When do you think we're done with masks?

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JP_Losman
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Kyle Field will be packed with no masks by September.

Book it
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Honestly if the south doesn't have state remove the mandate by summer people are just going to stop wearing them since it is so hot. But I know a lot of people recently that were in places with very strict mask mandates and still got it. My 2.5 year old daughter got it from her teacher who has to wear a mask and change their gloves like every 30 minutes. Likely she passed it to her brother and we will find out about me.

With the majority of the spreading happening in homes it appears that unless you have a N95 on at all times this thing just needs to run its course. Doctor today said everyone in the house needs to wear a N95, goggles, and gloves to prevent the spread. I am not making my 2.5 wear all that because 3 minutes later all will be off. Plus she had symptoms for 4 hours.

Open everything up without mask and if you want to go out then go out, if you want to wear a mask wear one. Vaccinations for most will happen in the next few months if you want one. Mandating kids getting vaccinations with a large portion of them already getting it is insane and a waste of shots.
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If you look at the rate of the vaccine, roughly 25 million people inoculated so far and we are about a month in. Assume they get somewhat better with vaccinations where we can do 35-40 million per month, that means roughly 200 million will be vaccinated by summer. At that point herd immunity should take over.

The J&J Vaccine is a game changer, because it requires only one shot and basically makes the virus like a cold, you get it but minimal issues. We will be back to "normal" by summer if it gets approved shortly.

Normal may mean a booster vaccination once a year, but otherwise normal.
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This thing escaped a level 4 biolab. Consider the amount of PPE and precautions they take.

Cheap masks do nothing.
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Texas: May
Rest of Country: July/August
New York: who knows
Windy City Ag
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Quote:

This thing escaped a level 4 biolab. Consider the amount of PPE and precautions they take.

Cheap masks do nothing.
I read how difficult it was for pathogens to escape the unbelievable security at the CDC labs. I think you have a point here.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0716/Lapses-at-high-security-CDC-labs-reveal-culture-of-negligence

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Revelations of safety breaches at federal biosecurity laboratories reveal gaping holes in safety protocols, a lack of independent oversight, and an apparent culture of hubris among researchers who work with dangerous biological agents, biosecurity experts say.

In the past week, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced three separate incidents:
  • In June, scientists at the CDC's Bioterrorism Rapid Response and Advanced Technology lab exposed 80 unprotected workers to pathogenic anthrax.
  • Weeks earlier, the CDC's influenza lab shipped samples of a benign avian flu virus that had been cross-contaminated with more pernicious strain to a US Department of Agriculture facility.
  • Researchers at a Federal Drug Administration lab operated by National Institutes and Health uncovered long forgotten vials containing the smallpox virus circa 1954 that were supposed to be consigned to international repositories.
The incidents have shone a light on a broader issue of lapses in safety and security at bio labs operated and funded by the federal government.
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August
3rd Generation Ag
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I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.
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I wouldn't enjoy wearing a bra either
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jopatura said:

I will be shocked if kids go back to public school without masks on. Illnesses are down in school kids in big numbers this year. I think they'll use that to push forever masks on the kids.

I sub and the teachers are way too happy about not having to deal with parents in person anymore. Send off a few more emails, schedule a Zoom call that they can control... they aren't taking their foot off the gas on this pandemic until they absolutely have too. Once they concede masks, they have to let parents in the building again.
failure numbers are up across the board. Both in person and online. My wife's students are zombies.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.
because they are 100% dehumanizing. If I cannot see your facial expressions nor can you see mine we both become monotone robots. That isn't living, that is imprisonment.
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CastleRock said:

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Just random opinions. Had a conversation with someone yesterday who said another 18-24 months. I said way less and kids would be in school in fall without them. My hope is we're all burning them in massive July 4th bonfires.

Once a majority of the >65 population is vaccinated I don't see any reason masks should be worn.

What are others thinking both should happen and will happen?

I'd guess a long, long, long, time.

We are still taking our shoes off at the airport, and that was 20 years ago.
i haven't taken my shoes off in three years. Not have I once removed a liquid toiletry item in the last decade.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.


No you don't. I wear one 45+ hours a week at work, they suck. I tend to sip coffee and/or snack throughout the day rather than eat a big lunch. In addition they take any humanity out of things. All expressions, all emotions. It's just completely unnatural

Couldn't disagree more with those that say they aren't a big deal. They suck something awful.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.


I will never understand why people are so anti freedom. Just try freedom all the time and you get used to it. Now leave me the hell alone.
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From your mouth to God's ear!
Gordo14
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May- June. Once the systemic risk is over we won't need them anymore.
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Gordo14 said:

May- June. Once the systemic risk is over we won't need them anymore.
once school is out for sure
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.


I'd rather set those puppies free if we're being honest.
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Ragoo said:

Gordo14 said:

May- June. Once the systemic risk is over we won't need them anymore.
once school is out for sure


Or just about the point around 55-70% of the population will be immune heading into the summer with a seasonally driven respiratory virus.
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This summer. More people outside with better vitamin D levels, much or most of the population vaccinated or with some immunity from having had it already, the virus less able to spread due to more sun and drier, warmer air, and the weak who were vulnerable already largely having been affected if they were going to be, and enough people finally aware of how completely ineffective nearly all masks really have been all this time, people will get fed up and revolt en masse in many areas.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.
Well, for starters, they are an obstruction to verbal and non-verbal communication, which we have relied on as a species for 20,000 years.

They have been marketed as "protecting others, not the wearer" which isn't my job.

Anything other than a disposable mask changed every hour is just gross and dirty.

I could go on, but that seems like reason enough right there.
#CertifiedSIP
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Our grand kids will not be vaccinated, period. That's idiotic.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.

No.
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Don't need a mandate to wear a mask to the grocery store. If it works a little bit then I'm ok in the short term. Not a huge fan of masks for the younger kids in school because it makes teaching harder. I'm ok if teachers wear them or if they are mandated to and frankly they should be properly fitted with n95's especially if over 50.

That said I think with vaccinations and so many people having had it that mask wearing will wane as we get into Spring and fade in Summer.
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wbt5845 said:

It's going to take what amounts to a mass revolt.


I'm in for this and can honestly say I never wear one.
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I've just never been a big fan of face diapers...

Fortunately where I am no mask mandate has ever been enforced. Some people choose to wear them, but nobody really cares if you do/don't. Everyone behaves in a civil manner, regardless of whether you have one on or not.
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Spring 2022 since you wanted an approximate timeline.
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CFTXAG10 said:

I think it is more likely at some point in late spring or early summer that they encourage at-risk groups to continue to mask up and maybe even encourage the public at large to mask up but remove the mandates, especially for those who are vaccinated. That goes for fed, state, and local.


Why would the at risk group need to protect the rest of us? Haven't you heard, masks don't protect the wearer, just the people around the wearer. That's why we all need to do our part. /s

If you can't see the writing on the wall that masks aren't going away then you aren't paying attention. It only stops when people refuse to wear them. I'm doing my part.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.
They are uncomfortable, especially when the weather starts to heat up again. And on a personal note, anytime we go out with our baby, she reacts completely differently to us when we're wearing our masks. I'm tired of seeing my child confused because she can't read our facial expressions.
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I think one of the worst things about masks (and I hate wearing them so much) is what it is likely doing to babies and young children. It just can't be good for them, and those formative years are SO important.
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Capitol Ag said:

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I've had both doses of the vaccine but will keep wearing one until there are unused doses of the vaccine without an arm to go in. The moment that happens I am done with masks and will purposely not wear one anywhere unless asked. If everyone does that the stores and other businesses will just stop enforcing it and masks will be done. My guess is that time is coming by June.
Here in Collin County most stores don't enforce the mandate. I am sure other areas of the state are the opposite, but here, my friends who don't mask tell me no one really bothers them. I think most retail stores would just rather avoid the drama of trying to enforce the mandate and it's honestly above most of these workers' paygrade. So here the transition will very easy and smooth. Austin might be another story. The city and many of my Austin friends are much more invested in the mandate. I see this taking longer in those communities. I do think that once the state drops their mandate, the counties will not be aloud to enforce their own, as I thought the Governor stated that any state level trumps the county and city level. So if the state declares there is no need to mask, a county cannot override that. I could be VERY wrong on this though.
In the small town where I live and in surrounding small towns I visit (all under 10,000 in population) mask wearing has been declining for several months now. Even in some of the places that got all serious at first and put up the plexiglass shields not a single employee, behind the shield or not, wears a mask anymore. Despite county and city required signage, one restaurant has a larger sign that says "masks are suggested." I would guess I see about 20% to 30% of people wearing one, depending on where I am at the time, and half of them are not wearing them properly. Since this began, I have seen zero enforcement. Even those in city and county government who came up with the mask orders or ordinances don't comply.

I also know way more people who have gotten covid in the past 4 to 6 weeks. Most feel bad a couple of days, have to quarantine from work, but the only effect seems to be a temporary loss of smell and taste.
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AggieSarah01 said:

I think one of the worst things about masks (and I hate wearing them so much) is what it is likely doing to babies and young children. It just can't be good for them, and those formative years are SO important.

Italy just ended masks in schools.
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3rd Generation Ag said:

I will never understand why people are so anti mask. Wear one all the time and you get used to it. Like wearing a bra.
what's the limiting principle?

are masks to be worn into perpetuity?

flu kills people every year. same with RSV. if we can save those lives via masking, why wouldn't it be a moral imperative?
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30wedge said:

Capitol Ag said:

Dad said:

I've had both doses of the vaccine but will keep wearing one until there are unused doses of the vaccine without an arm to go in. The moment that happens I am done with masks and will purposely not wear one anywhere unless asked. If everyone does that the stores and other businesses will just stop enforcing it and masks will be done. My guess is that time is coming by June.
Here in Collin County most stores don't enforce the mandate. I am sure other areas of the state are the opposite, but here, my friends who don't mask tell me no one really bothers them. I think most retail stores would just rather avoid the drama of trying to enforce the mandate and it's honestly above most of these workers' paygrade. So here the transition will very easy and smooth. Austin might be another story. The city and many of my Austin friends are much more invested in the mandate. I see this taking longer in those communities. I do think that once the state drops their mandate, the counties will not be aloud to enforce their own, as I thought the Governor stated that any state level trumps the county and city level. So if the state declares there is no need to mask, a county cannot override that. I could be VERY wrong on this though.
In the small town where I live and in surrounding small towns I visit (all under 10,000 in population) mask wearing has been declining for several months now. Even in some of the places that got all serious at first and put up the plexiglass shields not a single employee, behind the shield or not, wears a mask anymore. Despite county and city required signage, one restaurant has a larger sign that says "masks are suggested." I would guess I see about 20% to 30% of people wearing one, depending on where I am at the time, and half of them are not wearing them properly. Since this began, I have seen zero enforcement. Even those in city and county government who came up with the mask orders or ordinances don't comply.

I also know way more people who have gotten covid in the past 4 to 6 weeks. Most feel bad a couple of days, have to quarantine from work, but the only effect seems to be a temporary loss of smell and taste.


In Junction no one's wears them except maybe a few in the grocery store. Thats it. The cigarette smoke in the ahardware store there will probably kill Covid.
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