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I think Hank's only option at this point is to create some bogus serial killer in order to get more resources from the DEA.

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Right before Jesse goes to the bathroom he slams his hand down on the table. It cuts to him walking to the bathroom and it looks like he's putting something in his pocket. If you look at the table to phone is gone. JESSE TOOK THE HELLO KITTY PHONE TO THE BATHROOM
I'm thinking he called Walt to warn him.

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That's interesting. If this ends up being the case, that was a damn fine acting job by Jesse at the plaza.

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i hear Dexter is looking to get out of Miami soon.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
Episode titles always mean something. When I saw Rabid Dog as the title, I assumed that the series would entail putting down a rabid dog (Jesse).

However, what I now think Rabid Dog meant is that a rabid dog infected many others. Jesse went rabid (you could argue he was infected by Walt). This turned him into a crazy man who wanted Walt to die. Jesse then infected Skyler by pouring gas in her house. Shen in turn went "rabid" and wanted Jesse to die (certainly a new development for her). Hank, always the reasonable one, was also infected and basically admits that Jesse is a pawn and if he has to die so be it. Marie is still motivated by nothing in life but bringing Walt down but you could argue she was already infected. But no episode to me showed more different characters "breaking bad" than this one. Jesse, Skyler, Hank - - they all become exponentially more ruthless. Unlike the 737 that killed hundreds of strangers, Walt is now changing (you could even say chemically changing) his friends and loved ones.

-Jessie is off the deep end
-Jessie is going to killer Jr
-Skylar is going to kill Jesse
- the show, is about Skylar breaking bad now
-then Walt, because Skylar is out of control, will kill skylar. Because she has to be stopped, and Walt just wants to protect his way of life and no longer has a family.

Walt wins

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Never gonna happen.

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What would hit him harder than getting to his cash, the reason he sought Jesse out in the first place?

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Not arguing that at all. Like the poster above stated, throw in the whole empire and that is exactly what Jessie wants to take down.

But the lottery ticket would mean absolutely nothing to anyone not named "Walt". Zero. Hell there were people on this very board that didn't even understand the significance of the lottery ticket after seeing the episode. Who in their right mind (on the show) would guess that is Walt's secret way of hiding coordinates to his cash stash upon just seeing it casually stuck to the refrigerator.

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I definitely agree that no one else on the show has any idea what the lottery ticket is truly for. But that doesn't mean someone wouldn't just straight up steal it. Especially an angry Jesse.

That being said I think the ticket is still there.

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If you rewatch the Jesse/gas scene, hank comes in before Jesse even goes into another room. There is no way he could have gotten the lottery ticket.

You people crack me up.

This is JessIe:



This is Jesse:


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We were spelling his name wrong the whole time! oh lawd!

What mean "we", whitey?

Anyone notice the shout out to Deadwood? There was a boxset of Deadwood on the bookshelf.

Are we supposed to assume that Jesse told Hank and Gomez everything? I know on balcony Hank hit a couple bullet points to reveal that things were said about Drew Sharp and Vamanos Pest


Not real happy with how the Jesse character has shifted around so many times. For awhile he wanted his money so bad and was pleading with Walt pre-empire speech that $2M or whatever was enough to live on for rest of life. Now Jesse has had multiple chances to take the money and run and get away clean and free.


Seems too obvious that Todd's crew will want Walt to cook some as part of their payment

Jesse is immature and a junkie. Not someone prone to rationality. That said, I'll admit that I'm struggling a little with his flipping in the way he's done it because I do think he's confessed to everything - including child murder, with no sort of immunity. That's nucking futs. I realize he's not thinking clearly because of rage over Brock and he's back on meth, but he's looking at taking a needle in the arm or life with no parole even if he brings Walt down. Obviously, his singular focus is that Walt "can't keep getting away with it", but to confess to everything upfront seems overboard.

That said, junkie criminals ill-advisedly confess to their crimes all the time in real life when under immense pressure, so I guess I'll buy it.

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That said, I'll admit that I'm struggling a little with his flipping in the way he's done it because I do think he's confessed to everything - including child murder, with no sort of immunity. That's nucking futs. I realize he's not thinking clearly because of rage over Brock and he's back on meth, but he's looking at taking a needle in the arm or life with no parole even if he brings Walt down.

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This. Anyone who has "lived" in the criminal realm for an extended period of time knows that talking to cops hurts you more than it helps.

I guess I'll have to chalk it up to his soft spot for kids. He was going to get himself killed when he took on Gus' two drug dealers. He's basically back to that point mentally again. The rage meter goes off the charts, he hits the meth, and concern about his own life goes on the backburner.

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What I'm hoping: Jesse is going after Walt's pride and will attempt to cook near perfect meth or at least better than Walts so he can rub it in his face. This attracts Todds gang and they kidnap him to cook. The future scene of Walt buying the shotgun? is Walt on a Jesse rescue mission.

What will probably happen: Jesse exposes Walt's double life which ostracizes him from the community and forces him to live the life of a vagabond. While gone Todd's gang effs stuff up(possibly killing family members) and the flashforward Walt is back to end things once and for all.

The lottery ticket is just the kind of thing Hank would walk past, do a double take, and think, "Now what would a guy with all that cash be doing buying a lottery ticket..???"


...just a thought.

Walt would have noticed if the lottery ticket was missing. It's probably one of the first things he checked.

I also didn't like how Jesse instantly went from keeping his mouth shut to allegedly confessing everything in such a short time period. I get him wanting to bring Walt down but that's way too much.

What about this:

We already know Todd's uncle and crew are headed back to abq. We also know Lydia wants Walt back in the game. We know she will order hits to bring up the quality of the product. So what if she tells Walt that he has to cook or she offs his family? He calls her bluff, she goes through with it, Todd maybe pulls the trigger because we know he will kill a kid. Walt calls the vacuum guy and books it to NH, maybe faking his death along the way. Lydia takes over abq. Since Walt is gone Jesse is now the best available cook. He agrees to cook because he doesnt want his family hurt. Lydia then offs Hank, Marie, and Gomez because theyre the only ones left that know about Jesse. Later he somehow gets word to Walt that he needs help. Since Jesse is all Walt has left now, Walt comes back to rescue him.

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The lottery ticket is just the kind of thing Hank would walk past, do a double take, and think, "Now what would a guy with all that cash be doing buying a lottery ticket..???"


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Agree completely. The lottery ticket seems so out of place.

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What I'm hoping: Jesse is going after Walt's pride and will attempt to cook near perfect meth or at least better than Walts so he can rub it in his face. This attracts Todds gang and they kidnap him to cook. The future scene of Walt buying the shotgun? is Walt on a Jesse rescue mission.

What will probably happen: Jesse exposes Walt's double life which ostracizes him from the community and forces him to live the life of a vagabond. While gone Todd's gang effs stuff up(possibly killing family members) and the flashforward Walt is back to end things once and for all.

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My thoughts exactly.

Dan - that's not a bad hypo, and your direction may be right but I see a few weaknesses.

"We already know Todd's uncle and crew are headed back to abq." - No, we know theyre heading to NM but not ABQ. In fact, given the publicity of Gus and the superlab they may be better off avoiding ABQ.

"We also know Lydia wants Walt back in the game. We know she will order hits to bring up the quality of the product. So what if she tells Walt that he has to cook or she offs his family? He calls her bluff, she goes through with it," - I'm with you on this line of though.

"Todd maybe pulls the trigger because we know he will kill a kid." - He's clearly capable, but I think in a showdown between Lydia and Walt Todd would take Walts side. His description of the train heist shows he admires Walt.

"Walt calls the vacuum guy and books it to NH, maybe faking his death along the way." - I think there's something to this. I think he also fakes his death, based on Carol's reaction when she sees him (like she saw a ghost). And it's hard to see Walt taking Jr along for an identity relocation unless things are so bad there's just no other option. But his hubris combined with skill and luck in the past makes it very hard to see him ever reaching a point where he's willing to admit to himself he has no choice but to tell Jr what's going on. o I don't see the relocation happening unless Jr's out of the picture somehow (I still think a drug OD would be most poetic)

"Lydia takes over abq. Since Walt is gone Jesse is now the best available cook. He agrees to cook because he doesnt want his family hurt." Perhaps his brother, but I don't think Jesse gives 2 sh&ts about his parents (I always liked the way hescrwed them by buying the house)

"Lydia then offs Hank, Marie, and Gomez because theyre the only ones left that know about Jesse." Too much heat killing 2 dea agents. She's haul ass with her money before doing that.

"Later he somehow gets word to Walt that he needs help. Since Jesse is all Walt has left now, Walt comes back to rescue him. " Perhaps, but not under those conditions. Maybe she took Jesse hostage or maybe she killed Jesse.

I think Todd definitely takes Lydia's side, especially if that's the side his uncle is on. I think he has a thing for Lydia as well.

And I think they are headed for abq. There's a power vacuum there.

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Any chance the relocation is to Europe? The Chechs dig his product so perhaps after Skylar and Jr are dead (suicide and OD, respectively) he goes there to make his empire.

NH may be a domestic cover for when he comes back to destroy what remains of his trail.

Well if you look at the next to last episode's title I think it gives a clue to the location.

I'm of the opinion that Jesse doesn't want to get away with anything. He wants redemption for himself, and that's by bringing Walt down.

Someone else caught Jesse grabbing the phone.

http://imgur.com/a/2e0Se

For reference, this was right after Hank told Jesse that Walt clearly cares about him.

I think the poster that said Jesse might've called Walt could be onto something.

Then again, it could be in there just to throw us off and it's actually meaningless.

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i'm re-watching right now. He doesnt slap his hand on the table anywhere close to where the phone is on the table. However, he does make the adjustment of the shirt/pants/slide something in the pocket. But as obvious as they were with him getting ganked the week prior, there's no way they would be that tricky on this IMO.

It also doesn't fit that he would admit to everything and incriminate himself then go spoil it to Walt. With what he admitted he's already in serious trouble. Also, that whole(weak IMO) scene with the "muscle" that Jesse freaks out on when meeting Walt in a public place would just be for nothing.

1. We don't know what exactly he said on tape.
2. The scene with Walt in the plaza would absolutely be necessary because he can't let Hank & Gomey know that he's not going to help them after all.

I'm starting to agree with this line of thinking. Maybe Jesse realized that Hank is willing to use him as a pawn to get to Walt and doesn't care if Jesse got hurt or killed.

Jesse gonna confess to being Heisenberg. That will hurt Walt. There goes his legacy. Grey matter all over again.

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That would be cold.

Even though I hate Walt and want him to die, this just made my stomach drop, I hope it happens.