That's a depressing watch. Our culture is dying.

TexasAggiesWin said:

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What's the likelihood that the woman who isn't living with someone or married by the age of 30 owns cats?

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High, like 98% I bet

Ciboag96 said:

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It all started with Line Dancing. Downhill from there

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When I first started seeing that at places like Gramm's and The Hall, I thought to myself, "That's dumb. That's dancing for people who are too afraid to ask a partner to dance."

Back in our day, we joked that Gramm's was a meat market. Thing is, if you frequent the butcher shop often enough you eventually figure out what things you like and what things to avoid. It doesn't have to be anything dirty, but the key is you have to interact with other people to figure out if your compatible. Nowadays we do that through the alleged anonymity of the internet. It is destined to fail.

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Yeah. I was kinda spooked. When something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Plus i was hitting it off with this girl in the bar. Bird in hand is worth three in the bush!

But yeah I've saved this screenshot all these years. I'm that shallow.

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Are you and Hunter related?

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It's also noticeable that most men and women now have different political views. Statistically more women are left leaning while men more often lean right (even people analyzing social media algorithms see that the apps by default do this for these demographics). I know a lot of women that don't want to date a man who voted for Trump. It's a non-starter for them.

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Gram is the metric version of pound without considering the gravity of the situation.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Only pick up line I ever needed was "would you like to dance?"

How I met my wife.

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Same. It's not that difficult, folks. (And it wasn't about the "dancing", which I detest. It's just a sort of icebreaker.)

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GeorgiAg said:

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Yeah. I was kinda spooked. When something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Plus i was hitting it off with this girl in the bar. Bird in hand is worth three in the bush!

But yeah I've saved this screenshot all these years. I'm that shallow.

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Are you and Hunter related?

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Maybe I am Hunter

Proposition Joe said:

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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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the most cool guy said:

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Old McDonald said:

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skill issue. as a man the onus is on you to become the kind of person a woman wants to date. that means you gotta drop the gaming and gambling addictions, take care of business in your career, and keep yourself and your home hygienic. i've never met a man who met all of those criteria and still had issues dating.

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This is the thinking of somebody who is like 70 years old and completely out of touch with the online dating/hookup scene. In most cases, these women don't even know what careers these guys have, whether they play video games, whether they have gambling addictions, or whether their homes are hygienic.

The 10% of men out there who are hooking up with 90% of the women online are just exchanging photos, texting for a few hours or few days, and then meeting for drinks and hooking up. It's based purely on physical appearance, possibly combined with income/wealth if the woman can easily verify it.

There is not even an opportunity in the online world to prove your worth by having a good career, being a good and/or interesting person, having a nice home, and demonstrating a track record of being responsible.

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100% this. It's sad, but this is the world of a single guy these days.

Im 5'8" and average appearance, so basically get swiped left 99.9999% of the time in the course of 1/8 of. second. Writing a profile is a gigantic waste of time, as no-one will read it anyway based on the important metrics they see first. Should I put my net worth at the top somehow? If you don't fit the first two criteria, and your income is a mystery, you're never gonna get attention, and those aren't the women you want anything to do with.

****ty time to be a single guy. Anyone who disputes that is married or gay, or full of *****

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Because your strategy is all wrong. If based on height and first appearance you aren't that appealing (comparatively), then relying on an app that revolves around those things is just a bad move. Dating apps (at the very least ones that revolve around the criteria you mentioned), aren't your wheelhouse.

It's akin to being a poor guy who has to buy cheap drinks hanging out at a high end bar. That's not going to be a good strategy.

Volunteering, church, rec sports, run clubs, dog parks, etc... are all likely better suited for someone like you. If you aren't that appealing in a quickly viewed photograph, then don't try and meet girls on an app that uses quickly viewed photographs.

All strategies differ, but if meeting a girl is a high priority in your life, depending on the neighborhood you live in (which you can alter) -> get a dog, jog in an active area every day (with or without your dog), take the dog to the dog park, afterward have a couple of close places where you are a regular for food or a drink.

If you haven't got multiple numbers within a month, then it's your personality that needs work.

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Super post.

this is the way. for most guys, online dating is a bust.

I belong to two running groups in Tarrant County that start and end at a bar. I run with them because i like to challenge my pace AND have a cold beer afterwards.

These groups are crawling with single women of all ages. I learned early to wear my wedding ring all the time - even though I'm 62 - cause any woman 40+ years old will come on to me. And I think I'm pretty average looking.

valvemonkey91 said:

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Women are absolutely screwed going forward. Wait til Elon or some other company makes a robot designed for sex.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Only pick up line I ever needed was "would you like to dance?"

How I met my wife.

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A two step process?

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Pretty sure he just waltzed right in

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Another tactic that I heard works well is to tell a pretty woman at the bar that she's sitting in your chair. But the kicker is, it isn't really your chair! It's just a way to introduce yourself!

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I like to find them crying at the jukebox, and then I go up and tell them their tears got mixed up with mine, so why don't we just fall to pieces together.


Now about this dating app lingo....I've been married since 2000, and she and I started dating in 1998. So not only no apps, but I don't think in 1998 there were even dating sites yet like eHarmony and Match, so needless to say, I have no clue what you all are talking about.

What is this swiping? You swipe to dismiss them I assume? What if you want to like them and pursue it? You star them?

Proposition Joe with the PERFECT analysis and advice.

I met my girlfriend on Catholic Match dot com. We will marry at some point. And I way out kicked my coverage with her.
Granted I'm 50 and she's in her 40's AND Catholic Match isn't a "hook up" site but the notion that online dating can't work is false. The requirement is that it takes two mature adults. That's the underlying issue here.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Only pick up line I ever needed was "would you like to dance?"

How I met my wife.

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A two step process?

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Pretty sure he just waltzed right in

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Another tactic that I heard works well is to tell a pretty woman at the bar that she's sitting in your chair. But the kicker is, it isn't really your chair! It's just a way to introduce yourself!

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I like to find them crying at the jukebox, and then I go up and tell them their tears got mixed up with mine, so why don't we just fall to pieces together.


Now about this dating app lingo....I've been married since 2000, and she and I started dating in 1998. So not only no apps, but I don't think in 1998 there were even dating sites yet like eHarmony and Match, so needless to say, I have no clue what you all are talking about.

What is this swiping? You swipe to dismiss them I assume? What if you want to like them and pursue it? You star them?

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Back in the day, there was Video Dating. One of them was called Great Expectations. I never did it, but a high school friend did. If I remember right, you went in and made a video of yourself and filled out a questionnaire. They would evaluate your questionnaire and give you some tapes of other people to watch. High school friend ended up marrying a girl he met there. I think their marriage lasted about five years before their debt problems resulted in bankruptcy and then divorce.

Today's swipe is yesterday's fast-forward button.

BigRobSA said:

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Why the hell would anyone date online?

Geez, this country is friggin' lazy.


Just go out and find a real girl to throw game at. Or a guy, if you're a LOLgay ().

The internet, and smartphones, have proven to be a net negative to humanity. So many lazyasses. Even to get some strange.

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You have some decent takes, but this is pretty poor to assume it's just about laziness or to simply get some strange.

You have to know what you are doing and be careful about it, but online can provide a great filter. Again, if used correctly. I found a girl who wasn't looking for hookups and only filtering out for real relationships, same as me. She's also a girl that you can't approach in real life for this reason. She doesn't go out to bars, clubs, or places where you typically meet a girl to "throw game" at. She would deny any "game" to begin with. When she does go out, it's to listen to live music, or have dinner with family. She always laughs that she puts on a great resting b**** face just for this reason. To avoid being hit on.

It isn't just about laziness. I met my ex the "right way". Well, she's now an ex. I met what is likely the real deal online just over a year ago that I would have likely otherwise never met and have zero issues with it.

In fact, I'd argue that online dating is no more the disaster than the average way the average guy tries to go about meeting a girl in person. I'd say it's overall better if you do it the right way.

For Kaiser, do a cooking class.

There's a cooking school in downtown boise I just looked up. Probably a good way for a weeknight. I've done those and did meet cool people and allows you to have conversations with people. Don't dress like an idiot.

Cooking will get you girls and this is an opportunity to meet girls and guys to maybe make as friends.