Ray Baker said:

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AggieBB said:

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Wabs said:

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When Vitello leaves SF, whenever that is, he will be going to Arkansas.

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This is the dumbest internet rumor ever. And it just keeps getting repeated.

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Pigs believe they'll have their pick between Vitello and Wes Johnson once DVH is out. I don't think their AD would force out DVH unless they absolutely tank, and history says they won't. Johnson can build UGA into what Arkansas is currently, I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd leave UGA.
As for Vitello - NIL, portal, and rev share were big factors for him leaving college baseball.

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Excuse me if this is common knowledge and I am just not seeing it, but what is that great about Arkansas and Fayetteville? I do not understand the draw of anyone making it a destination job.

Ray Baker said:

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AggieBB said:

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Wabs said:

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When Vitello leaves SF, whenever that is, he will be going to Arkansas.

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This is the dumbest internet rumor ever. And it just keeps getting repeated.

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Pigs believe they'll have their pick between Vitello and Wes Johnson once DVH is out. I don't think their AD would force out DVH unless they absolutely tank, and history says they won't. Johnson can build UGA into what Arkansas is currently, I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd leave UGA.
As for Vitello - NIL, portal, and rev share were big factors for him leaving college baseball.

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but he will need a job after his time with the Giants is over

unless he wants to retire in his 40's

OrangeAlert said:

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Ray Baker said:

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AggieBB said:

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Wabs said:

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When Vitello leaves SF, whenever that is, he will be going to Arkansas.

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This is the dumbest internet rumor ever. And it just keeps getting repeated.

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Pigs believe they'll have their pick between Vitello and Wes Johnson once DVH is out. I don't think their AD would force out DVH unless they absolutely tank, and history says they won't. Johnson can build UGA into what Arkansas is currently, I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd leave UGA.
As for Vitello - NIL, portal, and rev share were big factors for him leaving college baseball.

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Excuse me if this is common knowledge and I am just not seeing it, but what is that great about Arkansas and Fayetteville? I do not understand the draw of anyone making it a destination job.

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They spend a ton of money on baseball there

W said:

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Ray Baker said:

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AggieBB said:

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Wabs said:

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When Vitello leaves SF, whenever that is, he will be going to Arkansas.

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This is the dumbest internet rumor ever. And it just keeps getting repeated.

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Pigs believe they'll have their pick between Vitello and Wes Johnson once DVH is out. I don't think their AD would force out DVH unless they absolutely tank, and history says they won't. Johnson can build UGA into what Arkansas is currently, I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd leave UGA.
As for Vitello - NIL, portal, and rev share were big factors for him leaving college baseball.

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but he will need a job after his time with the Giants is over

unless he wants to retire in his 40's

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Maaaaybe he does. I did.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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OrangeAlert said:

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Ray Baker said:

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AggieBB said:

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Wabs said:

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When Vitello leaves SF, whenever that is, he will be going to Arkansas.

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This is the dumbest internet rumor ever. And it just keeps getting repeated.

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Not a lot of bang for their bucks.
Pigs believe they'll have their pick between Vitello and Wes Johnson once DVH is out. I don't think their AD would force out DVH unless they absolutely tank, and history says they won't. Johnson can build UGA into what Arkansas is currently, I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd leave UGA.
As for Vitello - NIL, portal, and rev share were big factors for him leaving college baseball.

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Excuse me if this is common knowledge and I am just not seeing it, but what is that great about Arkansas and Fayetteville? I do not understand the draw of anyone making it a destination job.

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They spend a ton of money on baseball there

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OrangeAlert said:

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Ray Baker said:

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AggieBB said:

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Wabs said:

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When Vitello leaves SF, whenever that is, he will be going to Arkansas.

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This is the dumbest internet rumor ever. And it just keeps getting repeated.

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Pigs believe they'll have their pick between Vitello and Wes Johnson once DVH is out. I don't think their AD would force out DVH unless they absolutely tank, and history says they won't. Johnson can build UGA into what Arkansas is currently, I don't think it's a slam dunk that he'd leave UGA.
As for Vitello - NIL, portal, and rev share were big factors for him leaving college baseball.

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Excuse me if this is common knowledge and I am just not seeing it, but what is that great about Arkansas and Fayetteville? I do not understand the draw of anyone making it a destination job.

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Top 3-5 fan support and facilities in the country. Most wins among SEC programs since like 2017 (despite no title). Up until recently they were one of the few programs to make a profit on baseball.

Of course one bad hire can turn you into South Carolina just like everyone else, but the consistency DVH has been able to have is pretty impressive.

My overall sense is TV isn't going to retire in his 40s. He is much more Type A than to sit around. My sense is unless he has more success next year in the MLB, he will start to place himself back in the college ranks.

Upon his departure for the MLB, he had thoughts on UT and A&M's baseball spending. Those 2 schools he mentioned in particular. I don't track MLB schedules and the timing between the college baseball schedule to know how that would play out in TV's future.

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Isn't there an issue with fund raising for the facilities?

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expanded stadium yes. Players lounges, coaches offices, weight room, indoor cages, etc are about half done.

I am a San Francisco Giants fan, and I think firing Bob Melvin for Tony Vitello was a big mistake. But I don't think the Giants will fire Vitello after one year. The Giants are dealing with a heavily inflated managerial budget that makes an early termination economically unfeasible. Vitello is under a 3-year, $10.5 million deal ($3.5 million annually), and the Giants already paid a $3 million buyout fee to pry him from college. On top of that the Giants still owe fired manager Bob Melvin $4 million.

It seems the Giants do contracts like the Aggies!

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The missing piece in this conversation is Trev Kendall Alberts, who has already told one championship-level baseball coach to get the hell out of College Station. In my opinion, Trev is a caretaker, not a builder. Earley gets an extension, and the team's performance regresses next year.

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I still dont understand how this narrative continues. Its been clear that Schloss had one foot out the door the moment CDC contacted him. To this day I still feel we didnt have enough balls to pursue a tortuous interference claim but we basically used the Schloss payout to pay for Earley's contract. The idea he isnt a builder is insane when you think he hired Bucky. And Bucky is building something different and frankly better at A&M.

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I would tap the breaks on Bucky. Let's see what he actually does. If he does well, I think keeping him will be difficult.

Hopefully Trev doesn't extend Earley. If he does, I hope the buyout is manageable

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Since Texas HS students have such a hard time getting admitted to A&M and tu, many are going to Arkansas and OU on very lucrative scholarships. The parents of the students I know who chose Arky have nothing but great things to say about Fayetteville. It's a very fast-growing area...low crime, great natural features.

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I like to tell everyone that the University of Arkansas should be renamed Northeast Texas State University, since 1/3 of its enrollment (and climbing) are Texans.

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I am a San Francisco Giants fan, and I think firing Bob Melvin for Tony Vitello was a big mistake. But I don't think the Giants will fire Vitello after one year. The Giants are dealing with a heavily inflated managerial budget that makes an early termination economically unfeasible. Vitello is under a 3-year, $10.5 million deal ($3.5 million annually), and the Giants already paid a $3 million buyout fee to pry him from college. On top of that the Giants still owe fired manager Bob Melvin $4 million.

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7 million for a buyout does not make it "economically unfeasible" for the Giants. If they decided he needed to go they would pay that in a heartbeat.

Word on the street said we were planning to make an offer to Skip Johnson back in 2024 but backed out due to the players not being behind him.

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Word on the street said we were planning to make an offer to Skip Johnson back in 2024 but backed out due to the players not being behind him.

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That was the choice, once Vitello (and maybe O'Connor) said no: Rebuild the entire roster with Johnson or Vaughn, and see some of those guys move over to Austin, or, keep the band together by hiring Earley.

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Since Texas HS students have such a hard time getting admitted to A&M and tu, many are going to Arkansas and OU on very lucrative scholarships. The parents of the students I know who chose Arky have nothing but great things to say about Fayetteville. It's a very fast-growing area...low crime, great natural features.

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I like to tell everyone that the University of Arkansas should be renamed Northeast Texas State University, since 1/3 of its enrollment (and climbing) are Texans.

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many are going to Arkansas and OU.....

I wonder how many sons and daughters of former Ags are going to TTU?

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We should be going after Skip Johnson at OU or Rob Vaughn at Bama, both doing much more with less (less support, less NIL, less facilities, less fam base, etc).

Either would have been a better hire than Earley.

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We pretty much fumbled our chance with Vaughn last summer unfortunately.

There was another choice. Vaughn head coach with Earley as hitting coach

One rumor said we never kicked the tires with O'Connor because of his buyout (which dropped by the time State hired him). If true that's embarrassing. Also, was Earley's stance "HC or bust"? If he was coming back to be Vaughn's #2 then I think that would have kept the roster. I know the past is the past but I will always be curious.

With the start he has had with the Giants, I don't think Vitello's departure from there will be his doing.

I just don't have a clue what SF's philosophy is on firing managers. Just off hand, I get the feeling they are one of the more stable MLB teams when it comes to that.

If Vitello could lead us to the promised land, the ideal scenario would be that the Giants continue kicking around like they are this season (around 0.400) and then get off to a slow start again next season so that he gets canned in May. Then, Earley has a slightly worse year than this for the Ags (maybe hosts a regional, maybe a 2-seed) and doesn't make it out of the regional.

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With the start he has had with the Giants, I don't think Vitello's departure from there will be his doing.

I just don't have a clue what SF's philosophy is on firing managers. Just off hand, I get the feeling they are one of the more stable MLB teams when it comes to that.

If Vitello could lead us to the promised land, the ideal scenario would be that the Giants continue kicking around like they are this season (around 0.400) and then get off to a slow start again next season so that he gets canned in May. Then, Earley has a slightly worse year than this for the Ags (maybe hosts a regional, maybe a 2-seed) and doesn't make it out of the regional.

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As a Giants fan, I felt fortunate to have manager stability with Bruce Bochy for 13 years from 2007-2019, but we are now on our 3rd manager since then: Gabe Kapler 2020-2023, Bob Melvin from 2024-2025, and Tony Vitello 2025-present. I think he will get at least two years, but I can see the Giants firing him after the 2027 season if he doesn't show substantial progress from 0.400 or 100+ losses.

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With the start he has had with the Giants, I don't think Vitello's departure from there will be his doing.

I just don't have a clue what SF's philosophy is on firing managers. Just off hand, I get the feeling they are one of the more stable MLB teams when it comes to that.

If Vitello could lead us to the promised land, the ideal scenario would be that the Giants continue kicking around like they are this season (around 0.400) and then get off to a slow start again next season so that he gets canned in May. Then, Earley has a slightly worse year than this for the Ags (maybe hosts a regional, maybe a 2-seed) and doesn't make it out of the regional.

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As a Giants fan, I felt fortunate to have manager stability with Bruce Bochy for 13 years from 2007-2019, but we are now on our 3rd manager since then: Gabe Kapler 2020-2023, Bob Melvin from 2024-2025, and Tony Vitello 2025-present. I think he will get at least two years, but I can see the Giants firing him after the 2027 season if he doesn't show substantial progress from 0.400 or 100+ losses.

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Agree he gets a 2nd year and agree what it would take to keep his job beyond that.

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There was another choice. Vaughn head coach with Earley as hitting coach

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Hah. That was never going to happen. That's having your cake and eating it, too.

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So you are admitting that was the best thing that could have happened.

It is not just now being thought of. Several on here said that iswhat they should look into getting done.

What exactly are the reasons that would have stopped it?

Vaughn appears to be a great coach. Intelligent. He obviously would have wanted to keep the roster intact.

From all accounts Earley did not want to uproot his family.

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Tony V is a jerk. We need somebody better than that.

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We were all fine with the POS hire knowing he was a jerk too

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Did we know he was a jerk before he came here? I didn't I guess others did from his tenure at TCU. But I never liked his attitude when he was here either. Does it mean he's not a good coach but I never cared for him personally. And the way he left here showed his true character. Which is not good. I guess for some winning makes it not important, but it bothers me. Never had that sell my soul mentality. To each their own.

Will we be the 80th team ever next year to take the national championship? Who knows.

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One rumor said we never kicked the tires with O'Connor because of his buyout (which dropped by the time State hired him). If true that's embarrassing. Also, was Earley's stance "HC or bust"? If he was coming back to be Vaughn's #2 then I think that would have kept the roster. I know the past is the past but I will always be curious.

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Earley wasn't going to quit Schloss's staff to come be an assistant for Vaughn.

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You don't know that. He has young kids. Did not want to move. My understanding is he and Vaughn also are friends. As long as we paid the same.

They fumbled up the whole thing last year when they were looking at Vaughn again and then got distracted with O'Connor.

Suffice it to say their track record is pretty bad at baseball coaching review the last two summers.

I think we knew we got lucky with the timing but I also think the consensus was just "messy divorce" and not "this guy is borderline psychotic". He comes off pretty likeable during interviews too. Kinda hides his real self.

I liked Vaughn, and would have been fine hiring him, but thinking that Earley would unhitch himself from Schlossnagle in order to entrust his career trajectory to a guy pretty close to his same age is rather naive. Once the players declared for Earley, that was not a realistic possibility.

The strangest thing in this whole deal was Nolan Cain. This would have been a situation tailor made for the top assistant to stay behind as the continuity candidate, but, he opted not to pursue the job for reasons I do not understand, and we ended up with not the first assistant, or second assistant, but, instead, the third assistant coach.