Earley's brilliant SEC pitching strategy cost us…..

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Luke The Drifter said:

Sean98 said:

Include losing 2 of the last 3 series, which in part was a result of those injuries.



Correct...also a factor.

And keep in mind, two of the of the SEC teams who got national seeds ahead of A&M - Florida and Alabama - did not pad their SEC win total by playing Missouri.

Didn't they play South Carolina? In my opinion, they are as bad or worse than Missouri.
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jkag89 said:

twk said:

jkag89 said:

twk said:

Just a guess, but I suspect the injury concerns with Sims, Partida, and Hacopian had a lot more to do with it than one and done at Hoover.

I blame you for going to Europe in the middle of Fightin' Texas Aggie Baseball season.

2007, I go to the UK, we go to a super regional.

2011, I go to France, we go to Omaha.

2016, I go to Switzerland, we go to a super regional

2022, I go to Normandy, we go to Omaha

2026, I go to Italy, we…

The question now is why you don't take more trips to Europe during baseball season?

I've figured out that if I schedule a 3 weekend trip that ends on the Sunday of Memorial Day, I will only miss one home series (we never plat back to back home series the last two, and I don't care about Hoover), so that's my preferred travel window, before the summer peak. I haven't scheduled anything for next year, yet, but I'm accepting contributions for anyone interested.
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"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them."

I never actually realized that. Pretty interesting.
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No, it didn't. In case you were not paying attention Auburn could have won that game 1-0.

One game did not cost us an 8 seed. And if it did, it was not the Auburn game, it was games against OU or a midweek loss from earlier in the season.
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threeanout said:

"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them."

I never actually realized that. Pretty interesting.
And none of them moved on to better programs. For the most part they were all fired for not getting us where we wanted to be. And I really liked a couple of them, professionally and personally.

But what it mostly shows is that either (1) we are not the destination program we hope/think we are, or (2) we don't care about/invest in baseball the way others do. Because otherwise we wouldn't always be trying unproven coaches hoping to find the next big thing.
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dermdoc said:

Luke The Drifter said:

Sean98 said:

Include losing 2 of the last 3 series, which in part was a result of those injuries.



Correct...also a factor.

And keep in mind, two of the of the SEC teams who got national seeds ahead of A&M - Florida and Alabama - did not pad their SEC win total by playing Missouri.

Didn't they play South Carolina? In my opinion, they are as bad or worse than Missouri.
BTHO the regional!



South Carolina was indeed bad, but they did post a road sweep at Mizzou this year.

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Jarrin Jay said:

No, it didn't. In case you were not paying attention Auburn could have won that game 1-0.

One game did not cost us an 8 seed. And if it did, it was not the Auburn game, it was games against OU or a midweek loss from earlier in the season.



We only lost one mid-week game this season...on the road at Texas State.

There are lots of reasons we were not chosen to be a top 8 seed, but one single game is not one of those reasons.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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Sean98 said:

threeanout said:

"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them."

I never actually realized that. Pretty interesting.

And none of them moved on to better programs. For the most part they were all fired for not getting us where we wanted to be. And I really liked a couple of them, professionally and personally.

But what it mostly shows is that either (1) we are not the destination program we hope/think we are, or (2) we don't care about/invest in baseball the way others do. Because otherwise we wouldn't always be trying unproven coaches hoping to find the next big thing.


Tom Chandler was not fired...he retired. He was in no danger of getting fired when he left.

Mark Johnson was fired.

Rob Childress was fired.

The coach not to be named left us for what he thought was a better...ummm...lifestyle

Michael Earley's situation is still TBD.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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Bring n WOOD said:

When he makes bad decisions, I'll be calling him out….Rudis and Darden are not starter worthy pitchers. That's my point….under Earley's watch, I've not seen us land elite pitchers either thru the Portal or via HS recruiting. This has to change if we're going to stay competitive in the SEC….after the 1 and done SEC tournament we dropped from Top 8 consideration to a 12 seed…..
Meanwhile tu has elite pitchers like Volantis, Riojas and Cozart


Funny how all the tu obsession follows the negative fans. There's a million teams and coaches you could mention but you chose to pull out your burnt orange dildo. We just got a host and I like our super pairing, should we make it through. It's not like we're in the position every year. My God. Appreciate something for once and stop *****ing.
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Seeding is an excuse to quit for fair-weather fans.
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Bring n WOOD said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


I'm not freaking out…. we had an opportunity to break into the top eight as a national seed and because of our questionable SEC tournament pitching strategy, we blew it!!


So we're blaming pitching… when we didn't score one run? Where were Grahovac, Sorrell, Hacopian, Harrison?

Which pitcher on our staff was supposed to throw a 1 (negative one) shutout? Pitchers don't produce runs.

And for that matter, which pitcher on tu's staff the same staff people keep praising was going to throw a negative1 shutout? They were eliminated after one game in the SEC Tournament and lost 8-1, the same seven run differential we had. These games happen.

Everyone wanted Earley to reshuffle the deck before the SEC Tournament. Some decisions were forced he literally had to pull one card out of the deck because that pitcher needed rest. Hopefully we grow from it.

He also had injuries to hitters/fielders that affected offensive production. Yes, injuries happen and every team deals with them, but they still matter. It's always easy to look back and say what should've been done, but ingame you don't have that luxury.

IMHO, blaming Earley for an EARLY exit in the SEC Tournament is pointless. We still have another hand to play.

Pitching has been upanddown all season hot, cold, warm whether due to strategy, execution, or both. Only Earley and Kelly truly know the why.

Bottom line: sure, hosting a super would've been great, but that's not the hand we were dealt. The goal is still to win it all, and that hasn't changed. From here on out, we just have to win the games in front of us.

JUST WIN.

Let's see how the hand we've been dealt plays out.
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TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.
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Not sure about Earley, but Alvarez of Auburn was brilliant
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Sean98 said:

threeanout said:

"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them."

I never actually realized that. Pretty interesting.

And none of them moved on to better programs. For the most part they were all fired for not getting us where we wanted to be. And I really liked a couple of them, professionally and personally.

But what it mostly shows is that either (1) we are not the destination program we hope/think we are, or (2) we don't care about/invest in baseball the way others do. Because otherwise we wouldn't always be trying unproven coaches hoping to find the next big thing.

MJ was a great guy, but couldn't really get us where we wanted to be. Childress just didn't seem to put out much effort on the recruiting trail
I don't think (2) is correct and with NIL I would say we invest more than most others. Now pre-Schloss (1) was probably correct. I had a discussion yesterday with a guy about baseball recruiting, and my question to him was what is most important to a high school baseball recruit:
1) NIL dollars
2) Coaching staff who can develop and get me to the next level
3) The chance to play for a national championship contender
4) The actual school itself and the history of the program
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Howdy, I have only to say, 'PLEASE DO NOT START DARDEN!' End of rant.
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
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Such unreal performances and coaching by the liar and his side kick the weiner!
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twk said:

jkag89 said:

twk said:

Just a guess, but I suspect the injury concerns with Sims, Partida, and Hacopian had a lot more to do with it than one and done at Hoover.

I blame you for going to Europe in the middle of Fightin' Texas Aggie Baseball season.

2007, I go to the UK, we go to a super regional.

2011, I go to France, we go to Omaha.

2016, I go to Switzerland, we go to a super regional

2022, I go to Normandy, we go to Omaha

2026, I go to Italy, we…



First four were Allies. This was first year to Axis Power. Applying Jake Taylor logic, we win the whole Fn thing.
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AggieBB said:

TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.

Agreed it's a pitching talent issue but I think we have the facilities now to recruit with the big boys. And hopefully there's sufficient NIL, although when Earley was asked his response was that we could use more in the NIL dept.
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losing the series finale in Oxford was the killer for a top 8 seed
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McCoy and Ramirez were recognized as good talent that were going to be counted on- right up until they had season ending injuries in the fall. The bu transfer daily is a good lefty that had Title IX issues and had to go to MCC instead. Lost Stewart early in the season.
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We all thought Sdao would be better. We didn't know Sims or Stewart would get hurt.

On the other side of it, Halcopian has been hurt several times this year, Partida has been hurt, we've had a lot of ****ty luck with injuries.
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My God. Appreciate something for once and stop *****ing.

Amen. This could be relevant for many posters on this board. It's fatiguing.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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We scored 0 runs against Auburn in the tournament. Do we have a pitcher that can pitch better than a shutout where we win 0 to -1?
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From what I've read, we will not be Elite until we have a multi-million dollar super duper pitching laboratory. This is keeping us from getting the elite arms.
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Jarrin Jay said:

No, it didn't. In case you were not paying attention Auburn could have won that game 1-0.

One game did not cost us an 8 seed. And if it did, it was not the Auburn game, it was games against OU or a midweek loss from earlier in the season.

It was the low RPI of the non con series in February and the 1st week of March, not any losses from the midweek. We only lost to Texas State in San Marcos because of errors and UCLA. Those are our two non con losses.
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AggieBB said:

TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.

Brauny has commented that it is a priority to raise the talent level this off-season.
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I would sure ****ing hope so
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TAMU1990 said:

AggieBB said:

TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.

Brauny has commented that it is a priority to raise the talent level this off-season.

As opposed to commenting it's a priority to lowering the talent level, I'm glad he cleared that one up.

It was also priority last season obviously and nothing happened.
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TAMU1990 said:

Jarrin Jay said:

No, it didn't. In case you were not paying attention Auburn could have won that game 1-0.

One game did not cost us an 8 seed. And if it did, it was not the Auburn game, it was games against OU or a midweek loss from earlier in the season.

It was the low RPI of the non con series in February and the 1st week of March, not any losses from the midweek. We only lost to Texas State in San Marcos because of errors and UCLA. Those are our two non con losses.


Look at which ADs were on the committee. It is that easy. They would find some metric that promoted their team.
BYHO the regional!
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Bring n WOOD said:

A top 8 Seed…..I've been an Earley backer from day 1…..
Now….i'm starting to second guess……


Thought he was damn good in the Miss State series.
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TAMU1990 said:

AggieBB said:

TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.

Brauny has commented that it is a priority to raise the talent level this off-season.

Hard hitting, in depth analysis.
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Hank the Grifter said:

TAMU1990 said:

AggieBB said:

TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.

Brauny has commented that it is a priority to raise the talent level this off-season.

Hard hitting, in depth analysis.


Def worth what they're paying for it.
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Bring n WOOD said:

When he makes bad decisions, I'll be calling him out….Rudis and Darden are not starter worthy pitchers. That's my point….under Earley's watch, I've not seen us land elite pitchers either thru the Portal or via HS recruiting. This has to change if we're going to stay competitive in the SEC….after the 1 and done SEC tournament we dropped from Top 8 consideration to a 12 seed…..
Meanwhile tu has elite pitchers like Volantis, Riojas and Cozart


Get your checkbook out big boy.
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UnderoosAg said:

twk said:

jkag89 said:

twk said:

Just a guess, but I suspect the injury concerns with Sims, Partida, and Hacopian had a lot more to do with it than one and done at Hoover.

I blame you for going to Europe in the middle of Fightin' Texas Aggie Baseball season.

2007, I go to the UK, we go to a super regional.

2011, I go to France, we go to Omaha.

2016, I go to Switzerland, we go to a super regional

2022, I go to Normandy, we go to Omaha

2026, I go to Italy, we…



First four were Allies. This was first year to Axis Power. Applying Jake Taylor logic, we win the whole Fn thing.


If we win it all, you need to do some stadium renderings to auction off to fund his trip to another Axis power next year.
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LB12MEEN said:

TAMU1990 said:

AggieBB said:

TexasAggie81 said:

LB12MEEN said:

We knew pitching was an issue prior to the season. Why are you freaking out about it now?


It doesn't appear that pitching got any better throughout the year. In fact, it's a hot mess. The players were not developed. And we still don't have a set, reliable, consistent rotation. That's on the coach.

And pitching is not going to get any better with what we have in the roster. It's a talent issue. We don't have any elite arms. Definitely on the coach.

Brauny has commented that it is a priority to raise the talent level this off-season.

As opposed to commenting it's a priority to lowering the talent level, I'm glad he cleared that one up.

It was also priority last season obviously and nothing happened.


That's factually incorrect.
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