Online dating a disaster for men

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the most cool guy said:

Old McDonald said:

skill issue. as a man the onus is on you to become the kind of person a woman wants to date. that means you gotta drop the gaming and gambling addictions, take care of business in your career, and keep yourself and your home hygienic. i've never met a man who met all of those criteria and still had issues dating.

This is the thinking of somebody who is like 70 years old and completely out of touch with the online dating/hookup scene. In most cases, these women don't even know what careers these guys have, whether they play video games, whether they have gambling addictions, or whether their homes are hygienic.

The 10% of men out there who are hooking up with 90% of the women online are just exchanging photos, texting for a few hours or few days, and then meeting for drinks and hooking up. It's based purely on physical appearance, possibly combined with income/wealth if the woman can easily verify it.

There is not even an opportunity in the online world to prove your worth by having a good career, being a good and/or interesting person, having a nice home, and demonstrating a track record of being responsible.


The poster I'm quoting actually watched the vid and has first hand experience with online dating in the present.
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What worries me, even as a right winger, or maybe especially as a right winger, is that I do think there will be an unprecedentedly large group of jaded lonely depressed pissed off men and women with no sense of purpose a decade or two from now, and that many of the men might start "acting out" more. And if the young gen male population truly is trending solidly to the right, many might embrace or carry out those causes in a pretty radical manner.

Hope I'm wrong and that an insane amount of lonely and depressed middle aged virgin men just all relax and don't get too crazy.

But a right wing dude with everything to live for is much less likely to do anything crazy than a right wing dude with nothing to live for.
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What's the likelihood that the woman who isn't living with someone or married by the age of 30 owns cats?
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I also agree with this.

Some of the questions girls would ask me I thought were ridiculous but it was because of guys they had dated in the past.

Are you married/have kids/been married?
One story of a guy saying he was polyamorous.
Another of a guy showing up with his wedding ring.
Another of a guy who wouldn't talk.
Another of a guy who offered up a threesome.
Another of a guy showing up wearing basketball shorts.


And on and on. I'm in a relationship now with a girl I met on a dating app and couldn't believe how well it's gone this time.

A lot of the girls are doozies too but the problem is women sift through a lot of men but men swipe like crazy and sift after. I understand why but if you're serious, it's not the way to go.
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the most cool guy said:

Old McDonald said:

skill issue. as a man the onus is on you to become the kind of person a woman wants to date. that means you gotta drop the gaming and gambling addictions, take care of business in your career, and keep yourself and your home hygienic. i've never met a man who met all of those criteria and still had issues dating.

This is the thinking of somebody who is like 70 years old and completely out of touch with the online dating/hookup scene. In most cases, these women don't even know what careers these guys have, whether they play video games, whether they have gambling addictions, or whether their homes are hygienic.

The 10% of men out there who are hooking up with 90% of the women online are just exchanging photos, texting for a few hours or few days, and then meeting for drinks and hooking up. It's based purely on physical appearance, possibly combined with income/wealth if the woman can easily verify it.

There is not even an opportunity in the online world to prove your worth by having a good career, being a good and/or interesting person, having a nice home, and demonstrating a track record of being responsible.

100% this. It's sad, but this is the world of a single guy these days.

Im 5'8" and average appearance, so basically get swiped left 99.9999% of the time in the course of 1/8 of. second. Writing a profile is a gigantic waste of time, as no-one will read it anyway based on the important metrics they see first. Should I put my net worth at the top somehow? If you don't fit the first two criteria, and your income is a mystery, you're never gonna get attention, and those aren't the women you want anything to do with.

****ty time to be a single guy. Anyone who disputes that is married or gay, or full of *****

As an aside, the few who actually give us regular below average height and appearance guys the time of day pretty much just want a free drink or dinner.
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FarmersOnly.com….if you're into sheep
Kaiser von Wilhelm
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TyHolden said:

FarmersOnly.com….if you're into sheep

I have two sheep...
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

TyHolden said:

FarmersOnly.com….if you're into sheep

I have two sheep...

That's baaaaaaaad…
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agent-maroon said:

Yeah, I thought women were crazy before I tried online dating (25+ years ago). Then I discovered what crazy really was. I even stopped dating for a while until I could convince myself that there was someone out there sane enough to have a relationship with. Met my wife at work and have no regrets about the traditional dating approach 22 years later.


You are correct. There are literally insane women out there. One was so bad I had a cop friend push me to make a report on her.
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TAMUallen said:

Those are some terrible stats. I dont know how ugly guys stay alive
I'll never know I guess.
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

the most cool guy said:

Old McDonald said:

skill issue. as a man the onus is on you to become the kind of person a woman wants to date. that means you gotta drop the gaming and gambling addictions, take care of business in your career, and keep yourself and your home hygienic. i've never met a man who met all of those criteria and still had issues dating.

This is the thinking of somebody who is like 70 years old and completely out of touch with the online dating/hookup scene. In most cases, these women don't even know what careers these guys have, whether they play video games, whether they have gambling addictions, or whether their homes are hygienic.

The 10% of men out there who are hooking up with 90% of the women online are just exchanging photos, texting for a few hours or few days, and then meeting for drinks and hooking up. It's based purely on physical appearance, possibly combined with income/wealth if the woman can easily verify it.

There is not even an opportunity in the online world to prove your worth by having a good career, being a good and/or interesting person, having a nice home, and demonstrating a track record of being responsible.

100% this. It's sad, but this is the world of a single guy these days.

Im 5'8" and average appearance, so basically get swiped left 99.9999% of the time in the course of 1/8 of. second. Writing a profile is a gigantic waste of time, as no-one will read it anyway based on the important metrics they see first. Should I put my net worth at the top somehow? If you don't fit the first two criteria, and your income is a mystery, you're never gonna get attention, and those aren't the women you want anything to do with.

****ty time to be a single guy. Anyone who disputes that is married or gay, or full of *****

As an aside, the few who actually give us regular below average height and appearance guys the time of day pretty much just want a free drink or dinner.
Try volunteering at something you enjoy doing on weekends or week nights. This gives you ability to meet people and also gives you something to derive conversations from in your life. Skip the bars and run clubs.

Also - maybe pay for one of the apps and swipe as much as possible and don't do tinder.




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Southeast Asia is your friend
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Got divorced. Did the online apps. Had fun but there are some crazy and horny women out there. Found a good one and settled down. 8 years and going strong.
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texagbeliever said:

Of course online dating is a disaster for men. Here is a secret it is bad for women to. Can it work, yes but very rarely.


The difference here is that this is completely the women's doing. It's horrible for men because there aren't any chances that women will pay attention to them online, and it pretty much destroys their confidence. OTOH, it strokes the ego of women, making them way too selective since they believe that they're all 10s because of how much attention they suddenly get. And when it backfires, they don't understand why. But the structure of online dating is set up for it, so it's not entirely they're fault since it's rigged against both sexes. It's a superficial system, so they've been almost trained to be super selective. If they get 100 likes in an hour, why the hell would they stop to read something an average guy wrote when they have 10 to pick from who meet their physical and financial criteria. They're conditioned to believe that because they get a million likes that they're all 10s all of a sudden. So there's no matching of women and men within their "levels." A male "8" might get a response from a female 3-5, if he's lucky.

If a guy hits the height and looks requirements (+/- career), then we can start to talk about personality. It's funny how all the women claim they just want a guy with a sense of humor and thats all that matters. Yeah, a load of bull**** there. If they hit everything else, then we can talk about personality, but it's not even close to the top 5 thing of what women look for in this superficial world.
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Burrus86 said:

So, pick up lines at bars have become a lost art? These youngsters need to work on their game.


That's what I was wondering. Guys and gals aren't still hooking up via Rainey St or Greenville Ave? Used to be so simple. And fun.
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"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective, like WAY more selective.
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ntxVol said:

You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective like WAY more selective.
I don't get on that gay **** . Problem solved.
Kaiser von Wilhelm
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ntxVol said:

You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective like WAY more selective.

Well I already swipe left on a majority of women who label themselves as liberals, which is like 75% of what's on there. So being selective isn't the answer to what you're referring to. And this is in freaking boise, idaho. One of the reddest states in the union, so maybe thats the problem. It's infested by liberal women.
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Rapier108 said:






LoL, nailed it
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Texags general board was tinder before tinder. IYKYK.
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BigRobSA said:

ntxVol said:

You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective like WAY more selective.
I don't get on that gay **** . Problem solved.
I have no idea what he was even talking about. Swiping? ELO score? Algorithms? No idea...
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cgh1999 said:

Texags general board was tinder before tinder. IYKYK.

Haha or Hobbes. Is that even still a thing...?
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Rapier108 said:


so women will **** guys in the Chad zone and try to marry and take half of the stuff from the guys that make the Chadwick zone when they meet the next Chad. Makes sense.
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

texagbeliever said:

Of course online dating is a disaster for men. Here is a secret it is bad for women to. Can it work, yes but very rarely.


The difference here is that this is completely the women's doing. It's horrible for men because there aren't any chances that women will pay attention to them online, and it pretty much destroys their confidence. OTOH, it strokes the ego of women, making them way too selective since they believe that they're all 10s because of how much attention they suddenly get. And when it backfires, they don't understand why. But the structure of online dating is set up for it, so it's not entirely they're fault since it's rigged against both sexes. It's a superficial system, so they've been almost trained to be super selective. If they get 100 likes in an hour, why the hell would they stop to read something an average guy wrote when they have 10 to pick from who meet their physical and financial criteria. They're conditioned to believe that because they get a million likes that they're all 10s all of a sudden. So there's no matching of women and men within their "levels." A male "8" might get a response from a female 3-5, if he's lucky.

If a guy hits the height and looks requirements (+/- career), then we can start to talk about personality. It's funny how all the women claim they just want a guy with a sense of humor and thats all that matters. Yeah, a load of bull**** there. If they hit everything else, then we can talk about personality, but it's not even close to the top 5 thing of what women look for in this superficial world.

Well this is true if you are looking for a materialistic girl or one who you can use to selfishly gratify your sexual desires with. But the irony being you (not specific you) are looking to date for selfish reasons and are then mad that you are rejected because of their selfish reasons.

If you as a man do the following you will not be single long:
1. Have a good family and care for them. (If you have a dysfunctional family being the only exception).
2. Volunteer for a cause you care about. Show through actions you willingly do things for others.
3. Have friends who would actually have the company of females you would date.
4. Elevate others around you.
5. Learn how to ask questions to genuinely get to know someone.
6. Go to church. Know that you are in need of grace and freely recieve God's peace, grace and joy so you can go out and give that to others (in this case a girlfriend -> wife)
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Hoyt Ag said:

Southeast Asia is your friend

I'm thinking more Ukraine….without the Russian mobsters.
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cgh1999 said:

Texags general board was tinder before tinder. IYKYK.

F16 is turning into the damned General Board!
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agent-maroon said:

BigRobSA said:

ntxVol said:

You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective like WAY more selective.
I don't get on that gay **** . Problem solved.
I have no idea what he was even talking about. Swiping? ELO score? Algorithms? No idea...
You obviously haven't used any of the current dating apps.
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ntxVol said:

agent-maroon said:

BigRobSA said:

ntxVol said:

You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective like WAY more selective.
I don't get on that gay **** . Problem solved.
I have no idea what he was even talking about. Swiping? ELO score? Algorithms? No idea...
You obviously haven't used any of the current dating apps.
I've never used ANY "dating" app.

I understood what you were saying because I'm a nerd.

Dating apps, delivery/laziness apps, etc. all are stupid and counterproductive.
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There's actually good stuff going on because of this too.

Yes, women are getting crazy selective but awkward dudes who wouldnt normally be able to get dates now can. More importantly, it's harder to get dates but that does encourage guys to stay fit in there 30s, 40s, 50s, who might have been rocking dad bods and getting widow maker heart attacks. Will be interesting to compare stats 10 or 20 years from now
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texagbeliever said:

6. Go to church. Know that you are in need of grace and freely recieve God's peace, grace and joy so you can go out and give that to others (in this case a girlfriend -> wife)

Just don't bother looking for a girlfriend or wife at church. Church women are some of the worst because they've been raised to believe God has "only the best" planned for them, so a man better be a 10 and either rich, or high income earning potential. Being a good Christian man is meaningless to most church women.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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If you are a 7 or higher, fit, have a good job and are at least 5' 10" it's like shooting fish in a barrel. And if you're not a right wing wacko. Or at least can hide it.

So that last bit rules out most of F16. (Ha.)

Also if you're going on a trip and can spoof your phone you can set your location for there and do the online apps a day or so ahead of time to warm 'em up. I went to Cayman when single and saved this one. Got a 3 for 1 on this one. I didn't end up going over there because I had been drinking and I met this girl at the hotel barfrom Orlando that night that I actually ended up dating for a year or so. I've always kinda wondered what would have happened if I went over there. Probably nothing. But one can dream.



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BigRobSA said:

ntxVol said:

agent-maroon said:

BigRobSA said:

ntxVol said:

You guys are doing it all wrong, swiping tight too much is bad, it screws up the algorithms and it tanks your ELO score. Once that happens... forget about it, you're never going to get seen.

Try being more selective like WAY more selective.
I don't get on that gay **** . Problem solved.
I have no idea what he was even talking about. Swiping? ELO score? Algorithms? No idea...
You obviously haven't used any of the current dating apps.
I've never used ANY "dating" app.

I understood what you were saying because I'm a nerd.

Dating apps, delivery/laziness apps, etc. all are stupid and counterproductive.


Nah, it is just how things are done now. You'd have said texting or even posting on forums was lazy compared to talking before this became normal in that mindset
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where do these 2 fit on the blue unicorn matrix?

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Rapier108 said:

texagbeliever said:

6. Go to church. Know that you are in need of grace and freely recieve God's peace, grace and joy so you can go out and give that to others (in this case a girlfriend -> wife)

Just don't bother looking for a girlfriend or wife at church. Church women are some of the worst because they've been raised to believe God has "only the best" planned for them, so a man better be a 10 and either rich, or high income earning potential. Being a good Christian man is meaningless to most church women.


Way off base, you have *****s who then choose to be saven to find their "good Godly man". Yes, it is possible they truly repent and are saved but it's more likely theyre burnt out and looking for their meal ticket at church
 
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