Recently Graduated Aggie Struggling

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Aggies,

I feel like A&M has let me down. I originally applied at A&M for computer science before even knowing what ETAM was. It is one of those things you don't really learn about till you're already in it. Never heard of it, even when speaking with advisors before I applied to A&M. Long story short I fell short of the 3.5 GPA requirement. I had a 3.2 my freshman year. So I didn't get my first choice, also didn't get my second nor third. The only options they offered me were electrical engineering and electronic systems engineering technology. I ended up choosing ESET since it sounded the most like computer science. This is when Covid struck and changed everything.

Classes were all online. We had 5x more homework since they expected us to have more free time. I started failing my classes because I was alone, lost, and in a major that I didn't even want. I was doing everything I could to learn, but it is hard for me to just learn from my computer. I was already a year in and I felt robbed. Decided to switch majors after failing some of my classes and getting honor coded. Ended up being in the transition program for a year after that, taking classes that I would need for the new major that I wanted. I originally wanted to go for economics but then decided to go for accounting. None of the advisors I had at A&M ever helped me. They expected me to do everything on my own, which I did. The only good advisor I had was this one really nice older lady in the transition program. The rest of them just told me stuff I already knew, didn't help me with what I needed, and most were just rude and talked down on me. By the time I became eligible to switch majors I was already over their 60 credit hour cutoff. What was the point of taking classes to become eligible for a major change if it was just going to lock me out of my options? One of the only majors left that sounded interesting to me was university studies business, which at that time was still in Mays. I could get a business degree and get two minors with it? Sounded amazing to me.

Fast forward a bit more, most of the classes I had taken for this major were online. The videos were prerecorded and there were almost a thousand students in each class. I had a finance class that was completely online. No lectures. No videos. Just an online textbook we had to buy along with 3 other discussion sites which we also had to buy. I taught myself finance from a book. That should say something. I ended up going for an economics minor and a philosophy minor. Everything was going well until I had Margaret Ray for an economics class. Do not take her if you don't have to.

Fast forward to graduation. I'm one semester away and A&M decides to take my major out of Mays and discontinue the degree. I was the last graduating class in that major. Every semester before the degree had read Mays. Mine read University Studies. Now I am 4 months out of graduation still looking for a job. Most jobs require experience already, which I understand for senior level positions, but not entry level. I apply for every job I come across. I've used AggieNetwork, Indeed, LinkedIn, Glassdoor, and ZipRecruiter. I've even applied to companies directly through their careers page. I must be well over +1000 applications by now. Before you say anything, yes I've reworked my resume multiple times. I've met with different professionals and hiring managers to make my resume as good as it can be. I've gotten more responses since then, but still no bites. I've gotten quite a few different interviews. The only people that seem like they want me are part of pyramid schemes and MLMs. I've only gotten offers for sales positions, most of which are 100% commission based selling ****ty products and services. I decided to take a step back and start lower. I applied to a few different starting positions at HEB. You know the jobs that kids in high school get. I got rejected from all of them. I can't even get a stocking position at HEB. I am not going to work a sales position or anything under $18/hour because I wouldn't even be able to pay rent at that point.

I am just at a loss for words. I feel like A&M screwed me over. I spent $100+ grand on a piece of paper that didn't give me anything in return. I learned a lot in college, but I don't credit it to the university. I've had good professors and bad professors, and don't get me wrong there are a lot of terrible ones. But there are also a few really great ones, and they made it all worth it. Now that I am graduated I am living back home with my grandparents. They're pushing me to find a job and move out but I literally can't do anything else except go back to school, which even then doesn't promise a job. I'm fine with starting at the bottom and working my way up. I love learning, and the best education is experience. I just need somewhere to start. I need someone who is willing to take a chance, but it seems like everyone only wants the best. Having a degree only says you showed up somewhere every day for the past 4 years. What ever happened to companies training new employees? Now everyone expects you to have a masters degree at least with 5+ years of super industry specific experience. I just don't know what to do anymore. If anyone could offer advice I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Sounds like a bad situation, for sure. You say you had some good professors. Perhaps contact a few of those who you knew/connected to best and see if they have any contacts that you can leverage. Sorry, that's all I can think to suggest. Good luck.
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Now I am 4 months out of graduation still looking for a job.
I had a job offer revoked as I graduated and left college jobless into the height of the 2008 financial crisis. Companies stop hiring and people were getting laid off left and right. The job market was full of people with similar educations and way more experience.

Long story short, keep your head down, you've got time on your side, pick an industry you think you want to be in or an industry close to that and hyperfocus finding some kind a gig in that industry. You may/will be poor for awhile. You won't be the first nor the last. Work you ass off, understand that you professional education is only starting, keep learning and it will work it's self out. Don't assume you are above anything, bartend and uber to make ends meet while you hunt for the right job. It will come, I know it can seem bleak when your in it, but keep trying, work hard, do what you got to do and things will work out in the end.
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I don't know how you guys manage now with a larger A&M, pandemic shutdown, mostly online classes, etc. It's a different A&M than what I attended.

Good luck. You're getting some good advice here.
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1 - where are you wanting to work?

2 - I know you are willing to do anything, but what is your preferred profession? Do you want to code for a living?

You seem desperate. Given your situation and background, that's understandable. But you can't convey that during your job search.

Based on your answers to the above, I may have some more specific advice to help.
Tanya 93
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Sign up to be a sub in schools and donate plasma twice a week.

Door Dash in the evenings.

Yes, it will suck but it shows a desire to work


Good luck
Wolfpac 08
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This. I also graduated in 2008 and had a hard time landing a job. Moved back in with my parents and got a job working nights at Brookshires. For 9 months I spent my days applying and reaching out to any and every one looking for an opportunity, and spent my nights stocking shelves (9pm-9am).

I wound up with an unpaid internship that I did alongside my night job until the internship turned into a paying gig. Even then I was only making $26k/year. I got out of the job working nights, but had to pick up a job at a laser tag place. So I was working 8-5 at my "real" job, then 6-midnight at my side-gig (and Saturday/Sunday). After a couple of years doing that (with a third job sprinkled in for a while) - I started applying for better positions and found myself a better paying job and my career began to take off.

All that to say, take what you can get, especially if you have family you can fall back on (like your grandparents). Put your head down, work your ass off, and be ok doing nothing but working and being poor for a while.

If you do, good things will eventually happen.
girlfriend_experience
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Join the coast guard be an officer I would have done this if I didn't get a corporate job by luck out of college.
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Sometimes you just have to keep working to find a path forward, even if it means taking some detours along the way. I got a B.S. in political science from A&M and my first job out of school was literally picking up dead bodies for funeral homes. I applied for more than 150 jobs until I landed an entry level position that happened to be in a field loosely related to my degree.
Moral High Horse
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But did you have fun?
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College overall isn't what it used to be. The entire college system has become diluted in numerous ways.

Am I proud of my A&M degree? Hell yes. But I tell people all the time, "People don't care that you went to A&M. They care that you care, and how hard you work." Everything else takes care of itself.

It'll all work out. It always does.
FatZilla
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Military officer school? 4 year degree in hand it shouldn't be too hard to get in. Lots of benefits once you leave the service and hiring loves to get the benefits of hiring a vet.
BurnetAggie99
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Looks at OCS with one of the Military Branches and serve in the military as long as you want to.
Wolfpac 08
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Don't join the military, kid
NoahAg
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I originally applied at A&M for computer science before even knowing what ETAM was. It is one of those things you don't really learn about till you're already in it.

They told us about the ETAM process w/in 5 minutes when we took our son to an Engineering open house last year. They also said something like 80% of students get their 1st or 2nd choice, and nearly everyone gets their 3rd.
LupinusTexensis
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Another option is to marry rich and become a SAHD and pursue all hobbies.
Mega Lops
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If this post is serious, look at learning a trade. Electrician, HVAC, welding, demo/restoration, plumbing... Apprentice for a few years. Start your own business after that.


LandArchSA
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I concur, as ETAM was a selling point for my son going in as a freshman last year. Not sure how the OP missed that part, but I guess it's possible?
girlfriend_experience
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lol your first mistake was thinking some dumb **** state employees give a **** about you at a huge uni like A&M
eeinoilandgas
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So you WANTED to be computer science, but never learned to code? Learn to code, kid. Youtube, or even an actual class on Python and you're only 5 years away from a 6-figure salary.
girlfriend_experience
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eeinoilandgas said:

So you WANTED to be computer science, but never learned to code? Learn to code, kid. Youtube, or even an actual class on Python and you're only 5 years away from a 6-figure salary.
actually AI will do all that going forward
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Al Bula said:

If this post is serious, look at learning a trade. Electrician, HVAC, welding, demo/restoration, plumbing... Apprentice for a few years. Start your own business after that.
Agreed, and also look at technical trade jobs in undesirable locations where they need people and housing is provided.

Government contractors working overseas that require US citizens for certain jobs, etc.
Wolfpac 08
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Al Bula said:

If this post is serious, look at learning a trade. Electrician, HVAC, welding, demo/restoration, plumbing... Apprentice for a few years. Start your own business after that.




This is great advice. Boomers are dropping like flies. This is going to be a hot market.
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Al Bula said:

If this post is serious, look at learning a trade. Electrician, HVAC, welding, demo/restoration, plumbing... Apprentice for a few years. Start your own business after that.



I'm constantly looking for welders! It's hard finding someone who wants to physically work. They're all holding out for management positions!
Wolfpac 08
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My dad was a barber and he told me (like that entire generation told my generation) to "go to college and get a real job"….now that generation is dying and there's no one to take their place because we all took their advice and went to college…cash in, son
dyro
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It was different 5 years ago
dyro
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I'm not certified, but I know how to weld! I grew up on a farm, so I learned and did a lot.
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Covid lockdown was awful. Full agree there. I feel ya because I was a sophomore in engineering myself when it hit. So I get it. Zoom university is an absolute travesty and most here won't understand the true pains of it. That being said, we just all had to suck it up and push on. Hell, that first lockdown semester ended up being one of my better semesters, GPA wise. I just don't ever want to think about the stress and misery it took to get it, ever again.

Just gotta keep grinding. DO. NOT. STOP. Everything you are doing is the right path. Just gotta stay on it. It's a tough time in a lot of job markets right now. Visit the job board here and look around there. An opportunity will present itself eventually. In the meantime pick up a part time job if you need to. Look up Prolific and sign up. Great way to get some gas money. Go into survival mode while still keeping up your job hunt grind. You'll make it. Honestly, it's not terribly uncommon for new grads to struggle like this. I got lucky after college but man did I pay my "universe hates you and only you" dues after leaving service. Some grim times. I wasn't eating out of garbage cans but I wasn't that far from it either. Thankfully, the USMC prepares the **** out of you for that way of living.

This is just a speed bump in the grand scheme of life. A lot of us struggle like this at some point. You'll get through it. Just like we did.
dyro
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Who said I didn't know how to code? My school never offered anything close to coding or engineering, but that doesn't mean I didn't teach myself. Took a few coding classes in my college career as well.
dyro
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I grew up in a fully Aggie family. Both sides were Aggies. I had been brainwashed since I was a kid so I always told myself I would go there even though I didn't know any better. After being there a year I often wish I would've applied elsewhere to just see what I could've gotten. 3.94 GPA in High School and fourth in the class so I would've had a pretty good chance. But senior year me didn't know any better, or even think to do what I wanted instead of what others wanted for me.
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Moral High Horse said:

But did you have fun?
Not the right time, but you still get a pass because that was pretty damn funny
Apache
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I literally can't do anything else except go back to school, which even then doesn't promise a job.
You're young, presumably you have your health. You have family that loves you & your grandparents are still alive. Many on this site would trade untold thousands of dollars to have a few of these things.

"Literally" you have hundreds of possible choices. The world is your oyster. You have a degree & a drive to work. It's just a matter of time before something falls into your lap. Might not be your dream job, but every door you walk through is an opportunity to learn, network & explore this roller coaster called life.

Get into a daily routine of working out, eating healthy, applying for jobs & networking like crazy. Go to Aggie happy hours. Volunteer somewhere. You got this.

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-military/OCS
-learn a trade
-chemical plant/refienry operator (lots of $$$$$)
-teach
Ervin Burrell
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Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and you'll be making 7 figs in no time.
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dyro said:

Most jobs require experience already, which I understand for senior level positions, but not entry level. I apply for every job I come across. I've used AggieNetwork, Indeed, LinkedIn, Glassdoor, and ZipRecruiter. I've even applied to companies directly through their careers page. I must be well over +1000 applications by now. Before you say anything, yes I've reworked my resume multiple times. I've met with different professionals and hiring managers to make my resume as good as it can be. I've gotten more responses since then, but still no bites. I've gotten quite a few different interviews.
You didn't mention Career Fair or the Career Center. All of my offers came through those two sources and all of them required zero experience. That's where I go to hire people with no experience. Those should be your first priority. Go to the Mays Career Fair September 25th and 26th.
https://www.mayscareerfair.com/
Upload your resume to the career center and accept any interviews you get:
https://careercenter.tamu.edu/

Join the professional organizations that match with your desired field. Get involved, get a leadership position, and SHOW employers what you can do.

Lastly, contact your class mates that did get jobs. Ask them what they do, ask them if they're hiring, and ask them who their competitors are. 1,000 applications is way too many. You need to focus your efforts on the people that actually hire your degree. Befriend the career center advisors and follow their advice.
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