Breakthrough cases from Mexico

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Less Evil Hank Scorpio
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My gf tested positive yesterday after finding out some girls from a bachelorette trip she went on last weekend tested positive. 18 in attendance, so far 13 positive tests. All were vaccinated well in advance. Mix of Pfizer and Moderna. Mild symptoms for most, although one apparently has some chest pain. GF only has congestion and a mildly sore throat along with some lethargy.

I have no symptoms yet. I've read its unlikely to pass from one vaccinated person to another which leads me to wonder how so many of them got it. All tested negative for their flights home, symptoms started late Tuesday and into Wednesday for most/all of them.

Variants suck. **** COVID. I was supposed to be celebrating with friends this weekend but now get to stay home for 10 days.

Edit: final tally is actually only 12 of 18. Made a mistake in counting originally.
coolerguy12
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Why would you stay home if you're vaccinated?
Jbob04
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Another reason not to get vaccinated.
Petrino1
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Why are you quarantining? Just get tested, and if youre negative then go on with your life.
Less Evil Hank Scorpio
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We live together. Just following the advice of the doctors and nurses I've asked about it.
gunan01
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Editing my post because I read your OP incorrectly.

Per the CDC, if you are vaccinated and asymptomatic, you don't need to quarantine even if you've been in contact with an infected person.
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If vaccinated and no symptoms why would you not be fully out in the public? pretty sure your "viral loads" (as people like to say) would be impossible to transmit.

I dont get the reactions to this virus...




edit: I just need to stay off this board.....
gunan01
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I would just tested just prior to your shindig, and if negative, go enjoy the gathering.

That would calm the minds of all in attendance, too.
Less Evil Hank Scorpio
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Would a negative test really be worth anything if I'm continuously being exposed since Tuesday? Unlikely I would test positive until after the event (tomorrow) even if I do have it now.
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gunan01
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It's a good question

A negative test doesn't 100% rule out that you're infected (due to incubation period and risk of false negative with the test) but it's better than nothing.

In the end, it's up to you and everyone that attends the party to decide their level of risk tolerance. I personally would have no problem attending a gathering with you in this situation, assuming you tested negative.
gunan01
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I will say something seems really odd about this. Basically this would indicate a complete failure of the vaccine if 13/18 folks tested positive and all were vaccinated. Vaccine failure rate is really low based on available data, regardless of which vaccine.

Hoping they aren't the index cases for a new variant.
Less Evil Hank Scorpio
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gunan01 said:

I will say something seems really odd about this. Basically this would indicate a complete failure of the vaccine if 13/18 folks tested positive and all were vaccinated. Vaccine failure rate is really low based on available data, regardless of which vaccine.

Hoping they aren't the index cases for a new variant.
Yeah it is very strange. My only thought is they must have had prolonged exposure to someone with a very high viral load.
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GarlandAg2012 said:

My gf tested positive yesterday after finding out some girls from a bachelorette trip she went on last weekend tested positive. 18 in attendance, so far 13 positive tests. All were vaccinated well in advance. Mix of Pfizer and Moderna. Mild symptoms for most, although one apparently has some chest pain. GF only has congestion and a mildly sore throat along with some lethargy.

I have no symptoms yet. I've read its unlikely to pass from one vaccinated person to another which leads me to wonder how so many of them got it. All tested negative for their flights home, symptoms started late Tuesday and into Wednesday for most/all of them.

Variants suck. **** COVID. I was supposed to be celebrating with friends this weekend but now get to stay home for 10 days.

Real question is... how many covid positive male strippers did your gf and others come into "very close" contact with?
gunan01
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Vaccine success rate with Pfizer and Moderna is around 95%. This was shown in clinical trials when COVID-19 was more prevalent in society.

It is much less prevalent now, so that level of vaccine failure should raise alarm bells.

Pfizer vaccine allegedly works against delta variant, but you have to wonder if that's real.
Diggity
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Possibly some of these gals were lying about being vaccinated? Those odds just seem crazy.

This would be a headline on CNN if word got out.
coolerguy12
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Quote:

Evaluate your own personal risk, take precautions that you choose and move on with life.


Preach!!!!
Less Evil Hank Scorpio
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Anything is possible but they are all being very up front about symptoms, which vaccine they got, how theyre handling it, etc so I suspect not. No way to know for sure though. Its frustrating that this is a possibility but TexAgs has definitely taught me there are plenty of people willing to lie about that without regard for how it affects those around them.
Diggity
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well keep us updated...that would be very worrisome for older folks and such.
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GarlandAg2012 said:

Anything is possible but they are all being very up front about symptoms, which vaccine they got, how theyre handling it, etc so I suspect not. No way to know for sure though. Its frustrating that this is a possibility but TexAgs has definitely taught me there are plenty of people willing to lie about that without regard for how it affects those around them.
LOL you learned this on texags????
Jbob04
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Yeah I'm pretty sure CNN would bury this story
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I thought the vaccines protected against the Delta and natural immunity didnt! ?

Get Off My Lawn
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Sorry buddy, but my bet is "covid" is the cover story to get these girls in and out of the doc w/o arising suspicions...
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Diggity
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SoupNazi2001 said:

gunan01 said:

Vaccine success rate with Pfizer and Moderna is around 95%. This was shown in clinical trials when COVID-19 was more prevalent in society.

It is much less prevalent now, so that level of vaccine failure should raise alarm bells.

Pfizer vaccine allegedly works against delta variant, but you have to wonder if that's real.


The trials were very early on when Covid wasn't as prevalent and their weren't as many variants out there. How many people were in the trials vs how many people have received the vaccine? 95% effective means you basically don't get hospitalized or die but many vaccinated individuals will get cold or flu like symptoms. We need to go back to living pre 2020. We know what groups are at risk and they can choose precautions if they want.
what are you basing this on?
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GarlandAg2012 said:

We live together. Just following the advice of the doctors and nurses I've asked about it.
Thank you for doing the decent thing in light of the break through strain your gf caught.
Diggity
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whether or not we believe the numbers will bear out...the 95% number thrown around was related to testing positive for Covid...not severity of symptoms.
SBISA Victim
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It's also possible they've only had one dose of the vaccine.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

Diggity said:

whether or not we believe the numbers will bear out...the 95% number thrown around was related to testing positive for Covid...not severity of symptoms.


Do you really think that 95% number will play out and be accurate as the virus mutates. Flu vaccine effectiveness is typically 25% to 50%.
Seems to me that maybe the trials were set up to show more effectiveness than what real world applications will show....


Might would equal more profits??
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SoupNazi2001 said:

gunan01 said:

Vaccine success rate with Pfizer and Moderna is around 95%. This was shown in clinical trials when COVID-19 was more prevalent in society.

It is much less prevalent now, so that level of vaccine failure should raise alarm bells.

Pfizer vaccine allegedly works against delta variant, but you have to wonder if that's real.


The trials were very early on when Covid wasn't as prevalent and their weren't as many variants out there. How many people were in the trials vs how many people have received the vaccine? 95% effective means you basically don't get hospitalized or die but many vaccinated individuals will get cold or flu like symptoms. We need to go back to living pre 2020. We know what groups are at risk and they can choose precautions if they want.
This is not accurate
Diggity
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not really sure what you're arguing. Your statement was incorrect.
Charpie
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First off, I hope you're girlfriend is OK!

If true, this could be very bad.
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