Recently Graduated Aggie Struggling

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Your post starts out ragging A&M.

Not a good strategy to post that on an Aggie message board. Just sayin
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Apache said:

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Whenever I made small talk with my tables, I made it a point to let them know that I was a recent grad looking for a career office job.
This is a great point. Everyone you meet is a potential employer or a connection to one.


Absolutely, I realized that a lot of people were willing to lend a helping hand because I asked for the help. And these were people I barely knew, but they took a liking to me for whatever reason and wanted to help.
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It won't pay, but if you want to learn some stuff, come hang at my office for a couple hours and I'll teach you things you don't learn in college related to finance and economics. heinekenashi@yahoo.com. Will give more details through email.
"H-A: In return for the flattery, can you reduce the size of your signature? It's the only part of your posts that don't add value. In its' place, just put "I'm an investing savant, and make no apologies for it", as oldarmy1 would do."
- I Bleed Maroon (distracted easily by signatures)
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Heineken-Ashi said:

It won't pay, but if you want to learn some stuff, come hang at my office for a couple hours and I'll teach you things you don't learn in college related to finance and economics. heinekenashi@yahoo.com. Will give more details through email.
Could be another successful Texags hookup.
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On the plus side for OP he showed impressive determination and stubbornness to finish the degree. Don't give up now. A lot of life is just being stubborn enough to stick with things that are challenging or difficult. And you're doing good on seeing through the bull**** offers that prey on folks who don't know where they're going.
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OP got honor coded? That's not something a true Aggie would do.
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On the off chance the OP is a female. Something missing from users is setting up an OnlyFans account.

My friend is a manager at a Texas Roadhouse and after the pandemic he said it was extremely difficult to get the girls to come back and work because they were making so much money doing OnlyFans.
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How are you sure he wasn't using the just spending the government's covid payroll bailout on recruiting on onlyfans?
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Apache said:

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I literally can't do anything else except go back to school, which even then doesn't promise a job.
You're young, presumably you have your health. You have family that loves you & your grandparents are still alive. Many on this site would trade untold thousands of dollars to have a few of these things.

"Literally" you have hundreds of possible choices. The world is your oyster. You have a degree & a drive to work. It's just a matter of time before something falls into your lap. Might not be your dream job, but every door you walk through is an opportunity to learn, network & explore this roller coaster called life.

Get into a daily routine of working out, eating healthy, applying for jobs & networking like crazy. Go to Aggie happy hours. Volunteer somewhere. You got this.


This advice is golden.
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OP got honor coded? That's not something a true Aggie would do.
Forgive me, I've never come across this....
What does it mean to be honor coded? They got busted lying, cheating or stealing?
What is the punishment for doing so, if any?
I'm assuming it doesn't show up anywhere on records a potential employee would see.

Everyone makes mistakes & hopefully this was a one time incident.
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I reread the the OP a couple times.

I can't tell if it's a legitimate ask for help or a sip troll. Especially with the emoji.

"I feel like A&M has let me down", "I spent a 100 grand on a piece of paper", "I must be well over a 1,000 applications so far".

Something doesn't add up. Or he just feels like jobs out there are beneath him.
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Wolfpac 08 said:

Slim Isle said:

If you're called to the military, do it.

You will never regret it.

Unless you die
The risk is low, even lower if you go into certain certain branches and jobs. Not everyone is an infantryman on the "front lines".
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Wolfpac 08 said:

A&M has always been a big school - it's bigger now, yes - but it's not like it was some 10k student population private school. "Caring about the individual" was never a thing.

I had an advisor that met with me for maybe 20 minutes at the beginning of each semester. He was dismissive and unhelpful and trying to get me out of his office as quickly as possible. He'd look at the classes I took the previous semester, tell what I should take for the upcoming semester, and it wasn't until our last meeting at the beginning of my last semester that he asked "where's your freshman business calculus course?"

I had no idea what he was talking about because I just took the classes he told me to take in order to graduate when I planned to graduate. Yet he still somehow blamed me.

I was able to get into the class, but that meant adding another class to my already full course load (along with working 30-40 hour/week).

These stories aren't new.

I had that experience with Dr Karan Watson in the mid 90s in Electrical Engg dept. It's not even what she said, but how she dismissed me, stood up to leave in just 30 seconds without any guidance ushering me out.

Then of course she got into trouble with some irregularities or something.
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i very much regret my time in the army. im not sure what is typical. I likely would not have made an otherwise good decision had I not gone into the army, but I definitely came out in a bad place. Its not a slam dunk, but it might be worth exploring.

Every day Im reminded of my regret for the army.

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The Kraken said:

Wolfpac 08 said:

Slim Isle said:

If you're called to the military, do it.

You will never regret it.

Unless you die
The risk is low, even lower if you go into certain certain branches and jobs. Not everyone is an infantryman on the "front lines".


This right here. I went from active duty infantry to reserve medical. Wow are things different. It's so much nicer haha
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Charpie said:

Go to a coding boot camp.

Go get certified in AI
then watch AI take your job in 6 months.

People think just "doing AI" is child's play and a quick way to get rich. No one talks about what AI is, what the work entails and what you need to know. It has a lot of math and statistics. It is not just using ChatGPT and doing "prompt engineering" which is overrated as it is.

AI will not take jobs the way people think. It is another tool but you cannot just hand over everything "to AI" and expect a good result. They tried it in 2000 with outsourcing and most of that came back as the work overseas was shoddy.
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infinity ag said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Charpie said:

Go to a coding boot camp.

Go get certified in AI
then watch AI take your job in 6 months.

People think just "doing AI" is child's play and a quick way to get rich. No one talks about what AI is, what the work entails and what you need to know. It has a lot of math and statistics. It is not just using ChatGPT and doing "prompt engineering" which is overrated as it is.

AI will not take jobs the way people think. It is another tool but you cannot just hand over everything "to AI" and expect a good result. They tried it in 2000 with outsourcing and most of that came back as the work overseas was shoddy.
I would reckon the majority of jobs in the US are made up and don't need to exist in the first place. AI will absolutely take low level coding jobs. It already is.
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dyro said:

Aggies,

I feel like A&M has let me down. I originally applied at A&M for computer science before even knowing what ETAM was. It is one of those things you don't really learn about till you're already in it. Never heard of it, even when speaking with advisors before I applied to A&M. Long story short I fell short of the 3.5 GPA requirement. I had a 3.2 my freshman year. So I didn't get my first choice, also didn't get my second nor third. The only options they offered me were electrical engineering and electronic systems engineering technology. I ended up choosing ESET since it sounded the most like computer science. This is when Covid struck and changed everything.

Classes were all online. We had 5x more homework since they expected us to have more free time. I started failing my classes because I was alone, lost, and in a major that I didn't even want. I was doing everything I could to learn, but it is hard for me to just learn from my computer. I was already a year in and I felt robbed. Decided to switch majors after failing some of my classes and getting honor coded. Ended up being in the transition program for a year after that, taking classes that I would need for the new major that I wanted. I originally wanted to go for economics but then decided to go for accounting. None of the advisors I had at A&M ever helped me. They expected me to do everything on my own, which I did. The only good advisor I had was this one really nice older lady in the transition program. The rest of them just told me stuff I already knew, didn't help me with what I needed, and most were just rude and talked down on me. By the time I became eligible to switch majors I was already over their 60 credit hour cutoff. What was the point of taking classes to become eligible for a major change if it was just going to lock me out of my options? One of the only majors left that sounded interesting to me was university studies business, which at that time was still in Mays. I could get a business degree and get two minors with it? Sounded amazing to me.

Fast forward a bit more, most of the classes I had taken for this major were online. The videos were prerecorded and there were almost a thousand students in each class. I had a finance class that was completely online. No lectures. No videos. Just an online textbook we had to buy along with 3 other discussion sites which we also had to buy. I taught myself finance from a book. That should say something. I ended up going for an economics minor and a philosophy minor. Everything was going well until I had Margaret Ray for an economics class. Do not take her if you don't have to.

Fast forward to graduation. I'm one semester away and A&M decides to take my major out of Mays and discontinue the degree. I was the last graduating class in that major. Every semester before the degree had read Mays. Mine read University Studies. Now I am 4 months out of graduation still looking for a job. Most jobs require experience already, which I understand for senior level positions, but not entry level. I apply for every job I come across. I've used AggieNetwork, Indeed, LinkedIn, Glassdoor, and ZipRecruiter. I've even applied to companies directly through their careers page. I must be well over +1000 applications by now. Before you say anything, yes I've reworked my resume multiple times. I've met with different professionals and hiring managers to make my resume as good as it can be. I've gotten more responses since then, but still no bites. I've gotten quite a few different interviews. The only people that seem like they want me are part of pyramid schemes and MLMs. I've only gotten offers for sales positions, most of which are 100% commission based selling ****ty products and services. I decided to take a step back and start lower. I applied to a few different starting positions at HEB. You know the jobs that kids in high school get. I got rejected from all of them. I can't even get a stocking position at HEB. I am not going to work a sales position or anything under $18/hour because I wouldn't even be able to pay rent at that point.

I am just at a loss for words. I feel like A&M screwed me over. I spent $100+ grand on a piece of paper that didn't give me anything in return. I learned a lot in college, but I don't credit it to the university. I've had good professors and bad professors, and don't get me wrong there are a lot of terrible ones. But there are also a few really great ones, and they made it all worth it. Now that I am graduated I am living back home with my grandparents. They're pushing me to find a job and move out but I literally can't do anything else except go back to school, which even then doesn't promise a job. I'm fine with starting at the bottom and working my way up. I love learning, and the best education is experience. I just need somewhere to start. I need someone who is willing to take a chance, but it seems like everyone only wants the best. Having a degree only says you showed up somewhere every day for the past 4 years. What ever happened to companies training new employees? Now everyone expects you to have a masters degree at least with 5+ years of super industry specific experience. I just don't know what to do anymore. If anyone could offer advice I'd greatly appreciate it.
Hell, son, A&M hasn't screwed you over!!! What did you expect, an automatic job when you walked off the stage at graduation??!! You're the rule, not the exception! you're living under an administration who hasn't maintained the best of economies. companies have cut back on jobs.You won't work at anything less than......??!!!! Pick yourself up and take off that feel sorry for myself shirt. Get a JOB!!! Ive hired many people in my career. I'd rather someone pumping gas at the corner gas station at the same time searching for a job than someone sitting by the phone waiting for someone to call offering you a job!


Try the Military, it's a job and you can select your training and get job experience at the same time. One sure thing about it, you won't be living with your folks.

I Am A Critic
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OP must've swallowed his pride and found a job.
Username checks out.
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Just don't marry a stripper to get out of the barracks.

Buy a car without telling your NCO and get 17% interest on a 1998 Pontiac grand-am.

Right place, right time in the right uniform. Military is pretty simple.
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Claude! said:

Ogre09 said:

And he's not the first kid who couldn't hack it in A&M engineering school and had to lower expectations. Happens to dozens of students every semester for decades.
I was a Civil Engineering major for all of a semester until Math 151 told me that I probably should change my plans.
Speak for yourself... I was the very first student done with my 151 final exam.

Jk, that's because I had absolutely no idea how to do any of it.
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RIP flaming Dr Peopers
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Quote:

I've only gotten offers for sales positions, most of which are 100% commission based selling ****ty products and services. I decided to take a step back and start lower.


Are you actually opposed to doing sales?
I mean, its not as glamorous as joining the military, but if you are good at sales and sell new construction homes, you can break 6 figures pretty quick.

Sales kills your soul, but you know..likelihood of physical death is almost nil.
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MyNameIsJeff said:

Claude! said:

Ogre09 said:

And he's not the first kid who couldn't hack it in A&M engineering school and had to lower expectations. Happens to dozens of students every semester for decades.
I was a Civil Engineering major for all of a semester until Math 151 told me that I probably should change my plans.
Speak for yourself... I was the very first student done with my 151 final exam.

Jk, that's because I had absolutely no idea how to do any of it.



That's no joke! Finishing a test quickly can mean you know everything on there. Finishing VERY quickly means you know none of it.
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girlfriend_experience said:

eeinoilandgas said:

So you WANTED to be computer science, but never learned to code? Learn to code, kid. Youtube, or even an actual class on Python and you're only 5 years away from a 6-figure salary.
actually AI will do all that going forward


Actually, it won't.

OP if you are serious about learning to code, it's absolutely a skill worth picking up. You can make some serious cash and potentially even work from home permanently.

Start learning web applications or get some AWS certs and get rolling.
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Sure its a tough situation, but life's a *****. Welcome to the real world.

The first thing you have to fix is your mindset. Setting the blame on A&M shows lack of responsibility.

Hell, don't let your GPA drop, and you might be taking off into the life you imagined right now. Take that as a lesson and don't let your next opportunity go to waste.

GumboGuy
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OP, head to a recruiting station today and change your life forever.

The war is over! You'll meet your new best friends and travel the world together!
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I've been in the tech industry for quarter of a century and I am now sick and tired of it. "Agile" is a new religion like Islam that is killing the world and it is blasphemy to say anything about it.

Luckily I got into good investing 10 years ago after faltering for 15 years before that and I make much more than what my wife and I combined make in our IT jobs.

Should I retire and chill? It is tempting. Agewise it is on the earlier side but I am sick of the bs of this industry now.
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infinity ag said:

I've been in the tech industry for quarter of a century and I am now sick and tired of it. "Agile" is a new religion like Islam that is killing the world and it is blasphemy to say anything about it.

Luckily I got into good investing 10 years ago after faltering for 15 years before that and I make much more than what my wife and I combined make in our IT jobs.

Should I retire and chill? It is tempting. Agewise it is on the earlier side but I am sick of the bs of this industry now.
I think Agile will ultimately lead to my company's demise.
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AgsMyDude said:

girlfriend_experience said:

eeinoilandgas said:

So you WANTED to be computer science, but never learned to code? Learn to code, kid. Youtube, or even an actual class on Python and you're only 5 years away from a 6-figure salary.
actually AI will do all that going forward


Actually, it won't.

OP if you are serious about learning to code, it's absolutely a skill worth picking up. You can make some serious cash and potentially even work from home permanently.

Start learning web applications or get some AWS certs and get rolling.
yes, it will guess you are missing all the tech layoffs. Programmers already use AI to write a lot their codes
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Did OP wind up joining the military?
 
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