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Here's the thing though, if he hadn't gone bad, Jane still would've died. She would've still choked on that vomit, the father would've gone into depression, and the plane would've crashed.

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She never would have met Jesse & never would have fallen off the wagon in order to OD.

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She never would have met Jesse & never would have fallen off the wagon in order to OD.

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Not only that, but more directly, he was shaking Jesse to wake him up and that caused her to roll over onto her back. I remember her telling him they needed to sleep on their sides, so if it weren't for Walt she just would have puked all over Jesse.

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Bingo, she wasn't on her back when Walt arrived.

Although it is these lines of discussion that make me wish I had a solid ignore function.

I hate myself for just now finding this thread.

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It wasnt his vomit, the problem is you can't really dust for vomit.

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A+

There are very few opportunities in life where the setup actually has someone chocking on vomit, the delivery of the Spinal Tap line must be introduced because you seldom get the opportunity to have someone die from vomit again.

http://www.bartleby.com/142/180.html

If I remember correctly from the episode where Jane died, she had taken precautions should she start vomiting in her sleep, by sleeping on her side against Jesse. When Walt barged in he moved Jane onto her back off of Jesse in an attempt to wake Jesse up. That is when she started vomiting, thus if Walt would have never shown up, she just would have vomited on Jesse's back and not choked on it.
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[This message has been edited by theSCHW4B (edited 9/5/2012 4:05p).]

Yeah, forgot about that detail. So it's settled, Walt directly killed Jane.

Fine. Edited.

DIRECT:
-Crazy Eight and cousin: 2
-Tuco: 3
-White boy slinger: 4
-2 Drug dealers: 6
-Gus, Hector, and goon: 9
-Goons at the LAB POST GUS: 11
-Dirt bike kid: 12
-Mike: 13
-Mike's guys: 23
-Gale: 24
-Jane: 25

INDIRECT:
-Tuco's two goons: 2
-Meth Head with the safe: 3
-Chang and goon: 5
-The cousins: 7
-Dealer kid: 8
-Shoot out at the Lab: 9
-Airline: (call it 150) 159
-Nacros: (call it 15) 174
-Juan Bolsa: 175

So, 25 direct, 9 directly indirect (no planes or nacros), and 175 total indirect (including planes and nacros).

Oh yeah, Jane's dad isn't dead, so he's off the list.


[This message has been edited by Ol Jock 99 (edited 9/5/2012 4:35p).]

SIAP but two things-

the painting Walt was staring at when he met with Todd's uncle was the same painting in his hospital room (from season 1 or 2.)

I originally assumed he punched the paper towel dispenser because he found out the cancer was back. But...In season 2, Walt visits the doc, finds out cancer's in remission, washes his hands, then punches it in anger. It still hadn't been replaced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGSEYQIWak&feature=related

Just for visual proof, watch at 1:00... Walt shakes Jesse and Jane rolls onto her back. Without Walt being there she would've just puked on Jesse.

If you are going to argue indirect deaths,
The Director of Chicken Nugget Sauces at Madrigal wouldn't have zapped himself.

Yeah, and Mike killed a bunch of narcos at Changs...

Victor. The old lady, the cop, and the illegal aliens in the back of the truck that the twins killed. Ted is still alive, right?

And Gus' poison attack on Don Eladio and the other cartels would've never happened without him having his own master meth chef.

The only people who've been killed that would've died anyway are Tortuga and the agents killed by the bomb hidden under his head. The guys who tried to raid the Los Pollos delivery truck but were killed by Mike in the process had nothing to do with Walt either.

Ok, but the body count is offset by one: Holly. Circle of life.

How about off-screen deaths and suffering caused by the meth Walt cooks? Impossible to give it a precise figure, but definitely something Walt had a direct hand in.

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You know how they had mike setting up the drop box for mike's granddaughter? Possible that contract on the storage unit is in one of the kids names as the remainder? Walt and Skylar die, and Junior or the baby inherit millions?

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Or it'd be the greatest episode of Storage Wars ever.

That's hilarious, the thought of Storage Wars crossed my mind as soon as I saw her open it up.





YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!!

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That's hilarious, the thought of Storage Wars crossed my mind as soon as I saw her open it up.

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Ha! I knew I couldn't have been the only one. Though I assume the owners of the storage facility would want to go ahead and just hold onto that unit....

But they wouldn't know what's in the unit.

Today's water cooler question:

So what do you do with an estimated $20M of drug money in a storage unit?

Stuff bills in your pockets and use as walking around money for the next 200 years?

Fake that you won the lottery?

Have a garage sale and say you made it on baby clothes?

Claim you won it in Vegas?

Or my favorite - A Ugandan charity sent you an email and then wired the money to you?

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The only people who've been killed that would've died anyway are Tortuga and the agents killed by the bomb hidden under his head. The guys who tried to raid the Los Pollos delivery truck but were killed by Mike in the process had nothing to do with Walt either.

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I wouldn't say it had nothing to do with Walt...they wouldn't be hitting the trucks if the friction between Gus and the cartel didn't exist. Those two dudes died inside the Los Pollos trucks too.

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So what do you do with an estimated $20M of drug money in a storage unit?

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Strip clubs/hookers/blow every night for the rest of my life.

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So what do you do with an estimated $20M of drug money in a storage unit?

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Hire man to kill distant, unsupportive wife. Leave country with $19,950,000.

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Today's water cooler question:

So what do you do with an estimated $20M of drug money in a storage unit?

Stuff bills in your pockets and use as walking around money for the next 200 years?

Fake that you won the lottery?

Have a garage sale and say you made it on baby clothes?

Claim you won it in Vegas?

Or my favorite - A Ugandan charity sent you an email and then wired the money to you?

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You launder the **** out of the car wash and use legal means to open a **** ton more. And launder launder launder.

Open a chain of restaurants called Heisenburgers. They will have a meth lab theme, and drinks will be served in chemical flasks.

Interview with Gilligan about the last season, some good revelations and behind the scenes things here.
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-on-poetry-books-time-jumps-and-the-end-for-walter-white
Kaylee did lose her money from Mike.
History of Gale giving Walt the book.
Talking time jumps.
Hank's revelation, and more.

Start the Shraderbrau Beer Co.

Two best shows in recent years? Yes, yes.

A lot of speculation going around that Hank will break bad. He has to deal with the fact that he has been searching for a family member which he couldnt detect prior to this. He has to explain where the money for his physical therapy came from. His career is over if he pursues Walt.

^Would she? I thought she had gotten off the "heavy stuff" before she met Jesse? Never would have met Jesse if he hadn't gotten in with Walt...

^ oh the dreaded 'reference to comment you think is last one, but is really at the bottom of the previous page' post.

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That's some good detective work there Professor.