I still say requiring N95 masks isn't the way to go. Any kind of mask is better than none, and if you aren't using them 100% correctly, it defeats the purpose of going to the medical mask that could be better used elsewhere. Just my 2 cents.SidetrackAg said:yukmonkey said:
We are working on the "return to work" protocols for white-collar offices when gov'ts let us reopen.
A couple of questions I'm currently trying to answer:
- Are the temperature checks a good idea? Who wants to volunteer to be that guy?
- If PPE is required, would people even want to come in?
- What do we do if/when someone catches it? Do we shut down every time?
- What is the long term plan for this thing? Are we scared of it forever?
My office is in the same position. They've sent out emails about protocol for when we are able to open fully. They've mentioned everyone will be required to wear an N95, but so far have not purchased any. Implementing other "rules" that we have to sanitize everything, maintain social distancing everywhere, and no more than 1 person in a vehicle at a time. It's easy for me to stay away from everyone since I can just close the door to my office, but we have a group that are close to each other in cubes. I'm not sure how it's going to work out, or the morale once they call us all back
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Our issue with it is the morale side.
We are doing them for the hands-on warehouse type jobs where people have to work closely, but the WFH-types will not want to come back into an office that looks like a hospital ward.
We are doing them for the hands-on warehouse type jobs where people have to work closely, but the WFH-types will not want to come back into an office that looks like a hospital ward.
My office is in Richardson, so they're following whatever Dallas recommends. 
Eh. People are allowed to have emotions regarding decisions made above. And bosses that don't recognize that or are unwilling to accept the existence of, and hearing, critique probably are causing unnecessary turnover and likely aren't maximizing productivity at their "office", whatever form that may take.Quote:
You are free to leave your job if you feel your employer is being unreasonable. If you are the boss you can make the rules. If you're not the boss then tough luck.
You could become your own boss, but most people are too afraid to take that risk so they have no right to complain.
Obviously, its everyone's job to follow rules and voice criticisms, critiques, suggestions, etc. in a constructive way.
Yep. And it sounds bad, but I'm ready for a break from the kids as well.AggieAuditor said:
Damn I wish my company would let me come back to the office tomorrow. Tired of living in fear.
Ag_of_08 said:txag11 said:
I would guess that if they are ending it there's a definite economic incentive to do so.
That is definitely NOT a given. I have been listening to people for weeks that have seen no drop in productivity, but are furious that workers are being allowed to be "lazy" and not come in to the office while still doing their work.
There is a serious cultural bias against WAH, and it's not JUST generational.
From an article by Derek Thompson of the Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/
"Not all, to be sure. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 29 percent of Americans can work from home, including one in 20 service workers and more than half of information workers."
Seventy one percent of workers can't work from home and have zero productivity while at home. We will go into a depression if we don't go back to work. No amount of explaining how you can work at home gets around that fact.
That doesn't really contradict what the previous post is saying.geoag58 said:Ag_of_08 said:txag11 said:
I would guess that if they are ending it there's a definite economic incentive to do so.
That is definitely NOT a given. I have been listening to people for weeks that have seen no drop in productivity, but are furious that workers are being allowed to be "lazy" and not come in to the office while still doing their work.
There is a serious cultural bias against WAH, and it's not JUST generational.
From an article by Derek Thompson of the Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/
"Not all, to be sure. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 29 percent of Americans can work from home, including one in 20 service workers and more than half of information workers."
Seventy one percent of workers can't work from home and have zero productivity while at home. We will go into a depression if we don't go back to work. No amount of explaining how you can work at home gets around that fact.
29% of is a lot of people. 41 million, to be exact, according to that. And it squeaks up to about 1/3 once you take out teenagers and young adults are most likely in the service industry. Its over 50% for those with a bachelor's degree.
A lot of people do need to leave home to do their job. A lot don't.
My company went WFH after one test day. The network held up, so we are in week five and were told today it's indefinite. Our productivity company wide really hasn't slacked, I think it has shocked senior management to be honest. But it is amazing what can be done without ever seeing someone face to face. Entire large scale public facing application releases being done without anyone seeing each other. From prioritization, to the external comms, partner approvals, legal approval, senior management approval, requirements reviews and coding, testing, deployment, post release monitoring etc.
10 years ago that would have been a pipe dream.
10 years ago that would have been a pipe dream.
I work full-time remote/WFH. Prior to the position i'm in, i worked anywhere from 1-4 days a week at home.
I'm only talking about jobs that are capable of WFH in what i'm about to say, but it is this:
In my experience, lazy people are lazy regardless of where they are. I see posters say that there are people who will just click their mouse every once in a while or just play x box all day if they work from home. Guess what? Those same people are shopping on amazon, taking 16 cigarette breaks, and making a coffee run twice and hour when they are in the office. They are just as lazy, but they are wasting their time in a different manner.
Babysitting employees in the office to ensure they actually do work sounds like a bad situation.
I'm only talking about jobs that are capable of WFH in what i'm about to say, but it is this:
In my experience, lazy people are lazy regardless of where they are. I see posters say that there are people who will just click their mouse every once in a while or just play x box all day if they work from home. Guess what? Those same people are shopping on amazon, taking 16 cigarette breaks, and making a coffee run twice and hour when they are in the office. They are just as lazy, but they are wasting their time in a different manner.
Babysitting employees in the office to ensure they actually do work sounds like a bad situation.
TXAggie2011 said:That doesn't really contradict what the previous post is saying.geoag58 said:Ag_of_08 said:txag11 said:
I would guess that if they are ending it there's a definite economic incentive to do so.
That is definitely NOT a given. I have been listening to people for weeks that have seen no drop in productivity, but are furious that workers are being allowed to be "lazy" and not come in to the office while still doing their work.
There is a serious cultural bias against WAH, and it's not JUST generational.
From an article by Derek Thompson of the Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/
"Not all, to be sure. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 29 percent of Americans can work from home, including one in 20 service workers and more than half of information workers."
Seventy one percent of workers can't work from home and have zero productivity while at home. We will go into a depression if we don't go back to work. No amount of explaining how you can work at home gets around that fact.
29% of is a lot of people. 41 million, to be exact, according to that. And it squeaks up to about 1/3 once you take out teenagers and young adults are most likely in the service industry. Its over 50% for those with a bachelor's degree.
A lot of people do need to leave home to do their job. A lot don't.
And at the numbers you are talking about we will still have a depression if we don't get small businesses and their employees working again and soon. Only one out of five small businesses got the ppp loan and that is not enough to prevent a cascading depression causing event.
AggieOO said:
I work full-time remote/WFH. Prior to the position i'm in, i worked anywhere from 1-4 days a week at home.
I'm only talking about jobs that are capable of WFH in what i'm about to say, but it is this:
In my experience, lazy people are lazy regardless of where they are. I see posters say that there are people who will just click their mouse every once in a while or just play x box all day if they work from home. Guess what? Those same people are shopping on amazon, taking 16 cigarette breaks, and making a coffee run twice and hour when they are in the office. They are just as lazy, but they are wasting their time in a different manner.
Babysitting employees in the office to ensure they actually do work sounds like a bad situation.
What is this confession time?
We are staring at a worldwide depression if we don't get people working and only closing temporarily to prevent overloading hospitals when and where outbreaks occur. Let those who are unhealthy shelter in place until we achieve herd immunity or come up with a Tamiflu-like treatment for the china virus.
I have no idea what you are getting at. I made an observation about employees in the workplace relating to WFH, which was already being discussed.
Shouldn't have picked on you. Sorry.
lol 'most'SoupNazi2001 said:
This will be happening more and more around the country and most non healthcare employers are not going to be doing temperature checks or requiring masks unless required by the government. Most might want to start mentally preparing for this.
Either prepare or 'most' should harness that WFH power of productivity into their own WFH business and become an employer.