Dallas County - extended stay-at-home order

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11:47a, 4/3/20
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Updated at 6 p.m.: This has been updated to reflect the latest extension for shelter-at-home orders in Dallas County. This will be updated.

Hours after Dallas County Commissioners extended a disaster declaration until May 20, the county's top elected official announced on Twitter that the so-called "safer-at-home" orders would continue until April 30.
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Jenkins signaled in subsequent tweets that he would reconsider how long to extend the stay-at-home order near the end of the month.

Republican Commissioner J.J. Koch told The Dallas Morning News that on Tuesday he'll press for Jenkins to consult the entire commissioners court before he extends the restrictions.

"We're going to have a very clear idea about how much longer we're going to need to do things on April 30th," Koch said.
Updated with the most recent clarifications from Dallas County.
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11:47a, 4/3/20
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Insanity.
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11:53a, 4/3/20
May 20 in currently insane. Make a decision on April 20, not April 3. Way too premature to make such a decision.
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In reply to TexAgs1992 • 11:55a, 4/3/20
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TexAgs1992 said:
May 20 in currently insane. Make a decision on April 20, not April 3. Way too premature to make such a decision.

You don't think they will change the date to earlier if things are looking good at the end of April?
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11:55a, 4/3/20
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He has gone mad. This is crazy.
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11:56a, 4/3/20
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I think they are doing this to give enough time for preparation. Instead of springing an extension at the end.

You can always retract the date if the numbers become positive and that would be an easier adjustment.
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11:57a, 4/3/20
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Two months!

I'll take "things that won't happen", for $200 please Alex.
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12:01p, 4/3/20
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You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
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In reply to chigger • 12:03p, 4/3/20
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chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
Peak, and be well under the projected healthcare needs.
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In reply to chigger • 12:03p, 4/3/20
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You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
If it is not peaking until the first week of May while we have been under quarantine for 6 weeks at that point, the quarantine is clearly not working.
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12:04p, 4/3/20
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We are not under quarantine. 2/3 of people are ignoring it. That's the reason.
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In reply to TxAG#2011 • 12:05p, 4/3/20
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TxAG#2011 said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
If it is not peaking until the first week of May while we have been under quarantine for 6 weeks at that point, the quarantine is clearly not working.


But it isn't a quarantine. It is a stay at home but go to grocery store.
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12:06p, 4/3/20
How can we be ignoring it when every social spot is shut down? Going out to the park is not breaking quarantine
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In reply to 88planoAg • 12:06p, 4/3/20
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TxAG#2011 said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
If it is not peaking until the first week of May while we have been under quarantine for 6 weeks at that point, the quarantine is clearly not working.


But it isn't a quarantine. It is a stay at home but go to grocery store.
So stop people going to the grocery store is what we need?
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12:08p, 4/3/20
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You Two months!

I'll take "things that won't happen", for $200 please Alex.
It will. Don't worry.
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In reply to chigger • 12:08p, 4/3/20
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then why would it peak in May? why not June?
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12:09p, 4/3/20
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Quarantine is NOT leaving your home or apartment at all. People with active cases are under quarantine. The stay home order is not quarantine because it allows many outings, including grocery shopping and some people go EVERY day. Stupid. No way you have essential needs every day. Buying a pineapple or an avocado is not essential.
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In reply to TxAG#2011 • 12:09p, 4/3/20
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TxAG#2011 said:
88planoAg said:
TxAG#2011 said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
If it is not peaking until the first week of May while we have been under quarantine for 6 weeks at that point, the quarantine is clearly not working.


But it isn't a quarantine. It is a stay at home but go to grocery store.
So stop people going to the grocery store is what we need?


Not what I'm saying at all. Explaining continued spread. Absolutely need people to have access to food.
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12:09p, 4/3/20
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This is economic armegedon.

Edit: I am a CPA and I am betting half my clients won't make it. Examples: One is a known restaurant/eatery in town, another owns eyecare centers; all shut down. I can go on and on. They are in full on panic mode right now. This extension is going to send some good hard-working folks over the edge. Going to have to flatten the curve at the mental health facilities pretty soon.
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12:10p, 4/3/20
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Don't get me wrong. This is going to suck, but I think May 20 is realistic and at least at this point, responsible, given the projections.

Edit: realistic meaning that is the earliest date that it will start becoming reasonably safe for people to start going back out somewhat normally.
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In reply to chigger • 12:10p, 4/3/20
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
Some of you people really just don't get it. Unemployment could soar to 20% in April... If they really want to salvage every day life in America then they are going to need to have a massive forgiveness program for missed mortgage payments, utilities, and even previous debts like credit cards and school loans. This is going to bury our population. I personally know several people who have already been laid off and many who are on the chopping block. But ya let's keep talking about a shutdown until the end of May. Idiots.
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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 12:14p, 4/3/20
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Quarantine is NOT leaving your home or apartment at all. People with active cases are under quarantine. The stay home order is not quarantine because it allows many outings, including grocery shopping and some people go EVERY day. Stupid. No way you have essential needs every day. Buying a pineapple or an avocado is not essential.
Ok I understand that, but people are going to do what they want. Those people will get punished. We are under the most restricted measure that are reasonable. At this point it seems like the "peak" just get's pushed back and back. Maybe the peak is really just a flat line that is the reality?
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In reply to Sb1540 • 12:14p, 4/3/20
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Larry Lajitas said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
Some of you people really just don't get it. Unemployment could soar to 20% in April... If they really want to salvage every day life in America then they are going to need to have a massive forgiveness program for missed mortgage payments, utilities, and even previous debts like credit cards and school loans. This is going to bury our population. I personally know several people who have already been laid off and many who are on the chopping block. But ya let's keep talking about a shutdown until the end of May. Idiots.


Lol. I knew I'd get a response like this. I apologize for putting your health as the highest priority. I know people too. My wife is one of them.
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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 12:16p, 4/3/20
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3rd Generation Ag said:
Quarantine is NOT leaving your home or apartment at all. People with active cases are under quarantine. The stay home order is not quarantine because it allows many outings, including grocery shopping ...
THANK YOU! I know it's weird to get worked up about semantics at a time like this, but stay-at-home =/ quarantine.
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In reply to chigger • 12:16p, 4/3/20
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well let's be honest

it's reasonably safe for the vast majority of the population to be out now

I'm pretty alarmist and I don't understand what two months of lockdown actually gets you compared to five weeks
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In reply to PJYoung • 12:17p, 4/3/20
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PJYoung said:
TexAgs1992 said:
May 20 in currently insane. Make a decision on April 20, not April 3. Way too premature to make such a decision.

You don't think they will change the date to earlier if things are looking good at the end of April?
They won't lift it; won't risk the backlash if they lift it earlier and then we have another cluster pop-up and people die. Channel 8 and the DMN will just keep preaching how we all have to "do our part".
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In reply to hatchback • 12:17p, 4/3/20
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3rd Generation Ag said:
Quarantine is NOT leaving your home or apartment at all. People with active cases are under quarantine. The stay home order is not quarantine because it allows many outings, including grocery shopping ...
THANK YOU! I know it's weird to get worked up about semantics at a time like this, but stay-at-home =/ quarantine.
I mean who cares? Most people think of the current situation as a quarantine
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12:19p, 4/3/20
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I could be wrong here, and please help me where I'm off.
The whole point of stay home and social distancing is to slow the spread so we don't overwhelm the health care system. Obviously NYC, Nola, LA, and some bigger cities are already teetering or over that threshold, but it seems like most hospitals are currently under full and this is working.

The other point of slowing the spread was to allow time for people to get infected, recover, and HOPEFULLY, develop immunity. I understand that's still up for debate.

How do we know when we've reached a point that the biggest wave of hospitalizations should have passed? How do we know when enough people should (hopefully) be immune that we can all get rolling again safely?

Seems that's what's at issue.
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At this point it seems like the "peak" just get's pushed back and back. Maybe the peak is really just a flat line that is the reality?


You literally just described "flattening the curve" have you not read or watched anything the last month?
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In reply to Sb1540 • 12:21p, 4/3/20
Larry Lajitas said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
Some of you people really just don't get it. Unemployment could soar to 20% in April... If they really want to salvage every day life in America then they are going to need to have a massive forgiveness program for missed mortgage payments, utilities, and even previous debts like credit cards and school loans. This is going to bury our population. I personally know several people who have already been laid off and many who are on the chopping block. But ya let's keep talking about a shutdown until the end of May. Idiots.
Oh enlightened one, what should we do? We recognize that this is going to be economically devastating. Given our current resources, ability (lack of) testing, and inability for people to take this seriously (see forum 16), we're stuck with this for now.


This thread should be moved.
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In reply to TxAG#2011 • 12:22p, 4/3/20
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TxAG#2011 said:
hatchback said:
3rd Generation Ag said:
Quarantine is NOT leaving your home or apartment at all. People with active cases are under quarantine. The stay home order is not quarantine because it allows many outings, including grocery shopping ...
THANK YOU! I know it's weird to get worked up about semantics at a time like this, but stay-at-home =/ quarantine.
I mean who cares? Most people think of the current situation as a quarantine
It matters. Maybe not as much anymore but semantics matter. 'total Wuhan lockdown'. 'lockdown'. 'we need to lock it down'. 'what counties are safe to travel through' to get your college student. 'can we go through a county on lockdown'.

All things I've read on social media, and all things that fan the flames of panic and sent people racing to the grocery store to clean out even more of the supply.



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In reply to Sb1540 • 12:22p, 4/3/20
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Larry Lajitas said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
Some of you people really just don't get it. Unemployment could soar to 20% in April... If they really want to salvage every day life in America then they are going to need to have a massive forgiveness program for missed mortgage payments, utilities, and even previous debts like credit cards and school loans. This is going to bury our population. I personally know several people who have already been laid off and many who are on the chopping block. But ya let's keep talking about a shutdown until the end of May. Idiots.
People get it. But there's nothing be can do about it.
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In reply to chigger • 12:24p, 4/3/20
chigger said:
Larry Lajitas said:
chigger said:
You know the current predictions are that it won't peak in Texas until the first week in May right? You think everyone should go back to normal at the peak? I think it should be the end of May personally.
Some of you people really just don't get it. Unemployment could soar to 20% in April... If they really want to salvage every day life in America then they are going to need to have a massive forgiveness program for missed mortgage payments, utilities, and even previous debts like credit cards and school loans. This is going to bury our population. I personally know several people who have already been laid off and many who are on the chopping block. But ya let's keep talking about a shutdown until the end of May. Idiots.


Lol. I knew I'd get a response like this. I apologize for putting your health as the highest priority. I know people too. My wife is one of them.
My health won't be the highest priority if I don't have any money to go to the doctor or I don't have a job that gives me insurance. Good thing we can trust our government to do the right thing...oh wait they will just bail out corporations and pay themselves while we all scramble around looking for work to provide for our families.
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In reply to cone • 12:24p, 4/3/20
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cone said:
well let's be honest

it's reasonably safe for the vast majority of the population to be out now

I'm pretty alarmist and I don't understand what two months of lockdown actually gets you compared to five weeks


To be honest. I somewhat agree with you. This thing though. I don't know. It transmits like crazy. I have a daughter with some lung issues. I have a couple listed comorbidities also. I'm not about taking that chance with her or myself. It's going to massively suck the next two months. I don't know what we are going to do. But I'd rather deal with that in the short term and let all our medical supplies, staff and protocol get caught up than run the massive risk of getting sick with this crap right now.
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