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Maybe Gretchen Schwartz's maiden name is Black. Walter White (WW)+Gretchen Black (GB)=Gray Matter. The writing appeared to be somewhat faded, and that may be why it was carelessly left out. Walter would not be dumb enough to leave anything from Gale around. Right?

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That's a little tenuous. Gale had a line in his notebook dedicating his work to W.W. Hank jokingly accused Walt of it, but Walt pointed out that it could have been Whitman because of a Whitman poem in the notebook. Walt then has a Whitman book in his possesion with a dedication in it similar to Gale's notebook and signed by G.B. Sometimes the easiest solution is right.
And yes, when his ego gets in the way, Walt can be dumb. Remember at a dinner last season when Hank thought that Gale was Heisenberg. Walt convinced him that based on what he saw in the notebook Heisenberg was still out there. That was really dumb. He could have kept his mouth shut and let Hank think his search was over. This is just as dumb as wearing the expensive watch Jesse gave him, or buying expensive cars on a whim.

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If Hank decides to do a full DEA investigation of Walt, would he be taken off the case because of family relation?

Well, Hanks going to be keeping a close eye on him no matter what now. Who knows, maybe that's what drives Walt to flee to Delaware(or wherever it was his ID said it was from), if in fact he did flee (called saul's guy).

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Hank thought that Gale was Heisenberg. Walt convinced him that based on what he saw in the notebook Heisenberg was still out there. That was really dumb. He could have kept his mouth shut and let Hank think his search was over.

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Walt has had plenty of opportunities to just keep his mouth shut, as Mike explained. Walt wants that recognition though. "Say my name!"

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The flashback was telling us Hank recognized the note immediately to be Gale's...

He was obsessed with that notebook while he was rehabbing.

I think the big question is if Hank confronts Walt like he did Jesse. Hank isn't going to be afraid of losing his job over this. He's already tired of the politics and paperwork.

He's going to close the case.

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It bothers me that Walt goes around dressing exactly like Heisenburg.

This revelation would have came to Hank sooner if he ran into Walt at the supermarket on any given day.

Where did the whole Heisenburg name come from again?

As far as I can remember the people that new him as that are all dead (except jesse). And now that he told those arizona guys who he was ("you're damn right I am") we have people that can finger him to a piss load of crimes. IDK, I'm probably reading too much into the show. I'll hang up and listen now. Go about your business.

Just an FYI - if you have the Songza app on your phone, there is a Breaking Bad playlist that supposedly has all of the tunes from the show.

the real heisenberg was a scientist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg

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As far as I can remember the people that new him as that are all dead (except jesse). And now that he told those arizona guys who he was ("you're damn right I am") we have people that can finger him to a piss load of crimes.

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That's the whole point. As Saul said in Season 2/3, "you are really good at making product, but you are terrible at selling it." Walt's ego just won't let him see it.

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I don't think he will. I think he will give Walt an out (or Walt will weasel his way into a deal.) Walt will give up the "other crew." This allows Hank to not only save face regarding Walt, but also to look like a hero for busting up the huge meth ring. I think the other crew goes after Hank and misses, but gets another family member in the cross fire (I'm thinking Holly.) Walt will be pushed over the edge and go after the others with the M60. Still not sure if Walt discontinued his Czech operation.

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Hank thought that Gale was Heisenberg. Walt convinced him that based on what he saw in the notebook Heisenberg was still out there. That was really dumb. He could have kept his mouth shut and let Hank think his search was over.

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Walt has had plenty of opportunities to just keep his mouth shut, as Mike explained. Walt wants that recognition though. "Say my name!"

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This is a very important point about Walt's character that seems (at least on here) to be overlooked by some:


Walt is NOT, and never was, a BADASS. He often has gotten lucky when attempting to do badass things, but even then, he only acts to make things worse. He is a prisoner to his own hubris, and no matter how often he puts on the Heisenberg outfit, he will always be a bumbling fool of a businessman, and an even worse criminal.

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I think the first time he used it was when Tuco asked for Walt's name and Walt chose to conceal his identity.

That bumbling fool of a businessman just made a cool 20 million or so in 3 or 4 months.

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And Walt was a bit drunky poo at the time. Sober he never would've done that back then.

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That bumbling fool of a businessman just made a cool 20 million or so in 3 or 4 months.

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Did anyone else notice that at some point in the episode (can't remember the exact time, but the Friday Night LIghts guy was in the scene with Walt), the camera seemed to focus on a poster on the wall? The poster wasn't on the screen very long, but it seemed weird that they showed it for as long as they did because noone else was in the screen when it was shown.

It was at the end of a scene. I went back to see if I could make out what was on the poster, and it was a poster of different species of flies. After seeing the poster, I don't think it had much to do with anything.

The only possible thing I could take away from it (it probably doesn't mean anything) was that one of the species was a "screw fly" or something like that. There have been alot of theories about how the Friday Night Lights guy may be undercover from a different meth team, so thought this may have foreshadowed him screwing Walter over.

I don't know, Mavs...I think Todd is legit. Psycho, but legit. Walt said he was out, but that doesn't mean his Jesse Jr. is.

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That bumbling fool of a businessman just made a cool 20 million or so in 3 or 4 months.

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And is likely going to die for it. Want to make the same trade?

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Well, now that Hank knows Walt is Heisenberg, it's not simply a given that he goes after him.

First and foremost, the book from Gale is circumstantial and "proves" nothing, and with all the witnesses dead, Hank has nothing at the moment to implicate Walt.

More importantly, however, Hank knows very well that Walt getting busted could mean the end of his career, for the same reason his predecessor lost his job after Fring's exposure. And Hank's situation is a lot worse with respect to his relationship with Walt. Walt's drug money paid for his physical rehab, for crying out loud.

So Hank has a huge, huge dilemma. Will he live with the torture of knowing who Walt is, yet feel unable to do anything about it? Or he will he sacrifice his career and damage the lives of his children by bringing Walt down.

If Hank finds out Walt's cancer is back, that could likely further motivate Hank to let it go.

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Did anyone else notice that at some point in the episode (can't remember the exact time, but the Friday Night LIghts guy was in the scene with Walt), the camera seemed to focus on a poster on the wall? The poster wasn't on the screen very long, but it seemed weird that they showed it for as long as they did because noone else was in the screen when it was shown.

It was at the end of a scene. I went back to see if I could make out what was on the poster, and it was a poster of different species of flies. After seeing the poster, I don't think it had much to do with anything.

The only possible thing I could take away from it (it probably doesn't mean anything) was that one of the species was a "screw fly" or something like that. There have been alot of theories about how the Friday Night Lights guy may be undercover from a different meth team, so thought this may have foreshadowed him screwing Walter over.

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As mentioned previously, I think the fly scene showed a bit of foreshadowing of Walt’s keen attention to detail AND deliberate lack of attention at the same time. The fact that Walt saw the fly buzzing around the room, but did not try to kill it (as he did in the previous episode) was analogous to Walt seeing the book from G.B. in the bathroom, but failed to get rid of it. I think the detailed anatomy of the fly on the wall poster was there to help drive home that point. Walt’s ego drove him to leave a small, but important detail such as the book out in the open. Same with the fly, IMO.

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Walt became a badass when he left Tuco's place for the first time with $50,000 and a bag of fulminated mercury.

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If Walt really wanted out, all he would have to do is offer to train someone in the Phoenix crew for a price.

Not a good idea. As soon as they don't need him, he's dead.

It's a totally different situation with the fly. Fly one was in the lab. Fly 2 was in the "office" where there was no cooking going on.

Why would they do that? They were willing to buy the chemical from them to put them out of business. If they can produce on their own, that pretty much guarantees that Walt will retire since he just gave his recipe to his competition. What do they have to fear from him anymore?

In an odd way, this episode felt like redemption for Walt. After going as black as possible, he made a ton of money. Skylar shows him what he's done. He's confronted with his success.

Then he goes for a CAT scan. He sees the towel dispenser he punched when he got his diagnosis. He's now confronted with why he went after the meth.

Instead of going blacker, Walt turned around. He went to his family and quit. He went to see Jesse and do what was right and paid him. Jesse and Skylar were as surprised as the audience. They mirror our view of Walt. So much so that Jesse thought Walt had brought him a bomb. But Walt was taking care of family.

Now, just when Walt turns back, the writers are going to push him to an ultimate choice. He's got to kill Hank, or he's got to run and give up everything fire his family. Don't forget that Walt now has Mike's go bag or has seen to setting one up on his own. And Skylar knows where the money is. Don't forget that Skylar said she wants her kids back and her life back. Not Walt.

I predict Hank tips him off and Walt runs, leaving Skylar and the kids set up. His distribution connections/Fring's connections come for Walt and get his family. Walt and Hank go to war against them to save the kids/Skylar.

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How would he collect money? He would still need Skylar to launder it. Unless they are sitting on that stack and will slowly launder it for a couple of years....but that means Walt will need to sneak in and add rolls as they launder.

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He could always sell his method to a competitor or get back in the meth biz when the money dries up.

Have any of ya'll ever watched tv before? Walt will weasel his way out of Hank finding the book. He'll make some excuse about finding it at a garage sale, etc...It was just a bomb to get folks like us talking about something for 8 months. VG is a great created but he's not the best. He knows how to play the tv game as good as the rest of them.
What if Walt Jr. pops Walt in the head to end the series, *Spoiler* Omar Little style *End Spoiler* That would be dope!
Jesse's scene was my favorite. He is totally scared sh***less of Walt. He hides his bong because he doesn't want anything to set Walt off and possible get in a fist-a-cuffs that ends in one of their deaths.

Walt wants out but Hank knowing that Walt is dying turns dirty and gets paid.

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How would he collect money? He would still need Skylar to launder it. Unless they are sitting on that stack and will slowly launder it for a couple of years....but that means Walt will need to sneak in and add rolls as they launder.

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Never said he would collect money...maybe he is satisfied with simply having his empire continue through his protege.

@Btron...there is no way he weasels his way out of this...at least not convincing Hank it isn't a gift from Gale. Maybe he weasels his way out of the consequences somehow, but Hank won't buy it the way you're putting it.

I guess there is one way he gets out of it and that is if the book is actually from Gretchen and not Gale. She would have to corroborate too. That would be REALLY, REALLY far fetched (and disappointing) though.

Does anyone remember Gale giving the book to Walt? I don't think they showed this happen.