You really need someone to tell you what was hidden in the wall?

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The clothes that Skylar and Walt were wearing at the car wash made me laugh - they were dressed up like all of the people attending the birthday party at Gretchens.

Walt and Skylar made fun of the tan/beige colors... and now they are wearing them.

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HE MUST HAVE SECRETLY KILLED THE GRETCHENS!




....but seriously, if the whole taking on the traits of the people he kills is true, what did he take from Mike? or Emilio? or the dealers he kills for Jesse? or Gabe (I mean if we're including Gus as his kill, then I'd say Gabe is his kill, as well).

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And Walt never actually saw Gus do the towel toilet thing, so I find it as a bit of a stretch, also considering how long after the kill this takes place as opposed to the Krazy 8 parallel. I won't rule it out, but this taking place for only 2 out of his total of like 7 kills, and not doing it for his biggest kill, Mike (the only one that wasn't done out of necessity), I'm going to doubt the theory for now.

I don't think it's necessarily a conscious mimicking by Walt, just a nod from the writers.

Anyone else feel there was another point in the show where the writers had Walt channeling Gus? When Lydia shows up at the car wash in her frazzled state, and Walt keeps his stoic superficial business facade on- just as Gus did when Walt would show up to see Gus at Pollos Hermanos. Not implying any foreshadowing, just an interesting parallel

Could be, but how else would you expect one to act at a front operation?

I have no idea what BennyBlanco was trying to say.

I think it was a cry for help, Phi.

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I have no idea what BennyBlanco was trying to say.

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He's just a two dinensional creature trapped in our three dimensional world... Confused and afraid.

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Anyone else feel there was another point in the show where the writers had Walt channeling Gus? When Lydia shows up at the car wash in her frazzled state, and Walt keeps his stoic superficial business facade on- just as Gus did when Walt would show up to see Gus at Pollos Hermanos. Not implying any foreshadowing, just an interesting parallel

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Yes. And I think that was pointed out a few pages back.

Rewatched again last night and noticed when Walt walks into the delapitated house the only room he looks into on his way to the socket is Holly's. maybe I'm just seeing what I want to, but he looked sad.

Anyone else notice Hank Wearing the Delbert McClinton tshirt on the first day he is starting his research on the case? I don't remember any of the main characters wearing print tshirts, expect Jesse. Wonder if there are any clues there.

Does Kenny Rogers count?

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Don't get me started on Rubicon.

I still think me and the other 12 viewers deserved another season or 2. Yes it was slow but that show was fantastic IMO

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I agree. Sucks it got canned after one season.

Complete and T Bow.

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Does Kenny Rogers count?

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Yeah. I thought about that after posting...maybe "The Gambler"??

Ok, with the whole debacle going on with the iTunes store and the season 5 pass not counting for the final episodes, I have to ask - is there any actual advantage to promoting the show as a split season, as opposed to two separate seasons? If they went to the trouble of releasing them separately on DVD and online stores, why even bother calling it 5a and 5b? Just call it 5 and 6. Then the advertising for the last season would've been much better. "The Final Season" just sounds better than "The Final Episodes".

Thoughts?

So I have a busy Monday, and only 11 pages of this thread to read to catch up on a Tuesday?

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Badger's star trek episode is a foreshadow of how it will end.

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I still think someone (Jess, Hank, Skyler, Todd and his family) betrays Walt and something big goes down. He fakes his own death, then uses a fake ID for a while. He comes back with a beard, dyed hair, and different glasses as a disguise. Also with a machine gun to get the ricin for revenge against the betrayer(s). The Star Trek discussion about the teleporter killing you and bring you back to life somewhere else foreshadowed this.
Ricin is a subtle killer, so it makes sense that would be for someone close to him, so Hank or Skyler. If his kids are alive after the big something, then I think Skyler and Marie are safe. If the kids are dead, then no one is safe.
The machine gun isn't subtle, so that is meant for someone less untouchable such as Jesse or Todd and his family.
Based on what Gilligan said on Talking Bad that "Lydia warning him about putting her and the other players in a box" will come into play. That implies that Todd and his family are going to want Walt to cook for them, and we've already seen what they are capable of to get what they want.

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Ok, with the whole debacle going on with the iTunes store and the season 5 pass not counting for the final episodes, I have to ask - is there any actual advantage to promoting the show as a split season, as opposed to two separate seasons? If they went to the trouble of releasing them separately on DVD and online stores, why even bother calling it 5a and 5b? Just call it 5 and 6. Then the advertising for the last season would've been much better. "The Final Season" just sounds better than "The Final Episodes".

Thoughts?

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Ratings for the premiere up 102% from last season. 5.9 million viewers, up from 2.93 last year. Amazing.

Just goes to show how freaking ridiculous the word of mouth is for this show. Has any show ever grown an audience so much, especially so far into the show?

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Because it drives up hype and gives more time for promotion. I expect this to become more common and that the last season of Mad Men will be split too.

Finally got around to watching it last night. Awesome episode.

One more post...
At first I wanted more out of the Hank/Walt confrontation. Then I realized while brushing my teeth for bed that the conversation was between Hank and Walt with a bit of Heisenberg coming out at the end with the tread lightly line. I then got more appreciation for that scene. I guess I originally wanted more Heisenberg there. But I expect it's not the last Hank/Walt/Heisenberg scene we'll see.

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Because it drives up hype and gives more time for promotion. I expect this to become more common and that the last season of Mad Men will be split too.

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You misunderstood. I'm not saying don't break up the episodes. I'm saying market it as two separate seasons.

Quad, I don't think the Walt/Hank scene could've been played any more perfectly by Walt. He didn't confess to anything, but made it clear he wasn't going to go down. The "tread lightly" line was almost spoken by both Walt and Heisenberg, one saying "you don't know what you're talking about", and the other saying "you better not **** with me".

Surprised I haven't seen it mentioned (unless I missed it), but Mythbusters did a Breaking Bad episode last night that was pretty great.

They had Vince Gilligan and Aaron Paul on, and tested how hydrofluoric acid could have melted the tub through Jesse's ceiling and whether Walt could've blown up Tuco's office with mercury fulminate and survived (and if it explodes on impact).

Very worth the watch.

Two of us mentioned it yesterday.

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Surprised I haven't seen it mentioned (unless I missed it), but Mythbusters did a Breaking Bad episode last night that was pretty great.

They had Vince Gilligan and Aaron Paul on, and tested how hydrofluoric acid could have melted the tub through Jesse's ceiling and whether Walt could've blown up Tuco's office with mercury fulminate and survived (and if it explodes on impact).

Very worth the watch.

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Did it explode impact? That's the only part I missed.

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Two of us mentioned it yesterday.

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Didn't go back early enough, my bad.

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It didn't explode on impact, they had to rig it with a charge to get it to go off. Pretty impressive result after a bit of creative license though.

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Who else is refusing to watch low winter sun on general principle after seeing nothing but nonstop? AMC did that 5hit with that God awful small town tranny cop thing.

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THIS!!!

I keep saying to myself when a trailer for it appears:

"Just stop AMC!!! this Low Winter Sun thing is just not going to happen!"

I hate haviong to wait. I watched seasons 1-5A on netflix and this having to wait crap is not going to work for me.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/83966/breaking-bad-season-5-episode-9-recap-the-endgame-begins-with-blood-money

This is a pretty great recap with my favorite line about the episode so far:

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How cocky and crazy was it for Walt even to show up at Hank's? And what level of insanity did it reach in both the writers' room and in Walt's mind to have him stop, turn, and reveal the GPS transmitter in his pocket? Forget the delicate dance of cat and mouse a generation of TV built on coy delay had prepped us to expect. Here, the cat punched the mouse in the nose and called him a monster. The mouse then stood up, casually brushed himself off, and transformed into Satan.

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Ok, with the whole debacle going on with the iTunes store and the season 5 pass not counting for the final episodes, I have to ask - is there any actual advantage to promoting the show as a split season, as opposed to two separate seasons? If they went to the trouble of releasing them separately on DVD and online stores, why even bother calling it 5a and 5b? Just call it 5 and 6. Then the advertising for the last season would've been much better. "The Final Season" just sounds better than "The Final Episodes".

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there are contractual issues with calling it a separate seasons. i dont know what they are but gilligan brought up lawyers in reference to the split.

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Anyone else feel there was another point in the show where the writers had Walt channeling Gus? When Lydia shows up at the car wash in her frazzled state, and Walt keeps his stoic superficial business facade on- just as Gus did when Walt would show up to see Gus at Pollos Hermanos. Not implying any foreshadowing, just an interesting parallel

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i thought it was so strong as to be obvious to everyone.

Awesome write-up

Spock: Walt, science officer
Kirk: Jesse, likeable, charismatic, moral
Chekhov: Skylar, the driver of the series, gave Walt cancer, thinks she can out-smart Spock, only to be killed by her own devices.

Chekhov is clearly tied to the ricin. In Badger's story he gets eaten from the inside out, just like a poison would do. And it is literally even Chekhov's Ricin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov's_gun

I think Skyler will die, but I think she'll go full Heisenbergette before the end.

I think people are reading waaaaaaaay too much into Badger's story.