hey guys I'm no longer the doomer
what do I win?
what do I win?
Record Number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Texas
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Have no idea of the accuracy, but there is this site.cone said:
what's the current Rt in Texas?
https://rt.live/
Gordo14 said:ExpressAg11 said:
I think the issue is your perceived negative outlook on every post. And not saying you're wrong, Texas could definitely get a lot worse before it gets better. It could also turn itself around. Hopefully you don't mean to be so doom and gloom, but that's how it comes off.
Example: the post I'm replying to now
I only talk about those things because at least 50% of the posts are everything will be fine. Everything is fine. We should just ignore it.
Fyi everything is fine and is going to be fine. Cases will go up as we test more and a massive majority of those people will still be relatively unaffected. Feel free to stay home forever though.
J. Walter Weatherman said:Gordo14 said:ExpressAg11 said:
I think the issue is your perceived negative outlook on every post. And not saying you're wrong, Texas could definitely get a lot worse before it gets better. It could also turn itself around. Hopefully you don't mean to be so doom and gloom, but that's how it comes off.
Example: the post I'm replying to now
I only talk about those things because at least 50% of the posts are everything will be fine. Everything is fine. We should just ignore it.
Fyi everything is fine and is going to be fine. Cases will go up as we test more and a massive majority of those people will still be relatively unaffected. Feel free to stay home forever though.
There is a daylight between "everything is fine" and "we need to lock down so that no one ever gets sick"
Things are far from "everything is fine"
Things would be closer to fine if more people acted like things werent fine.
Aren't yall still in Phase 1 of reopening? Our numbers were also falling in Phase 1 and a few weeks in Phase 2.Gumby said:
More record lows here in Virginia today. The decrease has accelerated since we opened up and has not reversed course. Even with the recent protests, things are still sharply declining. 5 of the 6 deaths reported today occurred in nursing homes.
https://www.wavy.com/news/virginia/virginia-june-11-covid-19-update-4th-straight-day-of-low-case-numbers-reported-hospitalizations-continue-to-fall/
We declined 150 hospitalizations today.
But that doesn't fit the corona bro narrative.
But that doesn't fit the corona bro narrative.
I guess you are saying some people predicted it to go up today, and it did not? I like it going down and have no idea what it means or what will happen in the late fall. But I'm going to keep reading articles and studies here and there, even if far less obsessed with info gathering than I was in late March.Old Buffalo said:
We declined 150 hospitalizations today.
But that doesn't fit the corona bro narrative.
using "corona bro narrative" cracks me up, as if a group of pro corona people have grouped together to market it.
Not every topic has to get pushed to extremes, there aren't just two camps of people on this new virus - people saying we are all doomed and people who use phrases like "corona bro narrative".
I think the vast majority of people are in between the extremes - probably far from the extremes - and not repeatedly and noisily only posting the darkest of stats and predictions and not stating this is made up by globalists or the media.
Dazed and Confused said:Aren't yall still in Phase 1 of reopening? Our numbers were also falling in Phase 1 and a few weeks in Phase 2.Gumby said:
More record lows here in Virginia today. The decrease has accelerated since we opened up and has not reversed course. Even with the recent protests, things are still sharply declining. 5 of the 6 deaths reported today occurred in nursing homes.
https://www.wavy.com/news/virginia/virginia-june-11-covid-19-update-4th-straight-day-of-low-case-numbers-reported-hospitalizations-continue-to-fall/
No, most of the state entered phase 2 several weeks ago. Northern Virginia enters Phase 2 tomorrow.
Either a nothingburger or certain death, depending on who you talk to.cone said:
hey guys I'm no longer the doomer
what do I win?
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using "corona bro narrative" cracks me up, as if a group of pro corona people have grouped together to market it.
I don't know . . . .the nature if this disease has unleashed a pretty big psychological experiment. It has driven folks to extreme behaviors and the prophet of doom crowd is certainly one of them. The germa-phobe and clean freak crowd has also been identified
While Corona Bros is pretty immature and silly, it has validity. I have seen it with financial and economic cycles and other trends . . . .some people embrace and soak themselves in worst case scenarios and are motivated to publicly obsess about a perceived unfolding path to disaster.
I have read other terms . . . . "Catastrophising"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/contemplative-psychology/202003/covid-19-is-catastrophizing-clouding-decision-making
We all seem to grasp that this pandemic, while incredibly awful, is not anything new. We all can run the probabilities of our downside. We know that these things have historically run their course and society has marched on and we know that 10 years from now the global population will be facing some other set of issues and this will have faded. This doesn't prevent folks from constantly preaching about the incredible tragedy that is unfolding and castigating others about flippant attitudes towards this disease.
There are so many quotes about "controlling what you can control" that are helpful in this episode. All the folks trying to parse confusing health care statistics despite no research background, digging through medical research despite no medical training, etc. are just torturing themselves. All that we can really do is keep a safe distance, wash our hands, and take care of our immune systems. Everything else is wasted emotion and Bulls#$t.
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COVID patients in the hospital.
So we have a total of 30,000 confirmed COVID patients in the hospital today for these states? We have 2,153 today in Texas and 3,177 in California. So I don't believe this, without more info. Not sure that is what he is plotting or where he is getting his data.Keegan99 said:
COVID patients in the hospital.
Um... that's because it's national. And the data is from The COVID Tracking Project. (TCTP).
Thank You, that makes more sense. Sorry, I have been focused on Texas numbers for this thread. Glad I asked.Keegan99 said:
Um... that's because it's national. And the data is from The COVID Tracking Project. (TCTP).
here's what I've learned from the last two plus months of public health messaging
they will never ever tell the public they've done a good job, even when it's clear that praise is deserved
and that lack of positive feedback is just withering their ability to lead now
they will never ever tell the public they've done a good job, even when it's clear that praise is deserved
and that lack of positive feedback is just withering their ability to lead now
it is Bloomberg but there is this
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-11/houston-may-reopen-virus-hospital-at-stadium-as-cases-expand
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-11/houston-may-reopen-virus-hospital-at-stadium-as-cases-expand
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Houston-area officials are "getting close" to reimposing stay-at-home orders and are prepared to reopen a Covid-19 hospital established but never used at a football stadium as virus cases expand in the fourth-largest U.S. city.
The announcement by Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo and Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner on Thursday came a day after the Lone Star state recorded its highest one-day tally of new cases since the pandemic emerged.
Not gonna happen. Unless Abbott decides to reimpose a stay at home for the whole state, this won't happen.
To me this all sounds premature.
they can open field hospitals as needed
but there isn't going to be a stay at home that's obeyed
this might affect white collar workers who have been working remotely throughout
but there isn't going to be a stay at home that's obeyed
this might affect white collar workers who have been working remotely throughout
Two things about that story:
1) I have fond childhood memories of the San Antonio zoo. It's creepy they picked that picture for this story.
2) the graph in the story is something I might have tried to pass off as a first year graduate student. When you zoom all the way in 11% and 12% do look really different.
1) I have fond childhood memories of the San Antonio zoo. It's creepy they picked that picture for this story.
2) the graph in the story is something I might have tried to pass off as a first year graduate student. When you zoom all the way in 11% and 12% do look really different.
ExpressAg11 said:
Not gonna happen. Unless Abbott decides to reimpose a stay at home for the whole state, this won't happen.
He held back some counties from reopening, so he has shown that he would do county by county decisions.
We will see in coming days/weeks whether all of this is just noise in the data or the start of a new uptrend.
Nonetheless, it is an important reminder that we cannot let our guard down. We still have to keep good social distancing practices, personal hygiene, and even !!!mask wearing!!! to keep infection rates at a low/stable level to not cause continued rise in the numbers. None of us want a second wave. We can play a little part, be mindful, and prevent potential spread. Most of the suggested personal measures do no harm, and while they might cause you a small inconvenience, it's a smaller inconvenience than disrupting all of our lives for two months with a lockdown. It's giving up a little for the greater good of the community which we all share.
Mocking, belittling and arguments with others that want to raise some concern do no good here. We ALL need to have better, open discussions on the best measures and protocols to operate on communities with this lingering pest of a virus.
Nonetheless, it is an important reminder that we cannot let our guard down. We still have to keep good social distancing practices, personal hygiene, and even !!!mask wearing!!! to keep infection rates at a low/stable level to not cause continued rise in the numbers. None of us want a second wave. We can play a little part, be mindful, and prevent potential spread. Most of the suggested personal measures do no harm, and while they might cause you a small inconvenience, it's a smaller inconvenience than disrupting all of our lives for two months with a lockdown. It's giving up a little for the greater good of the community which we all share.
Mocking, belittling and arguments with others that want to raise some concern do no good here. We ALL need to have better, open discussions on the best measures and protocols to operate on communities with this lingering pest of a virus.
The Express-News twitter account is strange about that. Not the first time the photo doesn't match the story, or isn't right for whatever reason. Case in point, Selena's boobs:amercer said:
Two things about that story:
1) I have fond childhood memories of the San Antonio zoo. It's creepy they picked that picture for this story.
2) the graph in the story is something I might have tried to pass off as a first year graduate student. When you zoom all the way in 11% and 12% do look really different.
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He can make the decisions or cede power back to her, but that ain't happening. His order suspended the portion of the Government Code that allows county judges to impose shutdowns during states of emergency. Level 1 of her scale says "stay at home," but the only thing she can do is issue a fake stay at home order like the one that expired yesterday. She is legally powerless to do any more than that.
Yep, luckily for the small businesses and jobs that were either wiped out or nearly wiped out by this overreaction the grownups are in charge now.
TBH it matters relatively little if there's legal authority to issue a stay at home alert because the enforcement won't happen. But all the same it would create a moment of liability for employers to probably reinstate work from home, and filter into the news to the point most people would react, more or less achieving the same end.
Personally, I don't think Houston gets to that point, but we'll see either way in a few days I guess.
Personally, I don't think Houston gets to that point, but we'll see either way in a few days I guess.
Texas is 39th in the country in coronavirus deaths per capita. Its odd to see panic over 2 deaths and tens of hospitalizations in a county with 2 million people. Watching from the East Coast, the talk of a second wave in Texas is also odd. There really was no first wave in Texas. Texas has barely been touched. Most of the east coast states had as many deaths per capita by the end of March as Texas has in mid-June.
I didnt link to article for the bit about a stay at home order because I know that wont happen. I linked the article for the projection that they will need to reopen the off site hospitals.
Exactly. The "spike" in new cases is largely related to more testing generally and more people going into hospitals for elective procedures. All such people are tested, and the ones that are positive are coded as covid hospitalizations even if they are asymptomatic. Also, if you dig into ICU stats like 75% of ICU patients are non-covid right now.Gumby said:
Texas is 39th in the country in coronavirus deaths per capita. Its odd to see panic over 2 deaths and tens of hospitalizations in a county with 2 million people. Watching from the East Coast, the talk of a second wave in Texas is also odd. There really was no first wave in Texas. Texas has barely been touched. Most of the east coast states had as many deaths per capita by the end of March as Texas has in mid-June.
There is no second wave. There is no first wave.
Can you quantify what statistic in Texas that would constitute a first wave?agforlife97 said:Exactly. The "spike" in new cases is largely related to more testing generally and more people going into hospitals for elective procedures. All such people are tested, and the ones that are positive are coded as covid hospitalizations even if they are asymptomatic. Also, if you dig into ICU stats like 75% of ICU patients are non-covid right now.Gumby said:
Texas is 39th in the country in coronavirus deaths per capita. Its odd to see panic over 2 deaths and tens of hospitalizations in a county with 2 million people. Watching from the East Coast, the talk of a second wave in Texas is also odd. There really was no first wave in Texas. Texas has barely been touched. Most of the east coast states had as many deaths per capita by the end of March as Texas has in mid-June.
There is no second wave. There is no first wave.
There were 12,000 flu and pneumonia deaths in Texas in 2017. I would think a first wave would approach the number of deaths in a normal flu season. So far there have been 2,000 COVID deaths in Texas.
Thank you, for quantifying your criteria. Some use words like peak and wave and its not obvious their definition.Gumby said:
There were 12,000 flu and pneumonia deaths in Texas in 2017. I would think a first wave would approach the number of deaths in a normal flu season. So far there have been 2,000 COVID deaths in Texas.
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