about being hated. Lane jr was there with his 2 sons, none of the 3 seemed too upset.
Bunk Moreland said:
https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/local-sports/two-time-defending-state-champion-grapevine-baseball-deemed-ineligible-by-uil-hours-before-playoff-game-per-district/287-7ed58df5-0ea9-44be-8c01-a16d32b6d53a
Lale Esquivel is quoted in this article talking about his two kids being on the team
dirkjones said:
It's been interesting watching J Lane sr. response to all of this. Jr. did transfer from Fort Worth school to Grapevine in August and even Sr. Is saying he isn't sure if he is one of the 3 in question. Don't think those names will be released. More interesting seeing how Jr and Sr have no relationship and Jr refusing to acknowledge Sr, even turning around and walking away at a recent baseball game in Louisiana. Family commenting how would sr expect anything different after being absent with no support over the years. Lots of back and forth on Facebook live. My take is he was probably one of the 3.
TarponChaser said:Bunk Moreland said:
https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/local-sports/two-time-defending-state-champion-grapevine-baseball-deemed-ineligible-by-uil-hours-before-playoff-game-per-district/287-7ed58df5-0ea9-44be-8c01-a16d32b6d53a
Lale Esquivel is quoted in this article talking about his two kids being on the team
They are Lale and Luke. They've been there and live in the district. But he's the one who allegedly recruited the ineligible kids and orchestrated this whole fiasco.
And based on his shenanigans in travel ball he gets no benefit of the doubt.
DWren said:
I'm all for accountability but the UIL is taking away something some of those kids will never get back.
The ineligible player cannot participate , the coach , administrators etc are suspended, reprimanded whatever .
Removing the entire team from the playoffs , I don't agree with.
Hell of a way for players , especially seniors to go out considering they did nothing wrong
Someone in the district admin didn't have a condo/apartment to rent out to his family for $5 a month? That's what the sleazy high school football programs dofightingfarmer09 said:
Everything on Facebook seems to indicate the player was using a district address that was not their actual residence and they lived somewhere else entirely. This is blatantly against the UIL rules. It only gets caught when someone reports it. A few pointing at a player that did not make Varsity as the reporting party, but this is all just Facebook comments.
OnlyForNow said:
The adults name is Lale Esquivel. He has one kid with the same name.
I mean who gives a **** about typing someone's name.
bdgol07 said:
Very hard to make any assumptions when te article doesn't even say as to why he was ruled ineligible. I am sure the kid and his parent knew exactly what they were doing as well as the coach to a certain extent, but there are too many variable to start throwing stones and accusing anyone outside of the kid's home.
As someone who had their senior year end under a 1st year head coach playing the younger kids and I watched the last out of my senior year happen while in the on deck circle in a game placing the 6th and 7th place teams in the district, I feel for the seniors having their season end in a way they never expected, that $#it sucks.
RogueAg said:
Sleazy travel ball coach, who happens to have two of his own kids on the roster, recruited kids outside the district to the grapevine roster. Rumors are he was bragging outloud about ensuring Grapevine would win a 3rd straight championship.
He's been around travel ball since his kids were very young. My kid played against them. If you know the name, then an internet search will reveal articles written years ago about his questionable reputation and tactics as a travel ball coach.
He's carried those tactics with him to HS ball
GigEmADED said:
Dude has apparently spent 40k to try and get them back in the playoffs. I bet hes using Luke Esquivel's NIL money hes getting from LSU to go there
TarponChaser said:dirkjones said:
It's been interesting watching J Lane sr. response to all of this. Jr. did transfer from Fort Worth school to Grapevine in August and even Sr. Is saying he isn't sure if he is one of the 3 in question. Don't think those names will be released. More interesting seeing how Jr and Sr have no relationship and Jr refusing to acknowledge Sr, even turning around and walking away at a recent baseball game in Louisiana. Family commenting how would sr expect anything different after being absent with no support over the years. Lots of back and forth on Facebook live. My take is he was probably one of the 3.
I don't know Lane, Sr. but we have several friends in common (like real life friends not internet friends, including kids who have played with Lane, Jr when they were younger) and from what I hear from the mutual friends regarding the estrangement is that the ex-wife basically left when Lane, Sr.'s NFL career was over and the gravy-train stopped. So she left with the kids and made like he abandoned them to poison that well.
But that's also just one side of the story.
jac4 said:
Reading this thread is such a huge contrast to Jorian Wilson's path through HS baseball.
FIDO 96 said:RogueAg said:
Sleazy travel ball coach, who happens to have two of his own kids on the roster, recruited kids outside the district to the grapevine roster. Rumors are he was bragging outloud about ensuring Grapevine would win a 3rd straight championship.
He's been around travel ball since his kids were very young. My kid played against them. If you know the name, then an internet search will reveal articles written years ago about his questionable reputation and tactics as a travel ball coach.
He's carried those tactics with him to HS ball
You mean this guy? I've never met a parent who ended up saying "so glad he and his kid were on our team".
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article159060549.html
dirkjones said:jac4 said:
Reading this thread is such a huge contrast to Jorian Wilson's path through HS baseball.
Since you mentioned Jorian who I believe is 17-18 years old, just saw that Lale's son that is a graduating senior is now 20 years old. His other son that is a sophomore is currently 17 1/2 years old. Just gets crazier.
Aggie97 said:TarponChaser said:TheBonifaceOption said:
UIL is about to be throwing out the rulebook next year thanks to TEFA.
Ive been bombarded woth ads for "accredited" private schools that are 99% focused on athletics. Residency requirements dont really matter for private schools. For example, you live in Bryan, your kids' private school could be in CS away from Bryan ISD.
Private schools and homeschools can compete in UIL atheletics. So its only a matter of time that these schools drain the best athletes.
Can homeschool teams compete in UIL? I didn't think they could.
And as for private schools, as I understand it they have to go 6A and are under some other requirements too. As far as I know there's only a handful of private schools that compete in UIL. The biggest name being Strake Jesuit.
The Bennett School which has causes quite the kerfuffle as a private "school" seems to be making the biggest stink. They're a baseball-only academy and while they have played public schools I don't believe they're competing in UIL or plan to.
Homeschool kids teams do not compete in UIL. They do play UIL teams in pre district games/tournaments. As of right now there only 2 private schools in the state that play UIL. Strake Jesuit and Dallas Jesuit. They have to play 6A. I don't know what Dallas Jesuit's enrollment is but Strake's is 1500+ boys. So if they had girls they would have been 6A anyway.
Come Out Roll said:DWren said:
I'm all for accountability but the UIL is taking away something some of those kids will never get back.
The ineligible player cannot participate , the coach , administrators etc are suspended, reprimanded whatever .
Removing the entire team from the playoffs , I don't agree with.
Hell of a way for players , especially seniors to go out considering they did nothing wrong
So, you're saying the ONLY people that were in on this fraud (make no mistake, that's what this is) was just the coach and the player himself??
BS….the kid knew, his teammates knew…..they ALL knew, and continued to flaunt the rules…..and keep playing.
No sympathy from me.
FIDO 96 said:RogueAg said:
Sleazy travel ball coach, who happens to have two of his own kids on the roster, recruited kids outside the district to the grapevine roster. Rumors are he was bragging outloud about ensuring Grapevine would win a 3rd straight championship.
He's been around travel ball since his kids were very young. My kid played against them. If you know the name, then an internet search will reveal articles written years ago about his questionable reputation and tactics as a travel ball coach.
He's carried those tactics with him to HS ball
You mean this guy? I've never met a parent who ended up saying "so glad he and his kid were on our team".
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article159060549.html
JVSchroeder said:
You can easily lookup actual(?) ages of baseball prospects on PG...
Lale Esquivel just turned 19
DWren said:
I'm all for accountability but the UIL is taking away something some of those kids will never get back.
The ineligible player cannot participate , the coach , administrators etc are suspended, reprimanded whatever .
Removing the entire team from the playoffs , I don't agree with.
Hell of a way for players , especially seniors to go out considering they did nothing wrong
BMOC86 said:JVSchroeder said:
You can easily lookup actual(?) ages of baseball prospects on PG...
Lale Esquivel just turned 19
All that just to commit to Blinn????
TarponChaser said:BMOC86 said:JVSchroeder said:
You can easily lookup actual(?) ages of baseball prospects on PG...
Lale Esquivel just turned 19
All that just to commit to Blinn????
Not to defend Esquivel by any stretch but if you think going to a top tier juco program like Blinn isn't big time then you don't have a clue about college baseball.
BMOC86 said:TarponChaser said:BMOC86 said:JVSchroeder said:
You can easily lookup actual(?) ages of baseball prospects on PG...
Lale Esquivel just turned 19
All that just to commit to Blinn????
Not to defend Esquivel by any stretch but if you think going to a top tier juco program like Blinn isn't big time then you don't have a clue about college baseball.
Dude, go away…..
