B&E dude isnt his protege, he has known him less than 4 months

It'd be pretty easy to compare the hand writing between Gale and the book. However, even of he does this he has to have a reason to get it admitted.

Can he use this book as evidence? I don't know.

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It's a totally different situation with the fly. Fly one was in the lab. Fly 2 was in the "Exterminators office" where there was no cooking going on.

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FIFY. Think there was meant to be a little bit of irony there?

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B&E dude isnt his protege, he has known him less than 4 months

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Regardless of how long they've know each other, Walt doesn't have another choice. If Todd learned the cook, that's all Walt has...especially if his MRI went the wrong way. Not ideal, but what else is there to do? Todd's uncle has plenty of muscle to keep him safe.

This is fun isn't it Bill. Guess it's all we have until TWD :-)

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That bumbling fool of a businessman just made a cool 20 million or so in 3 or 4 months.

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And it's sitting in a storage locker, unlaundered and effectively unusable. And, he has done so many things wrong and foolish that it will not be long before it all comes crashing down.

I can't decide if I think Walt's cancer is back or not. My first impression while watching the show was that it was back. When in the bathroom, he saw where he made the dent last time. I took his reaction to be "giving up" in a way and suggesting that he did not have the fight left in him that he did back then. Him quitting the meth business could have been because he realizes he only has a short time left to live, so any empire he builds in the meantime is completely useless. He has already made more than enough money for his family, so he wants to spend the last part of his life with Skylar not completely hating him and without her taking the kids away from her. Obviously, if this is the case, there will still be plenty of action with Walt v. Hank and Walt v. Meth dealers the next 8 episodes.

Obviously, you could take his actions to mean the exact opposite of the above...that's what makes this show so good.

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owever, even of he does this he has to have a reason to get it admitted.

Can he use this book as evidence? I don't know.

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It has no value of evidence anyways...no laws against GBs sending books to WWs. So yes, he will get a handwriting analysis just to confirm his suspicions, but now he knows who he is chasing. The next step is building a case, based on evidence, they will need to fill in the holes of Walt's life for the last year or so, or at least everything that has happened since Fring.

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Walt turned around. He went to his family and quit.

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There is no way he quit. He told Skylar he quit but there is no way he actually did. The Phoenix guys would want the remaining methylmene plus cash plus the recipe, then they would kill Walt.

I also don't get how some of you see Hank flipping. The guy has given no indication of ever weakening from being supercop. Plus once he associates Walt solidly with the blue, which includes Hank almost losing his life remember, i don't see him giving Walt any sympathy, let alone turning and joining his gang

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This is fun isn't it Bill. Guess it's all we have until TWD :-)

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We are liek a month away. Have you seen the commercials of them in the dark hallways? OMG! It will be greatness.

The money may be unlaundered, but is it unusable? If Walt just up and left to another country and put all the money into an offshore account, and changed his identity, wouldn't that money become usable?

Not saying it will happen, but just trying to figure out if that money is in fact useless if Walt decides to hightail it out of ABQ.

That is an impossible amount of money to launder. No way to get it to offshore accounts.

You know how they had mike setting up the drop box for mike's granddaughter? Possible that contract on the storage unit is in one of the kids names as the remainder? Walt and Skylar die, and Junior or the baby inherit millions?

20 years of laundering will work...especially when 15 years from now $1M is only like worth $700K

I think Skylar will leave with the kids and the money. She is already acting independently by putting it in a storage locker. And she already gave a bunch to her sex-boss. So its not a big leap to think she will steal it.

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This is fun isn't it Bill. Guess it's all we have until TWD :-)

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We are liek a month away. Have you seen the commercials of them in the dark hallways? OMG! It will be greatness.

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You bet I've seen them! I have always enjoyed it, but I think it's really coming into its wheel house this season.

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I mean practically for a quick getaway. Only option would be to ship the money via madrigal our of the country. Banks make IRS statements on all deposits over 10k. Hence the businesses, but they can't suddenly deposit tens of millions on behalf of the car wash. Really nothing top do with it unless you plan to stick around for a while. Unless you ship it

Walt is in the empire business. No way he's done cooking no matter what he tells Skylar.

wait for it

Also, I don't think the show would just skip right over it if Walt were really 'out'. He's got a lot of people on his payroll, and I think it would pretty tricky to get out, it's not like he can just 'stop' without upsetting lots of people. IMO, this idea that he made a presto chango reverse of his monster hood, given how deliberate this show has always been about character development, just doesn't jibe. If he has really had a change of heart over this course of half an episode after we've watched 4.5 seasons of his steady decline into moral depravity, would be incredibly disappointing.

ummm... no more episodes until summer of NEXT YEAR????!!?

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If he has really had a change of heart over this course of half an episode after we've watched 4.5 seasons of his steady decline into moral depravity, would be incredibly disappointing

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Well, we have 8 episodes left that will cover roughly the same time span as the first 4.5 seasons. So we necessarily won't see as much slow and steady development. Things are going to happen much faster. With that in mind, seeing those millions and millions of dollars stacked up might have been the wake-up call that makes Walt realize it's pointless to continue. Unlike the beginning of this season, he actually has reached "an acceptable stopping point." So he decides to settle up with Jesse and do right by his family.

On the other hand, he could've been faking his shock at the sight of the money. He might just be lying to Skyler so she'll let the kids come home. Though, this doesn't really explain why he finally gave Jesse his share.

There have always been two ways this show could end:

1. Walt continues a miserable descent. We grow more and more disgusted by his recklessness, his hypocrisy, and his hubris. Ultimately we all cheer his demise.

2. Walt's descent stops just short of the point of no return. Something makes him "snap out of it," and he decides to start doing what's right, or at least the least evil option given his predicaments. He still likely goes down, but more like the flawed protagonist we pulled for in seasons 1 and 2.

I just don't think it's out of the question that the final episode of this half-season was the turning point in scenario #2. As many of you have pointed out, getting out won't be easy. Hell, getting out might be just as treacherous as Walt's journey to the top has been. But getting out (or dying trying) is exactly what we have to see for scenario #2.

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Walt is in the empire business. No way he's done cooking no matter what he tells Skylar.

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I think he is really out. Why has he been doing all of this? Inertia. Same reason they kept driving the crappy RV when they didn't have to. Inertia. Something clicked during his talk with Jesse. seeing the pile of money was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

I really think the easy way out is Walt goes down or goes informant. I would like to see them manage to turn Walt into the pure good guy and somehow make Hank go nuts and become the bad guy.

updating Quad's gif..

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Also, I don't think the show would just skip right over it if Walt were really 'out'. He's got a lot of people on his payroll, and I think it would pretty tricky to get out, it's not like he can just 'stop' without upsetting lots of people.

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See, I disagree here. I think that in and of itself is why Walt is redeemable to some of us in that he's not really a gangster.

I think that's kind of been the story since it began. Remember this interchange from the pilot:

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Jesse: Some straight like you, giant stick up his ass, age what - 60? He's just gonna break bad?
Walter: I'm 50.
Jesse: It's weird is all, okay? It doesn't compute. Listen, if you've gone crazy or something...I mean, if you've...if you've gone crazy or depressed, I'm just saying...that's something I need to know about. Okay? I mean, that affects me.
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Walter: I am awake.

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We all agree that the show is not that Walt is a bad guy so much as he is a guy that is becoming bad. I think that's true even as of the summer finale. We can all talk about the things that he's done, but it's not until he has no conscience about them that he's actually become bad. Even in these last two episodes, he's still shown conscience. He was remorseful that he killed Mike, and he made it a point to pay Jesse back. A bad guy does neither. So while some folks have decided that Walt has broke bad already, I still think he's in the process of becoming irredeemable.

Back to what I quoted, because Walt is still playing gangster, he probably hasn't thought about how hard it will be for him to get out. He probably thinks he trained Jesse Jr. to run the show. But in two episodes when Jesse Jr. ruins a batch and one of the groups decides to kill him and get Walt back in the game, Walt will be surprised because he will think they were wanting to walk away from the blue anyway.

So, despite of all that Walt's done, I'm not convinced he's beyond saving. I don't think we'll know that until the last episode of the series.

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Was he? He was milling over it down by the arroyo next to Mike, to the point where you just knew he was going to apologize, but he just said "i could just get the names from Lydia"...almost in an "aww shucks i forgot my keys but i just remembered i have a spare" manner.

I am in the camp that thinks he is getting out of the business though. He just seemed very sincere and almost appeared to tear up when telling Skyler.

Yeah, I think the inertia conversation was very telling, and that Walt is working on a real plan to get himself out vs. blowing smoke up Skylar's ass. That said, I think the final 8 episodes will involve (1) Walt not being able to walk away so easily (family ends up in harms way) (2) Hank putting the pieces together and (3) Walt dealing with the return of the cancer. I'm not sure where Hank will fall though. He's supercop but he also has a soft spot when it comes to the family, so while I don't expect him to turn dirty, I could see him trying to bring down as much of the meth empire as possible (be it Madrigal, Arizona, etc) while trying to spare Walt. Definitely some great scenes with those two lie ahead. Such a huge betrayal right under his nose that he'll be confronting Walt over, but at the same time, his career ends and his family is rocked if he takes Walt down.

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Was he? He was milling over it down by the arroyo next to Mike, to the point where you just knew he was going to apologize, but he just said "i could just get the names from Lydia"...almost in an "aww shucks i forgot my keys but i just remembered i have a spare" manner.

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I took that as an ego "I can't apologize to Mike" moment, but as an example of his remorse none the less. The look on his face tells it all, including the way he looked immediately after he shot Mike.

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Back to what I quoted, because Walt is still playing gangster, he probably hasn't thought about how hard it will be for him to get out.

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When he was flipping out in the crawl space because his whole family was going to die, I think he was thinking about how hard it was for him.

I do think he was "remorseful" for killing Mike, although driven by the fact he realized it was unnecessary vs. feeling bad about killing itself.

Water cooler discussion at work: what is the body count up to since Walt broke bad?

Airliner included?

167?

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When he was flipping out in the crawl space because his whole family was going to die, I think he was thinking about how hard it was for him.

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The best single scene in the series to me.

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Water cooler discussion at work: what is the body count up to since Walt broke bad?

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I don't count the airline:
-Crazy Eight and cousin: 2
-Tuco and his two goons: 5
-White boy slinger: 6
-The kid: 7
-2 Drug dealers: 9
-Meth Head with the safe: 10
-Gus, Hector, and goon: 13
-Goons at the car wash: 15
-Chang and goon: 17
-Dirt bike kid: 18
-Mike: 19
-Mike's guys: 29

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-Jane: 30
-The cousins: 32
-Gale (duh): 33

Who'd I miss??

Not counting the nacro deaths and the folks the cousins killed.