bro just take the ratio, you got called out simple as that
Earley's brilliant SEC pitching strategy cost us…..
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I remember watching Aggies vs lsu and thinking, my gosh, can't believe the number pitchers they were rolling in...
Have we been using 100% of our bullpen?
seems like no, but I'm not sure
Have we been using 100% of our bullpen?
seems like no, but I'm not sure
There is plenty of offseason to debate this. Get behind this team and see how far the ride goes. The team is the team for this postseason.
You know
It's actually worse if they thought it was not a priority last season.
It's actually worse if they thought it was not a priority last season.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
To the OP, who should we have pitched and was that person going to throw a shutout?
Hindsight is 20/20 and it worked for the clanga series. I criticized it at the time, but we are where we are, which is in the tourney with a decently favorable matchup on the other side. That's baseball, baby.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
Aggie_Jeff said:
To the OP, who should we have pitched and was that person going to throw a shutout?
Yea, tell us about your genius pitching strategy that would have won the AU game. BTW - we won't see another pitching staff like AU's unless we make the CWS.
threeanout said:
"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them."
I never actually realized that. Pretty interesting.
Incorrect
Schloss and Childress had HC experience when we hired them
Johnson, Chandler, and Earley did not
"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them"
That's inaccurate
3 had no HC experience
Schloss and Childress had HC experience
That's inaccurate
3 had no HC experience
Schloss and Childress had HC experience
LB12MEEN said:
You know
It's actually worse if they thought it was not a priority last season.
It was and they addressed it. Then the Baylor kid got arrested and the FAU kid flaked and left. That's an expected weekend starter and a middle reliever. Now factor in the two guys with UCL tears, one in spring camp and the other in February and there's the crux of the problem. I'm not saying we had enough high end talent but it starts to make sense. They expected Sdao to be ready and for Moss and Simms to take the next step and only one of those three happened. Now add in the Baylor kid who had the velocity we so sorely lack and there's your rotation problems. Stewart was the expected closer and had two different season ending injuries in back to back years. I'm not sure is reasonable to expect them to recruit around that much unusual stuff.
I think it's fair to question some of the decisions but some of this is just bad luck. For example there's a growing consensus that it takes two years to return from TJ surgery yet Sdao was advised to wait to October 2024 to see if it healed. I'm not qualified to question that advice medically but I can certainly look at the calendar and realize those four months were possibly part of his problems this year and that we should have known this was possible.
Captain Pablo said:
"For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them"
That's inaccurate
3 had no HC experience
Schloss and Childress had HC experience
Oh yeah. I forgot Childress had a year as head coach in JUCO. Not sure hour much that prepared him for this job but you are correct.
Bad luck, got it. Our coaches just have bad luck. Just start with that one next time and I will know not to waste either of our time.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
LB12MEEN said:
Bad luck, got it. Our coaches just have bad luck. Just start with that one next time and I will know not to waste either of our time.
Ok, you're turn. I didn't say luck was the only explanation but I gave you the facts in expected contributors that are simply not here. What's your explanation and more importantly what would you have done differently?
twk said:jkag89 said:twk said:
Just a guess, but I suspect the injury concerns with Sims, Partida, and Hacopian had a lot more to do with it than one and done at Hoover.
I blame you for going to Europe in the middle of Fightin' Texas Aggie Baseball season.
2007, I go to the UK, we go to a super regional.
2011, I go to France, we go to Omaha.
2016, I go to Switzerland, we go to a super regional
2022, I go to Normandy, we go to Omaha
2026, I go to Italy, we…
Leave the country permanently, and we'd be in the CWS every year!
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
I don't see it as bad luck when pitchers coming back from injury either get re-injured or are not at the same level. I see that as a risk that has now played out as a negative.
When guys don't make it in that tells me we also took risks bc we had no other options at pitching. It's either that or we did not do a proper review prior. So I also don't think it's bad luck in that area.
Pitching concerns were known prior to the season. Many on this board were concerned rightfully so.
This staff is having issues recruiting pitching talent. As you state, that's a fact. It's their job to figure it out, not mine.
This discussion all stemmed bc me and another thought the comment stating pitching recruiting is a priority this year was funny. Oh OK,
When guys don't make it in that tells me we also took risks bc we had no other options at pitching. It's either that or we did not do a proper review prior. So I also don't think it's bad luck in that area.
Pitching concerns were known prior to the season. Many on this board were concerned rightfully so.
This staff is having issues recruiting pitching talent. As you state, that's a fact. It's their job to figure it out, not mine.
This discussion all stemmed bc me and another thought the comment stating pitching recruiting is a priority this year was funny. Oh OK,
Gig ‘Em Baby!
LB12MEEN said:
I don't see it as bad luck when pitchers coming back from injury either get re-injured or are not at the same level. I see that as a risk that has now played out as a negative.
When guys don't make it in that tells me we also took risks bc we had no other options at pitching. It's either that or we did not do a proper review prior. So I also don't think it's bad luck in that area.
Pitching concerns were known prior to the season. Many on this board were concerned rightfully so.
This staff is having issues recruiting pitching talent. As you state, that's a fact. It's their job to figure it out, not mine.
This discussion all stemmed bc me and another thought the comment stating pitching recruiting is a priority this year was funny. Oh OK,
Mixed answers.
Wondering if Sdao would be ready is a valid concern given the nature of his injury and timing. Lots of us wondered about that and the season proved he wasn't.
Wondering about Stewart would have been illogical. He was coming back from a knee injury and suffered a UCL tear. That doesn't seem in any way related or predictable.
The other UCL tear happened in January of this year so again, not predictable.
I'm not aware of prior concerns for the Baylor transfer who was arrested and prior to him flaking and leaving I hadn't heard any reason to question the commitment of the FAU transfer.
To be honest your post reads like hindsight, "we should have known something nobody else did" type of stuff from people whose only response is that the coaches failed. I'm with you on Sdao but the rest seem beyond a reasonable expectation of diligence. As the saying goes, sometimes bad things happen to good people.
I do appreciate the discussion, for the record. This is gonna be one of those years where we wonder what might have been if Stewart is healthy and the Baylor and FAU transfers just do what they said they would do.
LOYAL AG said:Sean98 said:Gaius Rufus said:Bring n WOOD said:
A top 8 Seed…..I've been an Earley backer from day 1…..
Now….i'm starting to second guess……
Picked, what, 13th in the SEC pre-season poll…finished the #12 seed in the country.
But sure, this is where you draw line.
Here's the enigma that is the Aggies under Earley... Preseason #1 to missing it all and being swept by Mizzou. Preseason #13 in the SEC because of the failure that was '25. Then #1 in conference deep into the season only to slip late.
You can't blame him for the failures without recognizing the successes... And you can't glorify the successes without admitting that they seem more impressive because of last year's failures. He was buoyed by as much MLB offensive talent as anyone in the country. But he helped to amass it. But he missed on every pitching transfer.
In short, he's a coach with potential, but no real experience and he's learning on the job. No surprise there. But should a top tier team have to go through those growing pains?
Or maybe we're just not actually a top tier program?
This is the right mindset on Earley right now. For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them. You might argue we aren't the same program we were when the other three were hired and we can debate that but still that's our history. We're hosting our 14th regional all time and that's just not a crazy number suggesting we're some juggernaut. We're a good program with a lot of money but historically we aren't top 10, probably about top 20. That's what made Schloss leaving so frustrating, he could have turned us into that based on the early results. Now we have to see if Earley has that ability or not. The recruiting has been really good on offense while pitching leaves a lot to be desired. We need to see that fixed this offseason to really feel good about the future. We can slug our way through this regional and maybe to Omaha this year but that's not sustainable in the long run.
In all sports you really have to delineate between the pre-Rudder and post-Rudder eras when we were all-male/all-military to when being in the Corps was optional and we went co-ed. So you're really going back to the early-70s.
Since then we've been very successful in most sports despite a lack of national titles. From 1946 to about 1975 we were basically the Citadel or VMI trying to compete with big-time programs with much higher levels of commitment.
Anyway, the 2026 recruiting class has some elite arms for us signed. Earley also signed elite arms in 2025 but those guys unfortunately signed pro contracts, which I'm told had to do with the money folks not being willing to pony up NIL dollars to keep them (and little to do with the pitching coach) while the whorns ponied up for guys like Volantis and Cozart.
As for the portal guys, that's a danger too in trying to project production at lower level schools to the SEC, look at how badly LSU evaluated their portal guys, but I imagine we'll hit the portal hard for arms again this year.
LB12MEEN said:
I don't see it as bad luck when pitchers coming back from injury either get re-injured or are not at the same level. I see that as a risk that has now played out as a negative.
When guys don't make it in that tells me we also took risks bc we had no other options at pitching. It's either that or we did not do a proper review prior. So I also don't think it's bad luck in that area.
Pitching concerns were known prior to the season. Many on this board were concerned rightfully so.
This staff is having issues recruiting pitching talent. As you state, that's a fact. It's their job to figure it out, not mine.
This discussion all stemmed bc me and another thought the comment stating pitching recruiting is a priority this year was funny. Oh OK,
The new roster limits imposed this year also played a part - as we've opted into the House settlement we get 34 full scholarships for baseball and they cannot be divided up. But we also have a 34-man roster limit with a max of 7 "designated student athletes" which are going to be guys who are injured that you want to keep around or maybe a grad transfer like Chestnutt.
TarponChaser said:LOYAL AG said:Sean98 said:Gaius Rufus said:Bring n WOOD said:
A top 8 Seed…..I've been an Earley backer from day 1…..
Now….i'm starting to second guess……
Picked, what, 13th in the SEC pre-season poll…finished the #12 seed in the country.
But sure, this is where you draw line.
Here's the enigma that is the Aggies under Earley... Preseason #1 to missing it all and being swept by Mizzou. Preseason #13 in the SEC because of the failure that was '25. Then #1 in conference deep into the season only to slip late.
You can't blame him for the failures without recognizing the successes... And you can't glorify the successes without admitting that they seem more impressive because of last year's failures. He was buoyed by as much MLB offensive talent as anyone in the country. But he helped to amass it. But he missed on every pitching transfer.
In short, he's a coach with potential, but no real experience and he's learning on the job. No surprise there. But should a top tier team have to go through those growing pains?
Or maybe we're just not actually a top tier program?
This is the right mindset on Earley right now. For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them. You might argue we aren't the same program we were when the other three were hired and we can debate that but still that's our history. We're hosting our 14th regional all time and that's just not a crazy number suggesting we're some juggernaut. We're a good program with a lot of money but historically we aren't top 10, probably about top 20. That's what made Schloss leaving so frustrating, he could have turned us into that based on the early results. Now we have to see if Earley has that ability or not. The recruiting has been really good on offense while pitching leaves a lot to be desired. We need to see that fixed this offseason to really feel good about the future. We can slug our way through this regional and maybe to Omaha this year but that's not sustainable in the long run.
In all sports you really have to delineate between the pre-Rudder and post-Rudder eras when we were all-male/all-military to when being in the Corps was optional and we went co-ed. So you're really going back to the early-70s.
Since then we've been very successful in most sports despite a lack of national titles. From 1946 to about 1975 we were basically the Citadel or VMI trying to compete with big-time programs with much higher levels of commitment.
Anyway, the 2026 recruiting class has some elite arms for us signed. Earley also signed elite arms in 2025 but those guys unfortunately signed pro contracts, which I'm told had to do with the money folks not being willing to pony up NIL dollars to keep them (and little to do with the pitching coach) while the whorns ponied up for guys like Volantis and Cozart.
As for the portal guys, that's a danger too in trying to project production at lower level schools to the SEC, look at how badly LSU evaluated their portal guys, but I imagine we'll hit the portal hard for arms again this year.
That's fair regarding our history but I'd still say we're top 20 but not top 10. Off the top of my head I'd out the following ahead of us as programs right now, in no particular order:
LSU
Florida
Vanderbilt
State
FSU
Miami
UNC
tu
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Oregon State
You'd be hard pressed to convince me we're above any of those programs right now or over the past 40 years.
In other news, water is wet
A&M Give Us Room!
LOYAL AG said:LB12MEEN said:
You know
It's actually worse if they thought it was not a priority last season.
It was and they addressed it. Then the Baylor kid got arrested and the FAU kid flaked and left. That's an expected weekend starter and a middle reliever. Now factor in the two guys with UCL tears, one in spring camp and the other in February and there's the crux of the problem. I'm not saying we had enough high end talent but it starts to make sense. They expected Sdao to be ready and for Moss and Simms to take the next step and only one of those three happened. Now add in the Baylor kid who had the velocity we so sorely lack and there's your rotation problems. Stewart was the expected closer and had two different season ending injuries in back to back years. I'm not sure is reasonable to expect them to recruit around that much unusual stuff.
I think it's fair to question some of the decisions but some of this is just bad luck. For example there's a growing consensus that it takes two years to return from TJ surgery yet Sdao was advised to wait to October 2024 to see if it healed. I'm not qualified to question that advice medically but I can certainly look at the calendar and realize those four months were possibly part of his problems this year and that we should have known this was possible.
Who is the Baylor kid that got arrested?
AggieBB said:LOYAL AG said:LB12MEEN said:
You know
It's actually worse if they thought it was not a priority last season.
It was and they addressed it. Then the Baylor kid got arrested and the FAU kid flaked and left. That's an expected weekend starter and a middle reliever. Now factor in the two guys with UCL tears, one in spring camp and the other in February and there's the crux of the problem. I'm not saying we had enough high end talent but it starts to make sense. They expected Sdao to be ready and for Moss and Simms to take the next step and only one of those three happened. Now add in the Baylor kid who had the velocity we so sorely lack and there's your rotation problems. Stewart was the expected closer and had two different season ending injuries in back to back years. I'm not sure is reasonable to expect them to recruit around that much unusual stuff.
I think it's fair to question some of the decisions but some of this is just bad luck. For example there's a growing consensus that it takes two years to return from TJ surgery yet Sdao was advised to wait to October 2024 to see if it healed. I'm not qualified to question that advice medically but I can certainly look at the calendar and realize those four months were possibly part of his problems this year and that we should have known this was possible.
Who is the Baylor kid that got arrested?
He never made it to campus. We wouldn't admit him due to legal issues.
Bailey, he ended up at MCC. Hard throwing lefty.
Did he end up injured too?? Or in jail? He only had 5 appearances on the year, none until May it seems.TXAGBQ76 said:
Bailey, he ended up at MCC. Hard throwing lefty.
Don't know, you will have look him up
annie88 said:
My God. Appreciate something for once and stop *****ing.
Amen. This could be relevant for many posters on this board. It's fatiguing.
unfortunate truth
ross skillman 70
TarponChaser said:LOYAL AG said:Sean98 said:Gaius Rufus said:Bring n WOOD said:
A top 8 Seed…..I've been an Earley backer from day 1…..
Now….i'm starting to second guess……
Picked, what, 13th in the SEC pre-season poll…finished the #12 seed in the country.
But sure, this is where you draw line.
Here's the enigma that is the Aggies under Earley... Preseason #1 to missing it all and being swept by Mizzou. Preseason #13 in the SEC because of the failure that was '25. Then #1 in conference deep into the season only to slip late.
You can't blame him for the failures without recognizing the successes... And you can't glorify the successes without admitting that they seem more impressive because of last year's failures. He was buoyed by as much MLB offensive talent as anyone in the country. But he helped to amass it. But he missed on every pitching transfer.
In short, he's a coach with potential, but no real experience and he's learning on the job. No surprise there. But should a top tier team have to go through those growing pains?
Or maybe we're just not actually a top tier program?
This is the right mindset on Earley right now. For the record we've had five head coaches in the past 70-ish years and four of them had no head coaching experience when we hired them. You might argue we aren't the same program we were when the other three were hired and we can debate that but still that's our history. We're hosting our 14th regional all time and that's just not a crazy number suggesting we're some juggernaut. We're a good program with a lot of money but historically we aren't top 10, probably about top 20. That's what made Schloss leaving so frustrating, he could have turned us into that based on the early results. Now we have to see if Earley has that ability or not. The recruiting has been really good on offense while pitching leaves a lot to be desired. We need to see that fixed this offseason to really feel good about the future. We can slug our way through this regional and maybe to Omaha this year but that's not sustainable in the long run.
In all sports you really have to delineate between the pre-Rudder and post-Rudder eras when we were all-male/all-military to when being in the Corps was optional and we went co-ed. So you're really going back to the early-70s.
Since then we've been very successful in most sports despite a lack of national titles. From 1946 to about 1975 we were basically the Citadel or VMI trying to compete with big-time programs with much higher levels of commitment.
Anyway, the 2026 recruiting class has some elite arms for us signed. Earley also signed elite arms in 2025 but those guys unfortunately signed pro contracts, which I'm told had to do with the money folks not being willing to pony up NIL dollars to keep them (and little to do with the pitching coach) while the whorns ponied up for guys like Volantis and Cozart.
As for the portal guys, that's a danger too in trying to project production at lower level schools to the SEC, look at how badly LSU evaluated their portal guys, but I imagine we'll hit the portal hard for arms again this year.
A quick perusal of the top pitching talent in the state of TX shows tu w/a # of commits compared to our 2-4 # I saw.
Let's hope the draft hurts tu a bunch.
Ronnie '88
I have no idea what you're trying to say12thMan9 said:
A quick perusal of the top pitching talent in the state of TX shows tu w/a # of commits compared to our 2-4 # I saw.
Let's hope the draft hurts tu a bunch.
He said tu and that is an immunity token for everything else he said?!?Sean98 said:I have no idea what you're trying to say12thMan9 said:
A quick perusal of the top pitching talent in the state of TX shows tu w/a # of commits compared to our 2-4 # I saw.
Let's hope the draft hurts tu a bunch.
Sean98 said:I have no idea what you're trying to say12thMan9 said:
A quick perusal of the top pitching talent in the state of TX shows tu w/a # of commits compared to our 2-4 # I saw.
Let's hope the draft hurts tu a bunch.
They have more top pitchers signed than we do. He wants their signees to get drafted and go pro, instead of going to school.
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